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Shawnee123 02-11-2008 02:50 PM
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Originally Posted by TheMercenary (Post 431533)
Bottom line, you don't want to piss in the cup quit. Employers have every right to secure their job place and protect the public from errors that could be caused by drug use in the work place.
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Originally Posted by Spexxvet (Post 431535)
So they should give an IQ test, too? How about a driving test? Test for alcohol? Diabetics have been known to act eratically if their sugar sky rockets - better get a hemogloin a1-c on everybody. And how can you test for asshole?

What I do in my spare time is none of my employer's business until it effects my performance at work.

And I did once. Got injured because some slack-jaw built a unit wrong and it got hot and burned me as I tested it. Some tested units could have killed me. Went for treatment to be told I needed to pee in a cup. I refused (and not because I wouldn't have passed.) Fuck them. DId they test slack-jaw? Where's the IQ test? Your directive, then, is moot to me.

Shawnee123 02-11-2008 02:52 PM
"Mom, everyone else is jumping off the cliff so it MUST be the right thing to do." Is that really your argument? :lol:

TheMercenary 02-11-2008 03:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Shawnee123 (Post 431540)
And I did once. Got injured because some slack-jaw built a unit wrong and it got hot and burned me as I tested it. Some tested units could have killed me. Went for treatment to be told I needed to pee in a cup. I refused (and not because I wouldn't have passed.) Fuck them. DId they test slack-jaw? Where's the IQ test? Your directive, then, is moot to me.
And if it was a condition of employment you could easily be fired.

TheMercenary 02-11-2008 03:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Shawnee123 (Post 431541)
"Mom, everyone else is jumping off the cliff so it MUST be the right thing to do." Is that really your argument? :lol:
Where did anyone say that it was following a crowd? Quite the opposite.

Shawnee123 02-11-2008 03:19 PM
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Originally Posted by TheMercenary (Post 431547)
And if it was a condition of employment you could easily be fired.
Glad you plucked out a point, there. Yes, I was fired. I was following my principle: they never went out on any limbs for me, treated employees like dirt, and loved the slack-jawed. No big loss.

monster 02-11-2008 03:21 PM
If enough people refused, the emplyers would have to rethink. I bet they don't test movie stars.... :lol:

lumberjim 02-11-2008 03:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Spexxvet (Post 431535)
And how can you test for asshole?

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Quick! To the Spexxometer!

monster 02-11-2008 03:23 PM
As for refusing welfare to people who fail, what are you going to do with them? Build a bigger wall round your property and employ more guards to keep then from robbing you to fund their "habit"? Or divert the welfare into a worthwhile rehab program? what?

TheMercenary 02-11-2008 03:23 PM
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Originally Posted by monster (Post 431555)
If enough people refused, the emplyers would have to rethink. I bet they don't test movie stars.... :lol:
I guess it is business specific. I would also bet that most of the people at the top don't have to get tested. Certainly a double standard there. I think it is only important for dangerous jobs or jobs where other people depend on big safety issues.

TheMercenary 02-11-2008 03:25 PM
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Originally Posted by monster (Post 431558)
As for refusing welfare to people who fail, what are you going to do with them? Build a bigger wall round your property and employ more guards to keep then from robbing you to fund their "habit"? Or divert the welfare into a worthwhile rehab program? what?
http://www.oilempire.us/graphics/soylent-green.jpg

Shawnee123 02-11-2008 03:40 PM
lol...no week is complete in the Cellar without a Soylent Green reference. Well done!

classicman 02-11-2008 03:56 PM
How sober do you want your surgeon to be when he/she operates on you? Would you like him/her thinkin about his/her next drink or having the shakes? Perhaps your in an accident or your appendix or gall bladder bursts on the weekend and the surgeon was on "his/her time"? I'm not condoning anything, I'm just saying - I want my doc to be as clear headed as possible.

Shawnee123 02-11-2008 03:59 PM
You are cracking me UP! Do you think your doc gets drug tested? And what does this have to do with the price of eggs in China again?

I've seen plenty of drunk docs...waited on them at the club. They weren't doctoring. The lawyers weren't lawyering. The business owners weren't business ownering. The gold pros weren't golf proing.

Spexxvet 02-11-2008 04:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Shawnee123 (Post 431577)
You are cracking me UP! Do you think your doc gets drug tested? And what does this have to do with the price of eggs in China again?

I've seen plenty of drunk docs...waited on them at the club. They weren't doctoring. The lawyers weren't lawyering. The business owners weren't business ownering. The gold pros weren't golf proing.
And doctors get the BEST drugs, ya know.

Shawnee123 02-11-2008 04:02 PM
Just ask House! ;)


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