If we are to revisit this for another few years... causing me to vomit... let's put this into evidence

Mr Ritter's 1998 letter of resignation from UNSCOM

Doesn't matter what evidence you, Undertoad, or Cherrycoke put up. Bottom line is that Iran fed Bush and his cronies lies about Hussein's WMD program through Chalabi, and almost everyone in power fell for it. Iran won again without firing a shot, and now the US Gov't is acting sore by banging the war drums against Iran. This time the drums are meant with relative silence; no cheering for the Gov't.

Yes, and what a shame it is that you weren't there to explain it to them.

Whatever. Bush led the push into Iraq before Afghanistan was even taken care of. That the democrats went along with it does not excuse them.

The decision to invade Iraq was already made in August 2002. To protect the secrecy of that decision, all military decisions were removed from subordinate officiers; only made at the highest levels. A demand for information to justify that decision had started even earlier.

Meanwhile, the National Intelligence Estimate (NIE) that implied Saddam was a threat in its executive summary, also was chock full of facts that said otherwise. As I understand it, Congressman read none of it other than a few Congressman who read only the five page executive summary. Appreciate what people do when they pretend to be partiotic rather than informed.

Don't fool yourself. Even the Democrats are only passively opposing war for an obvious reason. Notice how few Americans really oppose war. Yes, you now read complaints. So what? Many Americans still do not stand up for the American soldier. Most Americans still so approve of the George Jr as to not even ask one simple question: When do we go after bin Laden?

Do you need a benchmark? That question is it. Until you ask that question regularly, then you still support George Jr's "Mission Accomplished". Yes there is still, today, a lot of blame. How many noticed America is preparing to attack someone in the next few months? We are not done supporting George Jr - by acting naive and not asking the damning question.

You don't have to be uneducated to be a zealot/fanatic/ignorant in some ways. I think most that say they are creationists, really are not.

On that note, Hillary worries me, I do not really believe she is telling us what she believes/feels in her heart and mind. She tells us what she thinks we want to hear and will get us to give her what she wants.
I don't trust her as far as I can throw her. She is a power-monger.