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Flint 02-26-2008 04:09 PM

We're just trying to have sex with you.

lookout123 02-26-2008 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by DanaC (Post 435245)
I wasn't kidding about that worldwide reputation. Everybody I have ever heard talk about visits stateside have commented on how freindly people were.

I think that might have something to do with the fact that no matter how much we bitch and moan, most americans are privileged to have a pretty ok life. well that, and American men have huge genitalia. It makes us happy, and our women even happier.

DanaC 02-26-2008 04:27 PM

*books a flight stateside*

TheMercenary 02-26-2008 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by DanaC (Post 435228)
Damn right it would ! :P And that would spoil America's worldwide reputation for friendly folksy welcomes.

I don't think that is an important fantasy that needs to be perpetuated.

TheMercenary 02-26-2008 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by freshnesschronic (Post 435179)
Hey, I was just wondering...do you know how your family got to America, Merc? Was it through the Bering Strait? Or by boat or something...and it had to be a legal immigration, cause god knows there was no such thing as illegal immigration at the turn of the 20th century!

I know they came her through a legal process via Boston for one side, and via the Mayflower on another, others through Ellis Island, all through a legal immigration process.

xoxoxoBruce 02-26-2008 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by DanaC (Post 435211)
You're equating illegal immigrants, who are human beings regardless of their legal status, with an infestation of ants now?

Certainly not, the ants belong here.

Radar 02-26-2008 11:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Flint (Post 435141)
You can't take a job that isn't being offered to you. A job isn't something you can take by force, like grabbing a TV after you smash in the shop window. How curious, to discuss this as if an invading force is battling to gain our territory. Whereas in fact, we've rolled out the red carpet for them.

First, there is no such thing as an "illegal immigrant" in America. 100% of federal immigration laws and even the immigration department itself is unconstitutional and therefore null and void.

I agree with you about jobs not being stolen. Jobs belong to whomever the employer chooses to hire out of those willing and able to perform the duties of the job at the agreed upon salary.

I have the right to hire anyone I want from anywhere I want with or without papers and no person or group of people, regardless of their number or what they call themselves...including "government" has any legitimate authority to force me to do otherwise.

When the English, Dutch, German, Irish, French, Italians, Africans, etc. came here, they just had to show up on a boat and they were welcomed with open arms and given the opportunity to live, work, and contribute inside America.

Radar 02-26-2008 11:49 PM

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Originally Posted by TheMercenary (Post 435347)
I know they came her through a legal process via Boston for one side, and via the Mayflower on another, others through Ellis Island, all through a legal immigration process.

The federal government is not granted any authority over immigration by the U.S. Constitution. The legal process is just to show up.

Ibby 02-26-2008 11:56 PM

http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse..../immigrant.gif

tw 02-27-2008 03:13 AM

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Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce (Post 435442)
Certainly not, the ants belong here.

Even ants are immigrants. And earth worms. And bees. And diseases. We need more quotas.

tw 02-27-2008 03:20 AM

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Originally Posted by TheMercenary (Post 435347)
I know they came her through a legal process via Boston for one side, ...

Legal only because no restrictions existed (except for Chinese). Did TheMercenary again forget to mention that part?

Today, with so much hate, some would attack evil immigrants. Conveniently forget how laws have changed to discriminate ... and call that good. So again, it’s all about 'good verse evil'. The good guys can even forget a few facts - and rationalize who are the good guys?

Of course they came legally when immigrants were welcome - when the good guys did not hate. How do we know? Good must always triumph over evil immigrants.

TheMercenary 02-27-2008 05:15 AM

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Originally Posted by tw (Post 435461)
Legal only because no restrictions existed (except for Chinese). Did TheMercenary again forget to mention that part?

Today, with so much hate, some would attack evil immigrants. Conveniently forget how laws have changed to discriminate ... and call that good. So again, it’s all about 'good verse evil'. The good guys can even forget a few facts - and rationalize who are the good guys?

Of course they came legally when immigrants were welcome - when the good guys did not hate. How do we know? Good must always triumph over evil immigrants.

Don't know much about the process at Ellis Island do ya?

TheMercenary 02-27-2008 05:40 AM

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Originally Posted by tw (Post 435459)
Even ants are immigrants. And earth worms. And bees. And diseases. We need more quotas.

:lol2: You crazy mad Ted.

HungLikeJesus 02-27-2008 10:54 AM

We do a lot of work with Indian tribes. Several times I've gone to meetings and seen someone wearing a t-shirt with a picture of Geronimo, Yahnoza, Chappo and Fun with the text "Homeland Security - Fighting Terrorism Since 1492"

Shawnee123 02-27-2008 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by lookout123 (Post 435266)
~snip~ well that, and American men have huge genitalia. It makes us happy, and our women even happier.

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Originally Posted by TheMercenary (Post 435345)
I don't think that is an important fantasy that needs to be perpetuated.

:p


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