Most of the time I find Wikipedia definitions higher quality than Urban Dictionary....unless you usually look up terms like "Cleveland Steamer".

Of course now some twit will claim that pointing that out is a "pissing contest".

:::crickets chirping:::

If there's a large difference difference between "an arguable interpretation" and "what you actually meant" (which is different from "what [you] actually post"...there's that subjectivity thing again) then you probably need to express yourself more precicely. It is called debate, after all.

But I don't see any point with "discussing the idea" of moderation being subjective if there's no alternative; one might as well "discuss the idea" of the water being wet. What possible conclusion could be reached about such a thing?

But when I suggested what I saw as the possible venue for an alternative (or even a reductio ad absurdam type of couterexample), you got all upset about my craftily and viciously accusing you of a desire to do such a henious thing. What a bizarre twist indeed.

See?

"Lissen! I didn't put a bullet in the furnace...and stop talking about my mother!" -- Bill Cosby

:corn:

It's just a discussion of ideas, not an attempt to reach a conclusion to a problem, simply a discussion. You explore the subject form different angles, and occasionally new connections are made, new ideas or new subjects are hatched. It's not a contest, it's not a battle for dominance.

I think I do a decent job. You may disagree, and that's a good thing, because I welcome constructive criticism. But at some point, a completely subjective point, criticism ceases to be constructive and becomes an end in itself. My perception of that point, as applies here, is such that every time you post, Maggie, you seem to be making an effort to find fault, with no real agenda other than posturing yourself into a dominant position. I keep mentioning this because I find it fascinating. Care to comment? Or not?

Not to be confused with criticism for its own sake. :-)

okay, that's funny

:::stumbles around, searching in vain for clever response:::

I think if someone else has read the post it will say edited, it will if they've posted for sure. Why did you try to "back out" rather than just continuing? :confused:

There are plenty of people who just love to argue, doesn't matter what the subject is. But when, from the moment they arrive, the majority of their contribution is to argue about the NATURE OR STRUCTURE of arguing, discrimination, moderating a forum, or any other thing which existed before they graced us with their presence, then it's a mind fuck for your own amusement rather than any meaningful attempt to know anybody or share observations. And then claim people are being mean if they stomp on your balloon instead of play with you. But that's fine, go ahead, Flint. This is kinda fun. Maggie was always really good at making mincemeat :yum:

I'm trying to follow the plot but it's impossible.

I'm probably not here enough to really know anymore, but when I was here every freakin' day (January 2001-June 2005), Radar was King of the Assholes. But I suspect that much of his schtick is an act. Maggie could be pretty bad too, but then she was gone for quite some time, plus I think she means well more often than not. And then there was Dave...man, no one could put a pimple on his ass.

LJ can come across as a total dick, but I think he's more of a playbaby than anything. I don't think he's a bad guy...like Maggie, he means well more often than not. He just likes to stir up shit.

As a whole, Hubris Boy is probably the most ornery SOB we have here. He rules, except for the fact that he worships Margaret Thatcher. :)

Being an example of the "start your own board" concept. :-)
Y'all at least are substantial enough to have taken a fair number of eyeballs with you (not that they left here; it's not completely a zero-sum phenomenon) on the strength of your own cred as an Interesting Person.

But, Starry Sky, syc! What are you doing up at 4am on a Saturday? :-)

It's amusing to note that some folks who complained the loudest about "don't tell me how to post" are so full of advice for others on that very topic...:-)

Between a FT job, an occasional PT job, school and spending time with April, I barely have time to devote to my own board much less here! :)

Starting my own board was mainly a vehicle for writing the Manifestos after UT and I had our falling out 2 years ago. We're cool now (at least I think we are), but I like the Manifestos being on their own.

I had just gotten home from my brother's house. My mom's 50th birthday party is today, and we were finalizing shit for that.