not to mention cultural perceptions of body art may be quite different in the Phillipines.

You talking' to me?

If you have an exclusive product, that does not limit its appeal, but makes it rather stand out amongst a sea of otherwise similar competitors.

As an example, people spend a lot of money for organic food because they've been convinced, without any real data, that it's somehow better than non-organic. In reality, the opposite is probably true and they are paying more for an inferior, and potentially dangerous, product.

You think organic is not better than something that's been sprayed with chemicals to within an inch of it's life and then picked from the vine weeks before you actually get to eat it which means all the good chakra is gone anyway...along with any nutrients that sun ripening provides?

Exclusivity has it's drawbacks, but that's not really the issue here. It's the fact that the owners think that they're making their place more exclusive by keeping out a very large proportion of the general and exclusive public.

Any idea how many celebrities who would be considered exclusive, have tattoos? I wonder if they'd want to keep someone like say...Sarah O'Hare out. She's a top model and one very classy lady who happens to have a very small tattoo on her upper arm.

The list is endless.

I have grown both organics and standard foods. Worked with PhDs and Masters, run trials from UF and others and can tell you, unequivocally, that organic is VASTLY superior in EVERY way imaginable.

Exactly what I'm saying. No data.

Yeah, those Doctor's and University studies are meaningless. LOL!

Sure, they lied about their results, then requested that we switch over so we made a LOT more money from them and the retailers... makes perfect sense.

How can it possibly not be better for you to eat less chemicals?

HLJ, what data are you referring to?

Back to the thread...
what if the tattoo consists of a six digit number in blue ink on the left forearm?

(the point being, this was how the nazis marked concentration camp victims)

Do tattoos applied against one's will count?

from the snippet of the article quoted by Bruce in the OP

-I'd say that'd probably cover it

to be fair (much as it goes against the grain in this instance); these people are not banning all people with tattoos or piercings--just large, visible tattoos, and multiple piercings past some arbitrary limit they've made.

I was going to start a new thread on organic food to get it out of this thread, but I found that there were already three:

http://cellar.org/showthread.php?t=2873
http://cellar.org/showthread.php?t=5131
http://cellar.org/showthread.php?t=14072

I have not read the third one yet.


Water is a chemical, and I need lots of that.

Actually, what do we eat that isn't made of chemicals?

And remember, lead, arsenic and cyanide are all natural.

My inner lawyer says: not so (and charges me $130 for the advice, the greedy bastard :blah: ) on the grounds that these tattoos are not specific to the person's religion (most Jewish people don't have them) or national origin (as above).

Mind you if this case DID arise I reckon the business owners would allow the exception on these grounds. Imagine the stink if they fought it, the headlines...

But this clause WOULD cover Maori (native New Zealander) facial tattoos. These are sometimes huge swirls that cover most of the face and can be intimidating to many people, and are sometimes associated with antisocial behaviour. And how about those Africans with the huge lip-disks (see IotD)?

I think what we have here is an apartment manager who has decided to try to keep the riff-raff out, but who has come up with a very clumsy way of doing so. I guess it was supposed to be easier to administer than a full character/background/appearance check, but in the end I think its going to be so inaccurate in weeding out the unwelcome, and so hard to administer, that it just won't work.
I'll be curious to see how long it lasts.

It shouldn't be illegal, but it is closed-minded and annoying. OMG, people with tattoos are scary! :rolleyes:

Of course lead etc are naturally occuring, however, we don't set out to add them to our food on purpose. That really is not a very good comparison. I could say that magic mushrooms are organic too, but I wouldn't be sitting down to a plate of them for dinner would I?

As far as the production of organic produce goes, the issue is not the base particles of the food that is in question. It is the poisons that are sprayed on the food to keep bugs off. It also encompasses the soil the plants are grown in and the fact that it should be free of pollutants and it covers the water and fertilizer used to encourage growth.

It's fairly simple HLJ. I expected a bit better from you to be honest.

If you dont like organic food, don't eat it. If you think your health is worth considering when you decide whether the purchase organic products or not, then buy the organic produce.

There may be no irrefutable facts either for or against organic produce however, if I have the choice, I'd much prefer the product without pesticides and other pollutants.