Yup we did. That we did. Indeedy deedy do.

Stop raging on the towel heads you animals!

http://www.cruisemates.com/images/Te...el-Animals.jpg

Excuse me? The actions of this Administration in removing tyrants and sponsoring democracy to replace tyranny cannot be regarded as stupid by anyone who isn't a fascist sympathizer. I have no fascist sympathies whatsoever, thus I support nondemocracies' destruction. Ladies and gentlemen, where but from nondemocracies do the world's troubles come from? We democracies end up obliged to clean up the mess, lest an infection of the global body politic result.

Anyone of sense would do likewise. Others will pretend to me their fascistic, undemocratic sympathies are somehow the road of virtue, but their pretenses are hollow, rotten, pustulent, and thrice foredoomed. Support the Iraq war or be a fascist idiot -- or a fascists' buttmonkey. These are the real choices. Support any war against a nondemocracy, provided the war is aimed at its removal, which is exactly the case in both the Iraqi and Afghan theaters of war, and you are really an apostle of democracy.

I note a certain reluctance to address this point on DanaC's part. Anyone else reluctant?

I think you need to clarify how you define a successful state UG.

Democratic social organization, prosperity, large middle class, and above all the greatest degree of liberty consistent with ordered life... the United States or Australia are by no means the worst examples to resemble.

That should clear it up.

I don't know of any arab nations which would resemble Australian lifestyle, and I suspect not US either.

I don't happen to agree with your definition though. In fact, I'm not sure that I believe there are any truly successful states. Every state on the planet has its own set of issues and problems. I believe that your particular perspective of those problems can cause you to have a particularly warped view of whether or not a state is successful or not.

Are you announcing a towlie-ban?





Ok I stole that from Southpark

*snort* Gimme a break.

No I shall not. Either kill undemocracy and end its evils and oppressions, or get the fuck off my Earth for being lacking in good qualities. Sounds binary of me, to be sure, but I accept a continuum in politics -- continua are the essence of politics anyway. Still, the good men uproot evils, and the bad men just leave them to thrive. Where do you stand?

Honest to Pete, Dar, I hold you to a standard worth living by, and you object?? WTF, son?

Arrogant? Or merely pompous?

You want to know where I stand?

I stand with reason and rationality. I stand with honesty and fair play.

I believe that as individuals and as a country, we should treat others as we would like to be treated. I believe that diplomacy should be exercised to the furthest degree before starting a war. I believe that wars should not be started on a single piece of evidence.

I believe that the single piece of evidence for WMD was just a convenient excuse for W. to show up his dad. I believe the Iraqi war was a lame-brained mistake, just as I did before we sent a single troop over. I believe that tyranny had nothing to do with our invasion of Iraq.

I believe that the US is a great country, but it won't stay great if its citizens do not speak up when their country has gone wrong.

And I believe you have wandered into la-la land and I do not care to go. You have drunk your own kool-aid and have begun to believe your own propaganda.

Peddle your hallucinations elsewhere.

lol served!

I am only appalled at the use of the unword, undemocracy. It hurts......:)

I wonder what happened to UG. He's acting bent. Ug cool it!! Jesus...

unword!...lol. Oh I like that. I do. That's brilliant.