Right on!

I'd add that they need to lead in the right direction. I don't want to follow a strong leader off a cliff.

Good discussion. Hillary is not the answer. Obama, maybe, McCain, maybe. I don't know. If Hitlery gets the nod from the Dems I will vote for Donald Duck if he is the Repub canidate.

But Wesley Snipes like Hillary's tax cut proposal.

I'm honestly happy that at this point, no matter who goes to the general election of the few candidates left, it won't be as bad as the choices 4 years ago. It really was 'who's the lesser of two evils' question for me. I don't think I'd be unhappy with any of them this go round.

So what's wrong with Clinton?

Personally, I am proud to be an American, but I hear so much from so many that it troubles me a great deal. Thats why I said what I said.
Aside from than that, I agree with you.

There isn't enough paper on the planet to answer that.

How about the top 5... 3... 1?

#1 seems to be that she's a Clinton.

Everything.:cool:

I don't know how you'd stand listening to her voice for the next 4-8 yrs to be honest.

She sounds like a fishwife.

Here are the basic frames I see:

Shrill, Femi-nazi, Tough, Manipulative, Slippery (slimed by Bill), Ruthless, Driven, Demanding, Angry, Built-in network to the Democratic partisan machine.

Old, Unstable, Hot Tempered, Loudmouth, Two-faced, Power hungry, Manipulative, Lacking Governing Skill, Bush-light, Riding his War record.

Naive, Black Male= (unstable, angry, threatening, untrustworthy, unelectable), Manipulative, Insincere, Idealistic, Unprepared, Muslim, Terrorist.

Mormon freak, Corporate slime, Vain Power-hungry pretty boy, heir to the Bush policy and political machine legacy.

Preacher, Theocratic, Clueless hick, unprepared, Bushian feel for constitution, Tax and spend, naive, idealistic.

A republican friend passed this on to me:

1) She's a Clinton or a Bush.
2) She's "Hillary" Clinton.
3) Here Husband is Bill Clinton.
4) List of Clinton Scandals.
5) Stance on Taxes.
6) Stance in Iraq.
7) Look at her.
8) Listen to her.
9) Lack of action with Wal-Mart situation.
10) Political beliefs are contrary to mine.

I only see 4,5,6,9 & 10 as valid, but that's certainly enough to make an opinion.


Oh, and congrats to Warch, you done did it.