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lumberjim 07-24-2007 10:39 PM

if a girl is really mad at you, she aint hitting you. she's going to stay with her sister.

Flint 07-24-2007 10:39 PM

"one of the few" ??? ... dude ... uh ...

bluecuracao 07-24-2007 10:43 PM

Fresh, I realize what you're trying to say, but what Monster, Shawnee, and I are trying to say is that a woman hitting a man is not acceptable either, at all.

I don't doubt that many men are victims of abuse by women. But I do doubt that 'hormones' are a common cause. Lack of respect, anger issues and mental instability are more likely culprits, just as with men abusing women (or men abusing men, or women abusing women, whatever the relationship may be).

bluecuracao 07-24-2007 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by lumberjim (Post 367746)
if a girl is really mad at you, she aint hitting you. she's going to stay with her sister.

And she's not putting out.

Oh great, now I'm being sexist. Stop it, you guys!

Uisge Beatha 07-24-2007 10:47 PM

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That's just...awful, UB. ~snip~ I hope you're not in that kind of situation anymore.
Thanks, blue. That relationship ended over four years ago. I now have plenty of time to annoy everybody here. :p

I don't believe my wife really wanted to hurt me. She is deeply troubled, mainly from having been abused as a child. Violence became a part of her and would pop up whether or not she intended such. This is part of the problem with partner abuse; it is too often unintentional. Again, this is no excuse, but rather an unfortunate fact.

DucksNuts 07-24-2007 10:47 PM

I've never punched, slapped or kicked another human out of anger (well, except my brother when I was 10, I'm not perfect).

I playfully punch my workmates/friends in the arms, but thats it.

Actually, I dont say anything that I will regret later either in the heat of the moment.....sometimes things said in anger can never be taken back and hurt more than the physical.

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Now, let's all say together: beating on each other is not a healthy way to solve problems. I don't care about your gender, your race, your color, or what planet you're from. It's stupid.
Stop making excuses for girls with tempers they cant control and the lack of respect they are displaying.

If they are beating/slapping/kicking whatever in anger....its a problem and no one should accept it.

bluecuracao 07-24-2007 10:51 PM

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Originally Posted by DucksNuts (Post 367759)
Actually, I dont say anything that I will regret later either in the heat of the moment.....sometimes things said in anger can never be taken back and hurt more than the physical.

Good point. We don't do that either. Sure, we get angry with each other sometimes, but we explain why instead of saying stupid crap.

freshnesschronic 07-24-2007 10:57 PM

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Originally Posted by freshnesschronic (Post 367494)
I think there is a much bigger difference if a male is being abusive than if a female is "being abusive."

I originally stated a huge difference between the two.

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Originally Posted by freshnesschronic (Post 367497)
Maybe I'm more traditional on this, but I'll let emo PMSy girls hit their boyfriends and start crying but I don't think a guy shaking his girl is appropriate.

Basically saying a girl getting emo isn't really a life threatening or relationship threatening experience and definitely marking physicality in males as unacceptable.

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Originally Posted by freshnesschronic (Post 367743)
All we are trying to say is, that is more of an acceptable behaivor than a man putting his hand on a woman.

You don't see girls getting police reports of domestic abuse for slapping their boyfriend in the face when he comes home at 2 am, or throwing pillows as hard as she can at him when he forgets to water the dead hedges while she was away for the weekend.

Ok, physical abuse in any way is wrong. I never disagreed with this statement, everyone happy?


I consider it a whole 'nother ballpark when a girl hits a guy, but that's just me. Sure I'm making huge assumptions about the guy and girl but listen to this. I prefer it to have a girl getting tense and jabbing her guy in the chest than a guy backhanding a girl that sends her wiped out on the kitchen floor. Is that wrong?

Let's focus on anonymous and not me, ok? I don't even think what I said was THAT big of a deal, really.

Aliantha 07-25-2007 02:32 AM

Girls that carry on and hit their boyfriends don't deserve their boyfriends. It's just stupid. No one should feel that it's ok to hit or be hit by someone who is out of control.

I once slapped the man who fathered my children. I was out of control at the time. That was because he crashed MY car into the fence when he arrived home at 8am Monday morning, drunk and smelling like a perfume shop after having left for 'work' the previous evening.

Yep, I definitely didn't deserve him.

I left him that day, and took the kids with me.

bluecuracao 07-25-2007 02:58 AM

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Originally Posted by freshnesschronic (Post 367770)
I prefer it to have a girl getting tense and jabbing her guy in the chest than a guy backhanding a girl that sends her wiped out on the kitchen floor. Is that wrong?

Think about the scenario switched around. The guy jabs at the girl in frustration, and the girl throws an uppercut at the guy that flattens him out. It's all wrong.

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Originally Posted by freshnesschronic (Post 367770)
You don't see girls getting police reports of domestic abuse for slapping their boyfriend in the face when he comes home at 2 am

Maybe not, but it sure isn't a healthy relationship.

freshnesschronic 07-25-2007 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by bluecuracao (Post 367810)
Think about the scenario switched around. The guy jabs at the girl in frustration, and the girl throws an uppercut at the guy that flattens him out. It's all wrong.

It was never a scenario it was just two separate distinct actions, one by a girl, one by a guy. I highlighted in red that I said it was wrong in both cases.

Shawnee123 07-25-2007 11:36 AM

Yes, he distinctly said it was, I mean wasn't, was, wasn't OK for PMSy emo girls to hit.

So, what do we blame it on when a guy hits? Backed up semen?

There's no doubt that PMS exists and can cause a whole range of emotions, but it has nothing to do with people who like to hit. :headshake

Just wanted to point that out.

jester 07-25-2007 12:50 PM

I have only hit a guy one time and it was well deserved. I was in middle school and he was being a jerk, calling me names (constantly), as in every freakin day - so during lunch and in the lunch line - I could stand it no more and slapped him in the face - not really a "hit" but it got the point across and he left me alone after that.:p

limey 07-25-2007 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by bluecuracao (Post 367762)
Good point. We don't do that either. Sure, we get angry with each other sometimes, but we explain why instead of saying stupid crap.

Best Beloved and I sometimes say the stupid crap, too ... but we realise soon after what's going on and explain once we've worked it out, or work it out together.

edited to add: ... and we're getting quicker off the mark each time!

BigV 07-25-2007 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by jester (Post 367959)
I have only hit a guy one time and it was well deserved. I was in middle school and he was being a jerk, calling me names (constantly), as in every freakin day - so during lunch and in the lunch line - I could stand it no more and slapped him in the face - not really a "hit" but it got the point across and he left me alone after that.:p

jerk and jester, sittin in a tree,
h - i - t - t - i - n - g

oooooooo a crush.... :rolleyes:


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