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plthijinx 01-19-2012 02:33 PM
and ironically now (per the pic i posted) i'm doing grounding layout and installation drawings now for a site in west texas. maybe i should include that pic as to what NOT to do! lol

kero, i don't have time to explain but i did find this link

kerosene 01-19-2012 03:10 PM
okay, okay, I get it now.

Gravdigr 01-19-2012 04:37 PM
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Originally Posted by HungLikeJesus (Post 788995)
There are? Like what?
I believe Fiat sells one in Europe. The non-U.S. version of the Fiat 500 that J.Lo does a commercial for, I believe does 55 mpg. Straight diesel.

I think. There are others, VW maybe.

I think they are considerably cheaper than a Prius, but, that may be due to the Prius' availability, or lack thereof.

Scriveyn 01-20-2012 10:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Pete Zicato (Post 789234)
Some pertinent information:

Half of all people are below median.

....
FTFY ;)

HungLikeJesus 01-20-2012 10:32 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Gravdigr (Post 789274)
I believe Fiat sells one in Europe. The non-U.S. version of the Fiat 500 that J.Lo does a commercial for, I believe does 55 mpg. Straight diesel.

I think. There are others, VW maybe.

I think they are considerably cheaper than a Prius, but, that may be due to the Prius' availability, or lack thereof.
As long as you're sure.

monster 01-20-2012 11:42 AM
What mileage does the European Prius get, though? Laden or Unladen.


Apples and Oranges.

footfootfoot 01-20-2012 11:50 AM
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Originally Posted by HungLikeJesus (Post 789421)
As long as you're sure.
SNORT

monster 01-20-2012 12:50 PM
we need a snorticon

Gravdigr 01-20-2012 03:30 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by HungLikeJesus (Post 789421)
As long as you're sure.
Heheh! I'm sure about hardly anything these days...and unsure more and more.

Quote:
Originally Posted by monster (Post 789462)
What mileage does the European Prius get, though? Laden or Unladen.


Apples and Oranges.
...and coconuts!:lol2:

Gravdigr 01-20-2012 03:33 PM
Speaking of laden or unladen...ya could prolly put the Fiat in the trunk of the Prius...

GunMaster357 01-21-2012 10:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Gravdigr (Post 789532)
Speaking of laden or unladen...ya could prolly put the Fiat in the trunk of the Prius...
It's a very small car that has the dubious honor to be call a "yogurt pot" in French. It's a special category that regroup small cars. Usually, those not requiring a licence to drive. The FIAT 500 does require one.

Of course, "yogurt pot" is a polite way to put it. Personally I much prefer to call them "bus suppositories".

Other than that, it's a very nice city car: good mileage, enough space to get 2 or 3 children to school, small enough to park nearly everywhere and very manoeuverable.

Not a good car for long distance travel: small trunk(boot), not very powerful engine.

infinite monkey 01-21-2012 12:53 PM
'Bus suppository.' I like that.

Making my way home last night through the increasing freezing rain I saw a guy driving a smart car. Man those are tiny. Here I am in a little bug with a canvas roof and I felt safer than I would have felt driving that tiny thing. Cute, though.

HungLikeJesus 01-21-2012 01:52 PM
Are you more concerned about the length or the diameter?

BigV 01-22-2012 12:28 AM
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Originally Posted by GunMaster357 (Post 789672)
It's a very small car that has the dubious honor to be call a "yogurt pot" in French. It's a special category that regroup small cars. Usually, those not requiring a licence to drive. The FIAT 500 does require one.

Of course, "yogurt pot" is a polite way to put it. Personally I much prefer to call them "bus suppositories".

Other than that, it's a very nice city car: good mileage, enough space to get 2 or 3 children to school, small enough to park nearly everywhere and very manoeuverable.

Not a good car for long distance travel: small trunk(boot), not very powerful engine.
Sat in one the other day, my head sticks through the sunroof by about 2 or 3 inches. Not a lot of room inside. By comparison, the Smart fortwo has plenty of room (well a finger or two) between my head and the inside of the roof. If I have to slouch to drive it, I'd rather walk, thanks.

Cute as hell, though.

Sundae 01-22-2012 07:49 AM
Oranges and Lemons, said the bells of St Clements...


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