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DanaC 12-06-2006 02:13 PM

then who is the 'far left' that people are sick of?

yesman065 12-06-2006 02:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DanaC
then who is the 'far left' that people are sick of?

The Republicans - of course. But as smart as you are, I know you could have figured that out by process of elimination.

Clodfobble 12-06-2006 03:40 PM

You've got it backwards, yesman. Dems/liberals are left, Reps/conservatives are right.

yesman065 12-06-2006 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Clodfobble
You've got it backwards, yesman. Dems/liberals are left, Reps/conservatives are right.

Gee really??? And I thought Dana was serious - I was only joking. We all know which extreme is which and that most of us fall somewhere in between.

DanaC 12-06-2006 04:49 PM

My point yesman, is not which side is which; but rather, which ones are the extreme left? I have yet to see any evidence of 'far left' politics in the current or recent mainstream political scene.

xoxoxoBruce 12-06-2006 05:05 PM

And hopefully you won't...far right either. :worried:

tw 12-06-2006 05:46 PM

Amazing how they have us arguing over a mythical political rope - hanging at both ends like a centenary. Myth puts highest points at an extreme left and extreme right. No wonder these extremists want gerrymandering.

Reality: a rope is hanging from a Ceiling where independents are at the top and where extremist Democrats and Republicans reside at the bottom end. Frayed rope at bottom contains the various ‘least intelligent’ politicians.

George Jr is nominated for the worst president ever (see Move Over, Hoover). This made obvious because a political agenda ("Americans don't do nation building", Saddam was involved in 11 Sept, anti-ballistic missile need, nuclear bunker busting bomb, war-time president, world wide terrorism, ‘god chose me as president’, Reagan proved that deficits don't matter, ‘god told me to attack Iraq’, etc) is more important that intelligent thought.

Rope hangs highest where intelligence resides - where decisions are made after first learning facts. The rope hangs low where intelligent thought would only confuse the brown shirts. Notice, to be intelligent, one must first do the work – learn facts – be educated – learn science – learn Military Science 101, etc. Low intelligence is a characteristic of extremist politicians who don’t even have sufficient brain power to climb that rope. To find intelligence, then find independents.

What did intelligent people recognize on 7 Nov 2006? That the president is wrong, a liar, and his war was lost years ago. Only intelligent people - those highest on the rope - could see that.

Who actually makes Congress work? Those who meet in that center aisle with their intelligent peers from the other party. Moderates mean higher intelligence - decisions based on facts and not based on political rhetoric.

The rope is not a centenary. Rope hangs from the roof where independents are up; political extremists are at the bottom.

Where on that rope do we find patriots? Obviously at the top because working for America is more important than working for the party. What are extremists doing - and deny? Extremists work first and foremost for the party (just like another party - communism); America be damned. To be a patriot, one must climb that rope.

We have a benchmark for where you exist on that rope. How long ago did you see “Mission Accomplished” was lost? How many times did you ask, “when are we going after bin Laden”.

Pangloss62 12-06-2006 05:49 PM

Blue Vomit
 
OK. Let me start by saying that I already know that I'm an arrogant SOB. Really, I know that. But after what I saw the other night I must post.

I never liked the category "World Music." What the fuck music is not of this world? Why don't they call it what they really mean, which is "Non-Western Music?" I ask this because the other night I took a heaping, sticky-sweet and self-induced dose of Billboard Magazine's top World Music group: Celtic Women.

http://www.wildfreshness.com/brian/a...elticwoman.jpg

Jesus H. Christ! What a load of ersatz-mystical-New-Age bullshit. You gotta give the guy who put it together, David Downes, credit for hitting the schmaltzy nail on the head. He also worked on that Riverdance spectacle that never seemed to go away. You see, this is why a lot of people hate me; what they really like and think is "brilliant" and "inspiring" I find nearly intolerable. How can that many people like this crap?

The entire performance was like a bad "Mystical Moods of Ireland" calendar you might see in the discount bin after Christmas. It got really painful when they trotted out the Irish pipe player to add "authenticity" to the machine-generated misty veil of Irish fog that wafted over the fake heath. Oh my goodness. You should have seen the audience in awe of the spectacle, all smiling and mouthing the words to songs so incessantly positive and "uplifting" that I nearly puked. Why did I keep watching? I must be a masochist.

But I conclude, that like a whole bunch of this "World Music" shite, it's not really Non-Western at all. In fact, with all the theatrics, bombast, and overproduction, it was quintessentially Western, a product of a shrewd business plan that tapped into the sentimental and historically myopic minds of the great middlemass (think Yanni). It was held on the grounds of an Irish castle for Chrissakes! "Times must have been so great in the Dark Ages" I said to myself. "Everything was so blue, so beautiful, and so electrically amplified back then."

And all this in spite of the fact that they didn't have bad voices.

It's gonna be on PBS a whole bunch, so be forewarned.

DanaC 12-06-2006 05:50 PM

For once I agree with you :P

Aliantha 12-06-2006 06:01 PM

What's wrong with creating something appealing to the masses from ancient cultures?

Surely some education is better than none?

Urbane Guerrilla 12-06-2006 09:24 PM

As immoderate as tw is, we now see clearly where his "intelligence" keeps him: below those he lauds.

richlevy 12-06-2006 09:42 PM

I like Celtic music and I caught a few minutes of that while channel surfing. I saw these women in white robes gliding through fog in front of a castle while making inarticulate harmonies. After hanging around for a few minutes waiting for them to bring out the human sacrifice, I decided that this was as exciting as it would get and moved on.


BTW, what's the Celtic word for 'schmaltz'?

lookout123 12-06-2006 09:43 PM

larry bird

yesman065 12-07-2006 07:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DanaC
My point yesman, is not which side is which; but rather, which ones are the extreme left? I have yet to see any evidence of 'far left' politics in the current or recent mainstream political scene.

I was referring to the general disdain - not of anything specifically current, but I fully expect it to start soon after the inaugurations.

Shawnee123 12-07-2006 07:54 AM

What bothers me is its just one more genre falling to the "you have to be really attractive to make music" game. Country started it.

Just...Yuck...that's all I can say.


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