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TheMercenary 06-17-2008 10:53 PM

Nor has he provided support for this statement:

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Originally Posted by tw
TheMercenary lied about his service record.

DanaC 06-18-2008 06:00 AM

I think it's far too complex to assign blame to any one component of the problem. Personally, I think the central problem is that we have become culturally and economically dependant upon a substance which is geographically limited at its source. If there were oilfields in every country then we wouldn't have this problem :P This of course is the beauty of many of the alternative fuels: windpower is everywhere as is solar energy. Much as I'd like to blame GWB, I think that would be a tad unfair.

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Then again, Ken Livingstone was responsible for London's crime rate, pollution, the overspend on the 2012 Olympics and Wagon Wheels getting smaller, so it might have been his fault too.
Hah! So it was Boris! Bastard!


For Sundae: don't know if you caught the Headcases series, but their boris Johnson is wonderful.



Sorry for the immense drift peeps, I'm done, you can go back to your intelligent and meaningful discussion :)

tw 06-18-2008 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by TheMercenary (Post 463221)
Nor has he provided support for this statement:

I don't have to. Remember, I am posting just like TheMercenary. However TheMercenary did lie about his service record which is why he does not defend himself. Lying to attack others is normal for TheMercenary who will not defend his military service claims posted many years ago.

Flint 06-18-2008 09:27 AM

Wow!

glatt 06-18-2008 09:29 AM

What are you doing, tw?

Flint 06-18-2008 09:33 AM

He's not doing anything.

GLATT is doing something, which is why he doesn't not deny that he isn't.

elSicomoro 06-18-2008 09:35 AM

Sorry...I just woke up...could someone get me a cup of coffee? I feel like this thread has become some sort of acid trip...that, or it had a stroke.

tw 06-18-2008 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by sycamore (Post 463216)
You have provided no support for this statement.

Sycamore again posts irrelevant numbers because he did not grasp what was posted.

GM developed a 70 Hp/liter engine in the early 1970s. Honda, et al developed their 70 Hp/liter engines about 1992. 30 years later and 15 years after everyone else sells 70 Hp/liter engines, GM still does not sell 70 Hp/liter engines in all vehicles. Sycamore posts 1988 Honda numbers to prove that engine did not exist after 1992? That is proof? Sycamore - read numbers? 1992 is after 1988. Get in the game.

GM products, 13+ years after developing a the 70 HP/liter engine, had 10% LOWER performance, lower gas mileage, higher pollution, more interior noise, higher failure rates, higher production costs, etc. Sycamore also forgot to post the standard number for most 1988 GM products - only 52 Hp/liter - 17% less performance. No wonder GM would teeter on bankruptcy in 1991. Numbers before 1992 demonstrate GM products were worse even before 70 Hp/liter became the world standard. Sycamore – how do I make this any simpler?

I have probably confused Sycamore by claiming 1988 and 1992 are different years. Nine numbers and two paragraphs. Sycamore foolishly praised GM's 2008 J-car that is finally doing mid-1990 gas mileage numbers. GM's J-car was renamed after a long history of bad products. The Vega, Sunbird, Cavalier, and Cadillac Cimarron all were the same J-car platform. Cobalt is a J-car now renamed. Putting lipstick on a pig does not make a thoroughbred.

No wonder GM stock is now worth less today than in 1982. GM stifled technology for 30 years. GM opposed every higher mileage standards. It's still the J-car doing today what the world was doing 10 years ago. Sycamore again forgot to read (grasp) numbers before posting.

Of course, TheMercenary or UG would then call Sycamore a dumb fuck because he acted as one - buying and praising a GM product that is 10 years obsolete. But that is what they do - attack others.

Flint 06-18-2008 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by tw (Post 463341)
Of course, TheMercenary or UG would then call Sycamore a dumb fuck because he acted as one - buying and praising a GM product that is 10 years obsolete. But that is what they do - attack others.

Goddamnit, Merc and UG are bashing sycamore now!

UT, will you not intervene in the name of all that is decent?

TheMercenary 06-18-2008 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by tw (Post 463341)
Of course, TheMercenary or UG would then call Sycamore a dumb fuck because he acted as one - buying and praising a GM product that is 10 years obsolete.

Prove that claim tw. Where did I bash Sycamore?

Oh, and while you are at it, prove this one:


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Originally Posted by tw
TheMercenary lied about his service record.

Flint 06-18-2008 12:01 PM

He didn't not say that you wouldn't have not already said it, PAST TENSE--pay attention! But that's not the style of the new Cellar. I guess you didn't not learn that in school.

HungLikeJesus 06-18-2008 12:21 PM

See what happens when you use words like "blame" in the thread title?

lookout123 06-18-2008 12:42 PM

Dear Cellar,

As posted previously in a number of threads by me and then further quoted by me in other threads, I have already covered all the information you are finally beginning to discuss now. If you were interested in facts and truth you would have listened and learned when facts were previously posted, but instead you insulted me for being intelligent enough to question those who do not answer and not being swayed by those who say "trust me". You dumb stupid poopoo heads then felt the need to respond with insults and name calling so now you must reap what you sow. Dics. Stinky rotten dics. With warts.

The question at hand which is before and is pressing at this current time in our future history is whether or not you have learned your lessons. The intelligent among you may have but I doubt you are intelligence. Cuz you're stupidz. And I'm smartz. MBA's think they're smartz but I'm smarterz. With only 7 minutes to spare mental midgets do nothing when prudent people would have responded more intelligently and done the correct and obvious thing becaue of reads sun tsu. Facts and strategies made apparents in Military Doctrines and other fun party tricks 101z tells us that scrambling jets immediately would have put bootz on the ground which would have served to force the misunderstood Arab Brethrenz back to the negotiating tablez quickly. So 2 then U shuld knowz by now that 70hp/L was always available from the earliest dayz and only neo-con conspiracies are to blame for our troubles. If theyz had just used diplomacies and given said engines to the Brethrenz then we not B fightin now. K?

Soz az I've now made abundantly clear uR stupidz fer not listenin B4. Check the footnotes. Speaking of footnotes - UT has major footfungases. Apparent this is Bcuz he has not provided proofz 2 da contrary. That iz da St8 of da cellar now bcuz that iz what da fungases want. No? Where is da proofz to da contrary?

Love,

Lookout

lookout123 06-18-2008 12:43 PM

You know guys, I think that TW really has been onto something here. Plummeting through the depths of insanity is actually kind of fun.

Flint 06-18-2008 01:35 PM

Shut up, dickhead--I'M POSTING LIKE LOOKOUT. Ha, thought you had me there.


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