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Aliantha 11-02-2006 07:34 PM

Shit...i've still got it backwards. That must be because I'm liberal. ;)

WabUfvot5 11-03-2006 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by lookout123
why is it even a question? i don't think it is, but... eh. a group of businesses get together and decide "these radio stations aren't saying anything that benefits us. let's all agree not to air our commercials, which we pay for during their shows. agreed?" how is that a big deal?

I don't think corporations should be allowed to control what the public hears, do you? If they can sink Air America then they wield considerable influence. Would they dare to be opposed, even by the ruling party, if they had such might?

Flint 11-03-2006 10:34 PM

The media isn't anything but another business. Frankly, I don't know how people have been convinced of this illusion of an impartial information-provider. We don't have a basic right to information sources, it's a privately-owned business, for profit. That's all. Trust it accordingly.

lookout123 11-03-2006 11:09 PM

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I don't think corporations should be allowed to control what the public hears, do you?
they don't control what you hear. they control what they PAY for people to hear. if i was a shareholder of a company that chose to invest money in ad time that caters to a market that is less than profitable i'd scream bloody murder at their inept calculations on ROI.

i'm not saying air america should or shouldn't be heard, but if they can't get ad support it's because they are producing a product that not enough people value. that may be because all of america is stupid or it may be that they just do a really really poor job at the business of business.

WabUfvot5 11-04-2006 05:34 AM

I think we're taking two different angles to the reading of this article. I got the impression that Air America is being targeted for it's stance; in other words that it's not the lowest rated radio show. Now that could be wrong. I searched for recent Arbitron ratings and couldn't find any besides for individual markets (nothing nationwide). If somebody can find recent nationwide ones I'd be greatful.

I'm more than in agreement with you if Air America is getting shitty ratings and other "blacklists" like this one exist. Whatever the case we're not getting the full story.

WabUfvot5 11-04-2006 05:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Flint
The media isn't anything but another business. Frankly, I don't know how people have been convinced of this illusion of an impartial information-provider. We don't have a basic right to information sources, it's a privately-owned business, for profit. That's all. Trust it accordingly.

Of course. In this case I'm very wary about the number of corps possibly trying to decide something for ABC (cancelling Air America), which has not been fearful of kissing Neocon ass lately.

Spexxvet 11-04-2006 08:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Aliantha
Shit...i've still got it backwards. That must be because I'm liberal. ;)

Try autonecrophilia - having sex with your dead self.

9th Engineer 11-04-2006 01:34 PM

Somehow I don't think the mental image of zombies beating off will appeal to many:neutral:

Urbane Guerrilla 11-06-2006 10:06 PM

But you just know somebody will get around to it -- on a bet.


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