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glatt 05-02-2008 01:22 PM

Interesting to see that antibiotic free chicken advertised. I just read in the paper today that Perdue successfully sued Tyson to prevent them from advertising the fact that Tyson doesn't routinely feed antibiotics to their chickens. Perdue argued that the public might interpret that as meaning that Perdue chicken is inferior.

Why not let the consumer decide if they want to eat chicken that is routinely fed antibiotics?

LabRat 05-02-2008 01:23 PM

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I ordered fajita steak with mild salsa. The fajita style just means you get to put green peppers and onions in it instead of beans. Except I wanted them both, so I asked for very little rice and add black beans. Still had more rice than I would have liked. I ended up scraping some out.

LabRat 05-02-2008 01:31 PM

Total bill, with pop and tax was $7.84.

My opionion, 3/5 stars. It was a good, huge burrito, but lacked flavor for being 'fajita' style. The peppers and onions needed red peppers, and were basically raw. The steak had heat, but again, not much *flavor.*

The covered outdoor seating area was nice. It was very clean and the condiment bar was well stocked, but we were there at 11:45, before the lunch rush. Silverware was plastic and it felt a little wasteful, considering they were so hung up about how 'healthy' their food was for you.

I prefer their competitors across the street, Panchero's. Better fajita mix, better mild salsa, and slightly cheaper too for the same amount of food. Plus they have a punch card so your 13th menu item is free.

LabRat 05-02-2008 01:42 PM

Oh, and one of the friends I was eating with said that while whether or not they are owned by McD's is under debate, she saw a McD's truck delivering food there a few weeks ago... There are no actual McDonald's downtown at all. :2cents:

elSicomoro 05-02-2008 02:59 PM

I used to work down the street from a Chipotle when I lived in DC in 2000. We didn't have any in Philly when I lived there, though UT and I ate at one when we visited a friend of ours down in DC in '02.

We have a handful here in the St. Louis area...April and I ate at one last night. Not bad, but not as good as usual.

A Moe's opened up near my apartment in Philly in late '04, I think. It wasn't bad...though their hottest salsa is a creeping son-of-a-bitch! I think we have one here in St. Louis, out in the western suburbs. Haven't eaten at one since moving back here.

glatt 05-02-2008 03:03 PM

Never been to a Chipotle's but that burrito looks just like what you get at Burrito Brothers in DC.

Urbane Guerrilla 05-02-2008 03:05 PM

The thing I most enjoy about a Moe's is just walking in, when they all shout out a big hello -- "Welcome to Moe's!!" Sort of an English take on a sushi-house's "Irrashaimasen!"

But the first Moe's around here didn't catch on -- opened and closed inside a year. Maybe better luck later; their food was certainly good enough.

Urbane Guerrilla 05-02-2008 03:10 PM

Labrat, speaking of quite reasonably tasty, let Friend One know she has a nice figure, and Friend Two nice hair, and she shouldn't worry any too hard -- if she's concerned -- about getting herself a wedding ring like One's. (Scrolled back and looked.)

Undertoad 05-02-2008 03:15 PM

Mister, don't you sneak in on elspode's territory. He's the one supposed to be making those remarks.

elSicomoro 05-02-2008 03:35 PM

Yep...he's the Town Oversexed Lech.

dar512 05-02-2008 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by glatt (Post 450524)
Interesting to see that antibiotic free chicken advertised. I just read in the paper today that Perdue successfully sued Tyson to prevent them from advertising the fact that Tyson doesn't routinely feed antibiotics to their chickens. Perdue argued that the public might interpret that as meaning that Perdue chicken is inferior.

Why not let the consumer decide if they want to eat chicken that is routinely fed antibiotics?

Not exactly. What Perdue claimed was that Tyson's chicken wasn't really antibiotic free - false advertising.

Sundae 05-03-2008 04:50 AM

Excellent photo essay, Lab - thank you.
Agree re plastic cutlery, what a shame. Write them a letter!

I didn't notice your friends' figures - I was checking out their tasty treats instead.

richlevy 05-03-2008 09:43 AM

The nearest one is about 30 minutes from me. A few months ago I was curious and used their online ordering to work up an order for the family with the idea that I would be in the area for a pickup. When it got past some awful price I tried to cancel the process. The options (extra chips, guacamole) do add up.

Moes and Red Sombrero are close for fake Mexican. El Gran Rodeo is more authentic and close by. Mexican Post is close by. It's not authentic but a little more upscale (nice sitdown place).

richlevy 05-03-2008 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by glatt (Post 450524)
Interesting to see that antibiotic free chicken advertised. I just read in the paper today that Perdue successfully sued Tyson to prevent them from advertising the fact that Tyson doesn't routinely feed antibiotics to their chickens. Perdue argued that the public might interpret that as meaning that Perdue chicken is inferior.

Why not let the consumer decide if they want to eat chicken that is routinely fed antibiotics?

I heard about this on NPR. The reason Tyson lost is that the ad was misleading, as was mentioned in the article. Tyson's ad depended on a narrow interpretation of 'antibiotic' and 'raised' (see below)

What's annoying is the the FTC didn't being the action, their competitors did.

Now my state of PA did ban certain advertising on hormones in milk cows because it made others 'look bad', not because it was deceptive:smack:. I can foresee a future trial in that decision with the state arguing that it has the right to stop a company from telling the truth. F***ing morons.

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Sanderson and Perdue initially based their legal challenge on Tyson's practice of feeding chickens ionophores, an antibiotic used only in animals raised for food. Sanderson and Perdue also use ionophores.
Then during trial in federal court in Baltimore, Tyson officials acknowledged they also inject eggs several days before they hatch with antibiotics that are approved for use in humans. Dave Hogberg, Tyson's senior vice president for consumer products, said it is a common industry practice.
Hogberg said injecting eggs with antibiotics did not undermine the "raised without antibiotic" label because the term "raised" is understood to cover the period that begins with hatching.

glatt 05-05-2008 08:42 AM

The interesting thing about the Tyson case was the astronomical increase in sales Tyson saw when they made their claim of raising chickens without antibiotics. It's clear what many consumers want. I'm surprised and disappointed the chicken producers don't give it to them for real.

On another note, there was a small beef supplier a couple years ago that tested 100% of its animals for mad cow disease and wanted to label their beef as Mad Cow free, but are not allowed to by the FDA (or USDA?) because it would make the rest of the beef suppliers who only test 0.1% of their animals look bad.


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