I know its been said in a few different ways already, but i'll say it again my way...

Religion as a guide on how to live well, as a philosophy of loving your fellows and doing the right thing, is very good, and a driving force behind a lot of good in society.

Religion as a monopoly on your life, as an ultimatum on what you can and can't do, as a way for religious leaders to use you as a pawn and control your life, is horrible and wrong, and a driving force behind a lot of evil in society.

bullshit..Flint you are a lier. Always have been always will be.

[edit] I don't quite understand. You want to misquote me, put it in your ID because you think it's funny? The person you hate enough to call a total fucking psyco for years...the person who got his buds to hate on her too.The person who has to present me in a bad light every chance you get. You think that person is funny enough to quote? I am a psycho again for thinking you were not having warm fuzzys? Now why would I think such a thing? gawd YOU are the one who is screwed up and I don't need to call you names to prove it either.

Both of you are acting younger than I am. It's unbecoming of both of you.

aww, you're right of course and I think you're sweet for being so nice about it. I could just hug you. You cellaries are nice. I like nice.

about religion
 

One the other hand people are social creatures. Religion is a way for people to belong. Unless it is somekind of solitary religion. Many things can bring about a' religious experience'. Some people find a kind of religion in music,hiking to see a sun set on a cliff overlooking the sea, love,sex,magic. It can be whatever a person wants it to be.

So religion can be either good or bad depending on how one defines it. I guess.

The only time I believe in religion is...well...not very often. Mostly, if someone were to ask me how I define spirituality, I'd have to go with the budhists.

I don't believe religion has any place in matters of state and the two should be more definitively divided.

So, what I said means what you say it meant, not what I say it meant ???
It's a joke...Like I said, a play on 'dizzying intellectual' - get it? I'm making fun of me.
I've always been nice to you, even though it was hard. The one thing I remember about you from AG was that you post-stalked me, and it creeped me out. But I didn't hold it against you. I've always tried to be nice to you, even though you keep snapping and lashing out at me irrationally...like you're doing now...again.
What ??? I'm sorry you had a bad time on AG, for whatever reason. I didn't know about that, at the time, and still have no idea what it was about. Don't blame your troubles in getting along with people on me. (That's what a crazy person would do!)
What is it about what you're doing that I am resonsible for ??? You control you. You do it to yourself. E v e r y time. Try to see the pattern.
I don't even know what that means. So, the answer is a tenative "yes" . . .

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Perhaps you shouldn't be on the internet. It doesn't seem to be something you can enjoy. You don't seem to be able to communicate via typed English sentences, without adding your own internal spin to what people say, invariably finding some bizarre worst-possible interpretation.

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@Ibram: I'm sorry you have to see this. This isn't something I am interested in pursuing. Does this site have an "ignore" button? I've never used one before, except for spammer/flooders, but this may be the exception to the rule.

New Age Charlatan
 

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DanaC wanted to know the indentity of this man. He is Dr. Wayne Dyer. You may have seen him on TV. One of my latest gripes is how PBS is using the New Age pablum of Dr. Wayne Dyer's "Power of Intention" to raise money. This is just the kind of crap I DON'T want to see on PBS. I used to contribute to my local PBS affiliate, but I won't if they keep putting this shit on the air.:neutral:

@Pangloss62: You have to be careful what you ask for! If what you're asking for is a channel that only shows you things that you already believe, what you'll get is a channel that never teaches you anything new!

verbal gymnastics


like now?


I private IM'ed you and you said. "Hell no you didn't think I was stalking you" because I wasn't the only one posting things to you but that must have been one of the other 2 or 3 users that use the 'flint persona' at that time or you are a lier.

YOU are lashing at me buddy boy. Don't pretend to know me. and yes anyone can see you have serious problem with me.

lie ,,,bold faced lier

I don't get along with ag's dysfunctional freaks that's all.


ager's verbal abuse mode. Good for starting fights.




and you know where you can stick that right?


It's you who added the spin. I tried to post a positive with every cajole. You took out of context something I said to somebody else without even responding to the post itself. I asked you to remove it from your ID because of all of the above and as a true personality disorder type you got to make it out to be an ugly thing.Like a true ager you are.

shine on mind fucker

Belief?
 

I don't "believe" things, I know things.


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What I don't like about PBS using Dyer to raise money is that he's raking in the dough through his watered down New Age "religion." If he really wanted to help people, why wouldn't he just give his DVDs and crap away, or at least at cost? Why doesn't he do his presentations to poor people? Because there are thousands of rich, mostly white suburbanites to preach to (and make money off of). Why is this crap any different than the shit they offer over at the Trinity Network? I'ts just another religion promising constant happiness and serenity. Why are we so desperate to have everything perfect? And why do I keep watching this stuff? And why will PBS accept the promotion of New Age gurus but not Evangelical Christians? And why am I so cranky today? :neutral:

:::click::: Goodbye forever, crazy bitch.

Maybe to counter-act the "bigger megaphone" effect? Or maybe just because it appeals more to their demographic? Good question.

Again, I think you are confusing religion with spirituality (& a little with philosophy). Religion is a social club, membership is just based on saying your faith is similar to others in the org. No one knows another's heart, no one knows another's faith. Religion is a club, nothing more.
Na-uh... S-Young Frankenstein!

ha ha ha . . . I knew that dude was familiar!


As to "the definition of Religion versus the definition of Spirituality" - that does tend to be a huge misconception (confusing the two) - but after all, Religion tries as hard as it can to get confused with Spirituality, so what do you expect?