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Phil 12-19-2006 02:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shawnee123
Um, not too fond of the Phil? Sorry...just looked at the "hello" and the "Phil" and it popped into my head. Sorry if you've had your fill of Phil.

;)

no problem. i just wish he'd stop recording.:right:

Elspode 12-19-2006 04:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shawnee123
Um, not too fond of the Phil? Sorry...just looked at the "hello" and the "Phil" and it popped into my head. Sorry if you've had your fill of Phil.

;)

Hey, I *like* Phil. I like him better as Genesis' drummer behind Peter Gabriel, but a guy's got to make a living.

lumberjim 12-19-2006 04:52 PM

McCracken, Phil

[undisclosed]
Syracuse, NY 13218
http://www.411.com/static/common/images/trans.gifEmail Phil McCracken


Sundae 12-20-2006 06:01 AM

Phil are you a Welsh speaker?
Either way I'm sure you're better at Welsh pronunciation than me - if I post some place names could you give me a phonetic rendering?

I didn't dare ask our last Welsh poster. She had some (ahem) issues.

Elspode 12-20-2006 01:09 PM

Yeah, the only people she hated more than Americans were Brits.

What a wanker.

Sundae 12-20-2006 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Elspode
Yeah, the only people she hated more than Americans were Brits.

What a wanker.

... and Muslims, and blacks, and teens, and anyone she perceived as having less education.... and that's the abbreviated list!

Phil 12-20-2006 01:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sundae Girl
Phil are you a Welsh speaker?
Either way I'm sure you're better at Welsh pronunciation than me - if I post some place names could you give me a phonetic rendering?

I didn't dare ask our last Welsh poster. She had some (ahem) issues.


my kids are fluent, my wife speaks SWalean (welsh by south wales ... slightly different from north wales), and i can pronounce quite a bit. if you want me to, i'm sure i could help.

the "rivalry" between the welsh and english goes back to Edward1 who invaded and eventually conquered Wales, and Anglicised the Welsh language out of the people. Before this, we had our own princes etc., and the feeling of being second class to what happens in England is still felt today. Luckily, the language survived and is stronger today than it has been for 800 years.

however, most Welsh people have nothing against the English people, and plenty against the monarchy and the government. sounds like she was just an ignorant racist.

Phil 12-20-2006 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by lumberjim


wtf? :neutral:

Sundae 12-20-2006 02:00 PM

Don't worry, she identified herself as a Brit too and it didn't take long for the rest of us to :bolt:
I love Wales personally, and the last time I was there (for my 30th birthday) I was treated with such kindness I will definitely go back.

Okay, these are in a poem by U A Fanthorpe (which I will post in the poetry thread) which I love but have been unable ever to read aloud!

Blaen-Rhondda, Nantyglo, Senghenydd

Phil 12-20-2006 02:16 PM

Blaen-Rhondda - Bline Rontha

Nantyglo - Nant-uh-Glow

Senghenydd - Sen-gen-ith

Shawnee123 12-20-2006 02:30 PM

I thought the entire UK spoke English? Guess I learned something new today.

Phil 12-20-2006 02:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shawnee123
I thought the entire UK spoke English? Guess I learned something new today.


it does, but Wales, Ireland, Scotland (and Cornwall) have their own ancient languages.

DanaC 12-20-2006 04:49 PM

My trips to Wales have always been great. I also love the sound of Welsh being spoken. Lovely.

monster 12-20-2006 09:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phil
the "rivalry" between the welsh and english goes back to Edward1 who invaded and eventually conquered Wales, and Anglicised the Welsh language out of the people. Before this, we had our own princes etc., and the feeling of being second class to what happens in England is still felt today. Luckily, the language survived and is stronger today than it has been for 800 years.

The Welsh are the one British nation not recognised in the Union Flag, because at the time of the creation of the flag, Wales had already been "assimilated" by England. The Union flag is a combination of the flags of St George (England) Patrick (Ireland) and Andrew (Scotland).

All who think we should plonk a dragon in the middle of the red cross say Bydd



/no idea if this is the right word, the site I found said the Welsh had more words for yes and no than the English do for bonking

lumberjim 12-20-2006 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Phil
wtf? :neutral:


phil mccracken = fill my crack in.

just pointing out that there actually is a guy with that name.

there's a Ben Dover, too.

so, im easily amused.


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