Here's the thing. Much like Trump opponents, the arguments against are orthogonal to the arguments for.

The opposite side of "Guns kill people" is NOT "No, they don't." Instead, it's "Yes, but the minute we give them up the government will become a dictatorship." Now, you can say that argument is stupid (and it is,) but the way to convince the big Second Amendment folks is not to keep pointing out how senselessly dangerous guns are. That's a necessary evil in their minds. The trick is to convince them that their little AR-15 is NOT the deciding factor in whether Hitler, Jr. takes over America.

Mine is, because it's a rare 7.62 x 39, not some puny .223 round like the Army guys. I know because I've got a lot of Army guys, Mom's always telling me to pick up and put in the box, before Pop steps on one with his bare feet. I'll save 'Merica from that Nazi nogoodnik. :lol2:

I must be a child because tw and Robocop are the only adults in the whole country.

Clearly you are not a child. Look at the size of your penis. Amazing what .223 and and 7.62 mm rounds can do to upgrade a child into a man. Since only a man can put quarter inch holes in other people.

Clearly you are safer because your penis and holes are bigger. Size matters.

Real men have brains - and use them.

Ok, which would better?

To have a big penis with a little hole, or a small penis with a really big hole?

How'd we get to penis holes again?

There are a few more vidz RE: this tragedy on the TYT channel if anyone would like to view them.

Depends on your fluid intake.
That's not so important as your lead intake.
Some real men using their brains in Orlando somehow forgot that.
Guess they weren't worried about a government dictatorship.
Guess they weren't worried about lead from other sources.
Ignorance is bliss, sometimes permanently.

Extremists know their followers must be told how to think. There followers will only believe the first thing told. So Trump and Bill O'Reilly immediately blame immigrants or Isis for a massacre in Orlando.

No facts say that. That adult who was a child had a long history of alliance with all kinds of wacko extremist mentalities. But that is irrelevant to extremists such as Ann Coulter. They must be the first to connect a "Them verses Us" rationalization. Since the brainwashed only know and remember the first thing they are told.

Where is this Isis or illegal immigrant connection. Ann Coulter is even claiming gangs have taken over our city streets. So how many still listen to these wacko extremists? What day are they now saying the world will end?

This is a nice story.

It'll be interesting to see if/how it changes his political fortunes in Utah.

Apparently the shooter was himself, gay? Ana, Sam, and Kenny break it down here.

In My Thoughts and Prayers

Wait a minute, LGBTQ? That's new to me. I can't keep up. :facepalm:

"If" presenting a condition, and "cannot be denied" entirely unconditional. In the very same sentence. Why would one write a shitty sentence like that? Here's why,

While at the same time we MUST PLAINLY admit that on day one, we don't understand this event, because on its face it is pretty much incomprehensible,

And it came from a psychology that we don't understand and a culture we are only partly familiar with,

It is important for us to believe we DO understand, because our brains need a narrative for it. All things need explanation.

And in 2016 the narrative is political. So,

~ This is where we are now ~ if we don't understand, at least we can have opinions which nobody can safely disagree with; and we can blame others, which comforts us and makes us feel superior.

To me, it is an offensive reaction to the event. People are dead and you want to make a point. But fine, it's 2016, have fun being all political.

Q=Queer
A bit of a catch-all (which isn't to say that it will prevent future letters from being added).

It's common to phrase "given X, Y" as an "if, as we know, X, then Y".

Madness is incomprehensible, almost by definition, so to the extent that mental illness played a part, it's incomprehensible.

But the claim that gays are evil and dangerous, and are destroying our society, is not some foreign culture issue. The idea that gays deserve death is not some outside thing. There are plenty of Americans, even ones without immigrant parents, who grew up in that environment.

I agree that it ought not be a political issue, but that's only possible when a large majority of politicians agree. It wasn't an issue when they all agreed to condemn gays, and now it is. It will remain a political issue until consensus is again formed, hopefully in the other direction.

This reads to me as "don't talk about issues when they're most relevant." It's precisely what the poem is about; during the immediate aftermath this tragedy, the politicians want to offer empty thoughts and prayers, and once it blows over, go back to claiming that gays are a threat to civilization.