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classicman 05-08-2009 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by TheMercenary (Post 563813)
Hey, I was just piling on.

But you are all alone in that pile. :eyebrow:

TheMercenary 05-08-2009 12:38 PM

I say put them all on a bus and send them to Washington D. C. and drop them off in front of the White House en mass.

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Obama budget nixes aid for jailing illegal immigrants
By Ian Swanson and Walter Alarkon
Posted: 05/08/09 09:24 AM [ET]
President Obama voted in the Senate to provide additional funding for a program targeted for elimination by his budget that provides states a federal subsidy to offset the costs of jailing illegal immigrants.

Killing the State Criminal Alien Assistance Program (SCAPP) would save $400 million, according to Obama's budget for fiscal 2010 released Thursday. It's one of the largest non-defense discretionary cuts proposed in the president's budget.



The program is popular with border-state politicians on Capitol Hill, however, making its elimination a tough sell to lawmakers, particularly from California.

Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D-Calif.) has repeatedly pushed for additional funding for the program, and lawmakers from other states that have costs associated with illegal aliens have also offered support.

A bipartisan trio of House members from California have drafted a letter urging the House Appropriations subcommittee on Commerce, Justice, Science and Related Agencies to restore funding for the SCAAP program. The three members, Reps. Mike Honda (D), Adam Schiff (D) and Jerry Lewis, the top Republican on the Appropriations Committee, are also asking the rest of the California House delegation to sign the letter, Honda's office said.

As an Illinois senator, Obama co-sponsored an amendment offered by then-Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton (D-N.Y.), now Obama's secretary of state, that would have provided additional funding for the program. It also would have established a grant program to defray local government healthcare and education costs for non-citizens.

"Each year, the SCAAP program is underfunded," Clinton said in 2006 comments urging support for her amendment. She cited a 2005 Government Accountability Office study that found local governments get only 25 percent of their costs reimbursed through the program.

"Throughout our country and in my state, there are counties and municipalities that are covering the costs of dealing with education, healthcare, and law enforcement without adequate or any federal reimbursement," Clinton said. "So we have left our local and state governments to fend for themselves. They should not be left to bear these costs alone because it is not they who are making federal immigration policy."

Another Obama Cabinet member, Interior Secretary Ken Salazar, then a senator from Colorado, was also a co-sponsor.

Obama voted for the amendment, but it was defeated 43-52.

Mark Krikorian of the Center for Immigration Studies, a group that has called for tougher border security, predicted it is "very unlikely" that Obama's proposal to cut the program will be accepted by Congress. He noted that the Bush administration repeatedly tried to zero out the program, but always ran into opposition in Congress.

"It's hard to justify getting rid of it honestly," Krikorian said. "It's a necessary program because the federal government is reimbursing states and localities for the federal government's own mistakes."

Krikorian, like Clinton in 2006, argued immigration enforcement is a federal responsibility, and if state and local jails are incarcerating illegal immigrants, it is because of failed federal policies.

According to the fiscal 2010 budget, Obama's administration thinks resources used for the program could be better used to enhance federal efforts to curb illegal immigration.

"In place of SCAAP, the administration proposes a comprehensive border enforcement strategy that supports resources for a comprehensive approach to enforcement along the nation's borders that combines law enforcement and prosecutorial efforts to investigate arrest, detail, and prosecute illegal immigrants and other criminals," the budget states.

It emphasizes that the budget will provide funding for an additional 20,000
Border Patrol agents, and an additional $1.4 billion for Immigration and Customs Enforcement programs to support the quick identification and removal of illegal aliens who commit crimes in the U.S.

The Office of Management and Budget did not respond when contacted about this story.
http://thehill.com/leading-the-news/...009-05-08.html

TheMercenary 05-08-2009 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by classicman (Post 563838)
But you are all alone in that pile. :eyebrow:

Use to it. No surprise there. Nor do I care much anymore.

classicman 05-08-2009 12:49 PM

Well, that was a poor attempt at humor on my part - you really can't have a one-man pile now can you?

TheMercenary 05-08-2009 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by classicman (Post 563855)
you really can't have a one-man pile now can you?

I wouldn't think so but I am sure someone here will debate that with you. :D

Tiki 05-08-2009 05:53 PM

http://www.superpoop.com/050509/frowny-face.jpg

:(

TheMercenary 05-11-2009 10:16 AM

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CBS Sports golf analyst David Feherty apologized Sunday to House Speaker Nancy Pelosi and Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid for a morbid joke that went bad in a Dallas magazine.

"Despite how the conflict has been portrayed by our glorious media, if you gave any U.S. soldier a gun with two bullets in it, and he found himself in an elevator with Nancy Pelosi, Harry Reid and Osama bin Laden, there's a good chance that Nancy Pelosi would get shot twice, and Harry Reid and bin Laden would be strangled to death."

Feherty, a former Ryder Cup player who grew up in Northern Ireland, has gone to Iraq over Thanksgiving the past two years to visit with U.S. troops, and he created a foundation to help wounded soldiers.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009...llas-magazine/

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Not funny: Barack Obama laughs at Wanda Sykes "joke" about wanting Rush Limbaugh dead

What was Wanda Sykes thinking? Perhaps more to the point, what was President Barack Obama thinking when he laughed and smiled as the comedienne wished Rush Limbaugh dead?

Although the Left is reporting her White House Correspondents' Dinner speech as "taking shots" at Limbaugh and mocking everyone, that's a gross misrepresentation of what turned into a hateful and disgusting diatribe.
http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/toby_ha..._limbaugh_dead

classicman 05-11-2009 10:55 AM

Saying she wished him dead is a serious stretch, but hey if thats all they got to go with... I wish them luck.

tw 05-11-2009 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by classicman (Post 564784)
Saying she wished him dead is a serious stretch,

Death of Limbaugh could only be good for Republicans. The party could then stop infighting - have leadership - stop self-destructing as extremists such as Limbaugh drive smarter (moderate) Republicans from the party.

Some need Limbaugh to lead a charge forward into political destruction. This Republican Party self-destruction means more harm to America.

sugarpop 05-12-2009 11:37 AM

So it's OK for people on the right to wish Ted Kennedy dead, but it isn't OK for a comedian to wish Rush Limbaugh dead? Ok, got it.

classicman 05-12-2009 11:45 AM

Cite some examples of that sugar.

Shawnee123 05-12-2009 11:53 AM

It's OK...the universe balances out: Cheney singing Limbaugh's praises to Bob Schieffer (who couldn't contain a grin) as the evil forces continue to blow each other.

Wanda Sykes is a comedienne: she also ripped on Michelle "look at you pattin' the queen on the back like you just slid into home."

I don't think poor Mr Limbaugh really gives a shit, and if he does he can just pop another oxy.

And a dead Limbaugh isn't such a bothersome thought. So sue me.

Pie 05-12-2009 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Shawnee123 (Post 565143)
And a dead Limbaugh isn't such a bothersome thought. So sue me.

Yes, but they smell. :turd:

Shawnee123 05-12-2009 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Pie (Post 565147)
Yes, but they smell. :turd:

LIM-baugh, LIM-burger...coincidence? I think not.

:lol:

TheMercenary 05-30-2009 01:51 AM

If these guys were white the press would have hung them.

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Justice Department political appointees overruled career lawyers and ended a civil complaint accusing three members of the New Black Panther Party for Self-Defense of wielding a nightstick and intimidating voters at a Philadelphia polling place last Election Day, according to documents and interviews.

The incident - which gained national attention when it was captured on videotape and distributed on YouTube - had prompted the government to sue the men, saying they violated the 1965 Voting Rights Act by scaring would-be voters with the weapon, racial slurs and military-style uniforms.

Career lawyers pursued the case for months, including obtaining an affidavit from a prominent 1960s civil rights activist who witnessed the confrontation and described it as "the most blatant form of voter intimidation" that he had seen, even during the voting rights crisis in Mississippi a half-century ago.
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/...cube_position1


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