Today got a new kboard, new mouse and 1 used one that sold as "retail." To me retail means boxed, new. The one I'm trying is MS intellimouse explorer 4.0. I like it. Ive been a trackball user for years. BTW. I missed the "fox" from fedx this morning. But was here when a big black guy from them came by. Boy you should have seen the show he put on when my dog bailed out the door. She doesn't bite, just thinks everyone comes to see her.

This might fit here. Today my directv went off. I had owed them 28.52, and was due the 23th and paid today. They deducted 100 from my account. I just might get too much to drink at times, but I think I know when I'm typing in 100 bucks. The online bill said I had a credit of 76.48. So why did they cut me off? So I could spend 1 hr on hold? Said would give me a refund in 30 days. So they use my flappin money for weeks.

PA doesn’t have regional motor vehicle offices, there is only one, in Harrisburg, and everything was supposed to be handled by mail, for most of the state.
What actually happened was private Tag services sprang up that sent a courier up to Harrisburg every day or at least several times a week.
For a fee, they would take care of the paperwork and bring your tags back, in a day or two. A few years ago the state authorized these tag services to issue temporary plates on the spot and lately, some have been doing almost everything “online” with computers and FAX machines.

I bought my truck on 11-12-05 in NJ and they gave me temporary, non-resident, 20 day tags. On 11-16-05 I went to the tag service and gave them the Manufacturer’s Certificate of Origin, the Bill of Sale, a check made out to PAdot for $2400 sales tax and cash to pay for the service and transfer my tags from the car.

They said I couldn’t transfer the tags because I needed truck tags but I could trade the car tags in for credit because I’d just renewed them. They said, drive on the car tags and carry my copy of the paperwork, until the title came from the state in the mail. Then come back and get my truck tags which they can’t issue without a title.

Now I’ve been through this many times, as a matter of fact I could have told them what the drill is. I also know it takes about two months for the title to come, plus I figured with the holidays, a little longer.

In the middle of January, I start looking for the title. By the end of January I’m wondering where the hell it is. But if I asked the tag service, they’ll say it’s up to the state, they have no control over it and come back when the title comes. So I went to the state web site which said, if it hasn’t been ninety days, don’t bother us.

On February 28th I emailed the state giving them the dates, names, numbers and asking where my title is? They replied they needed the reference number stamped on the check, which had been cashed on 11-21-05.
I don’t know about where you are, but around here we don’t get our checks back, just a miniature picture of the front of the check. Of course I need the back of the check so off to the bank for a photostat.

The photostat had no reference number, just a “For Deposit Only” stamp with an account number. When I told the state, they sent me back to the tag service.

The tag service made all kinds of dumb excuses like, they wrote in my middle name and I signed with my initial, and the state kicked it back the second time because the tag service had overcharged me $15. I growled.

This was Monday. Tuesday they called to say they had my tags.....and $15. Wednesday, I got the title in the mail, not from the state, from the service???
The sales tax receipt said the sale date was 2-28 and the application made on 3-7-06.
I still don’t know who had the $2400 for four months.:right:

I got my order the day after the guy said he'd figured out what was going on and shipped it. So, in that respect, it was shipped properly.

Going back to this post. http://cellar.org/showthread.php?t=1...ht=thermometer . Which reads like this. The polderonline site states that they're not part of Polder inc. Yes I got it for use in smoker and bbq. But way down in the fine print, it says not to use for that. WTF That's why I bought the damn thing.

Well, for $20, you could get one of these from Circuit City. I bought one for my BBQ.

I bought one and have used it 2 time. Getting ready for drunk chicken today. I see that the probe pulgin is not very snug. Great so far. Also see their on sale for 16.?? now

For $16 get a couple extra and put them away. ;)

A non-scientific test of the 2 that I have. 1. A polder, which give the temp. in oven, smoker what ever and the meat.
2. Is a Nexxtech.Which is wierless, great. The photo show the diffrence? hell I can't spell the word that I'm thinking of. Take your pick.

I see the 9 degree difference. What were the probes stuck into? If it's meat, different parts could have different temperatures.

A quick test would be to fill a mug with hot water and use a rubber band to put the probes together side by side so that the tips are right next to each other, then drop them in the water. If you still get a 9 degree difference then one of the probes is wrong.

The only way to tell which one is right is by dropping in an old fashioned candy thermometer.

BTW, how does the Polder know the temperature that your oven is set to? Do you program that in or is there some interface?

I've heard mostly complaints about polder on a number of bbq sites.

Or both. ;)
I wonder if they own most of the market? There was a time when 90% of the time I heard about a commercial plane crash, it was a Boeing plane.....but 90% of the commercial planes flying, were Boeing's.

I take your point, Bruce. What I should have said is, "of all the comments I read about Polder products, the vast majority are negative".

Having said that I should add that I see more positive comments for the Maverick items, but they also get their chops busted a lot.

I find a good instant-read thermometer does the job for me.

A common way to check the accuracy is to put the probe into boiling water. It should read 212 degrees (unless you are at high altitude).

I stated, A non-scientific test of the 2 that I have. They were in 2 diffrent birds. Yes Rich you can program the temp in. I know about the 212 thing and that ice water is 32.