no, I cannot completely discard society's influences. and when I don't act virtuously, I still have to live with myself.

I mean, that's why I've struggled with this thread. It's obviously naive, not to mention impossible, to act like you are not a part of society.

To me, the least convincing reasons to be virtuous are based on the so-called supernatural. I like a clear, logical reason.

I am, for instance, not dazzled by the fact that Jesus "rose from the dead" etc. but I do think he made a straightforward case for good behavior. I am quite certain that his message was either (or both) #1 intended to be convincing to a specific group of monotheists, with their own belief systems already intact, or #2 was misinterpreted by those specific monotheists that wrote it down. I lean towards the scenario where they could only hear and understand things in a certain framework, and that's how it got recorded. But I think there is also an element to it of Jesus playing to his audience.