Exactly. Except for thinking people. ;)

Stimulus jobs in Ohio:

http://www.whiotv.com/money/24426369/detail.html

A bleaker outlook for economy into 2011

Then for the good news ...
Ass Press

Imagine that... the Dems are bankrupting this country.:earth:

Yeh well we collectively are "this country"

Reactionary Affliction -- a philosophical treatise of sorts, the kind of thing you find on bright boys' blogs.

Ohio and Indiana have more member of the KKK than the South.

Pretty funny...

Robert Gibbs says leftwing critics of Obama 'ought to be drug tested'
White House press secretary Robert Gibbs says Obama's critics on the left are 'crazy' - and then tries to apologise


http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/rich...-critics-obama

When the WHPressSec speaks,
I get the image of someone buried up to their neck on a beach at the high tide mark,
with an incoming tide and a sand storm blowing out to sea.

Did you always feel that way Lamp, or is it just towards this particular one? Please enlighten us.

I think more of a Muppet.

Oh, I am certainly on the liberal side of almost everything,
but I don't know if that translates into sand or seawater.

I think the surprise here was the vehemence of Gibbs remark,
maybe he even surprised himself, and it was certainly beyond
what we "crazy" lefties would have expected.

But I'm not particularly worked up about this episode because
it's just the natural time-progression of each administration's perspective on the press.
(Remember Nixon's final: "You won't have Nixon to kick around any more...")

Oh yea. Me too. :D

But really, the whole WH press conferences have become a big joke.

I guess this fits here. Apparently, the misdirection crowd has successfully convinced 18% of Americans that Obama is a Muslim. ( I think he's a cryto-Catholic myself since most of his schooling in Indonesia was Catholic. ;)) Apparently the Manhattan mosque thing is costing him the support of people who would never support him.

lol @ griff - Yeh those who hate him hate him more? So what?

All this is doing is pushing the two extremes further apart.

The 8/28 rally at the Washington Mall may mark the beginning of the end for the Obama régime.

But Griff, what about Sarah? Secretary of state?

I snuck it there, Pico, sorry. :D

lol...I hate when that happens.

Although Muttley would snigger at a lot of those NON -answers to specific questions. Take away their talking points and they don't know squat.

Well I guess it was a pretty good turn out for ole Beck. The election results should be interesting.

President Obama Reacts to August Jobs Numbers, Doesn't Mention Net Job Loss of 54K

http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpu...ss-of-54k.html

Look out for that great big elephant in the room. At the current rate of re-employment it will take over 6 years to get relief. Anyone ready to wait that long? I'm not.

Merc, you have miraculously been made Uber-President...
What is your first decision to create jobs ?

Can I answer that one?

Is Obama anesthetizing people while Merc's thinking up his answer? This could get ugly...

No need for Merc to be the only one to answer...

No need for anyone to get ugly...

I believe a genuine discussion could be a good thing.

Well if were king I would have line item veto and scratch each and every single pork barrel item from every spending bill for the 4 years of my reign, regardless of party affiliation. Pork stops now (you know, sort of like Pelosi promised in 2006 and Obama promised in 2008). A true stop gap spending belt tightening. We have to balance our check book they should have to balance the governments. I never would have lied to the electorate and told them that the boondoggle spending bill was going to create "millions of shovel ready jobs". I would have saved all that money and put it back into the economy. I would never have passed that boondoggle healthcare bill, that money would go back into the economy. I would not inact the new taxes by rolling back the Bush tax cuts, I would change the whole system to a Fair Tax. No more free lunch. SOME 47% of the nation paid no federal income taxes! (tax policy center). ( http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...524326290.html ) Allow business, large and small, any opportunity to grow to stimulate job creation. Business makes jobs, government does not do a good job of making jobs. Until we wake up and see that government is not the answer to job grown we are going to muddle along mired down in stagnation. Government threw all that money at the banking system, right? And what did they do with it? They held onto it, and they are still holding onto it. Now they are trying to inact a bill to get them to lend it. It is crazy. Poke through the Stimulus bill and see how many jobs were directly created from each dollar, one figure I read was it cost the government aprox $220,000 per job created. Hell that money could have allowed a small business to add 10 employee's in some cases, if the number is accurate. Look at the housing bailout. What if they allowed all of the middleman companies to fail and just set up a program which evaluated every person who was in default and just paid off the loan for those who qualify? It would have been cheaper than the approach they took. If a person could save their house they might have been able to keep their job or at least make it quite a while without one. The rest would go to bankruptcy court and take their licks, get ready to find an small apartment within your means. Now the question is, did we just delay the inevitable? Have we really hit bottom yet? I don't know. But unchecked spending and growing deficit spending is not the answer IMHO. I certainly don't have the answers or I would be King! I no longer trust this government to fix what is broken.

Boortz.

Business as usual in Congress I see....

WOW Merc ! That's one heck of a "first decision" !

Let me pull out just one part of all that because I think I'm in complete agreement...

From what I've read and heard, the underlying road block to creating jobs right away is the part about banks having been bailed out in 2009 because that they had stopped providing credit to businesses. When businesses can't get loans to meet their needs, they can't keep up with inventories, payrolls, etc., and so employees lose their jobs.

In a nutshell, if banks were not sitting on those huge cash reserves and were not involved in using Federal Reserve Bank loans for "their own investment purposes", but instead were doing what banks are supposed to do (lend $) then the downward spiral might be reversed.

So, if the King would step aside and allow me to become Uber-President,
My one first decision would be to break apart the "banking activities" from the "investment activities".
That is, force a return of banks to what they used to be, and support them via the FDIC.
The FDIC should not be used to help with management's poor investment decisions.

The was a single law passed that allowed banks to get into the stock market, but I don't remember the name or year. But I think that was the beginning of all this mess.
Whatever that law was, the first thing would be to repeal that law.

Federal Reserve Bank funds should be used only for "lending/credit/monetary policies ".
Only stock-holder should funds be used for "the private investment" activities.
That is, make the stock holders take the risks and profits that come from short term management decisions.

If I could further direct the lending activities of banks, I would set first priorities at freeing credit (loans) to big, BIG, corporations because they can re-hire thousands of employees quickly, whereas starting up or re-starting thousands of small businesses is a much longer term project. After all, it was the big BIG corporations that laid off thousands of workers at a single crack, causes the chain reaction of thousands of people losing income, losing homes, etc.

Once I accomplished all that, I would resign from Uber-President and take nap.

Sorry for the long winded response, but unless we stimulate numerous portions of the economy at once nothing is going to work. Big Government throwing money at the problem has not and does not work. We must end the cycle of dependence on government for everyone's personal shortcomings and failures in life.

It is a big frigging mess. And the last 18 months have proven the current Administration, and the last 3 and 1/2 years of this Congress, have failed to fix what ails us.

Eh, I just want to get off the grid and further circle my wagons.

The talk of job creation is a bit of an administration smoke screen imho. Other goals are being packaged under the jobs heading. It makes sense to do so, I suppose. Moving to a less coal driven and updated national electric grid makes sense and is a nice twofer but will be more of a long-term boon than a short-term jobs deal. Of course if they focused on real short term jobs creation they' be criticized for that, since the complaining is largely partisan. *shrug*

Merc....your first action, a line-item veto, might work in your kingdom but is unconstitutional in the US, at least the versions attempted since the Reagan days.

And I'm not sure what you mean by "allow businesses to grow" (cutting regs? which ones?) or "putting money back into the economy" (more tax cuts that cut more revenue from the Treasury?) That would create more debt.

IMO, the stimulus package was misdirected at an attempt to build broader consensus. Nearly two thirds were not really intended as stimulus (small personal tax cuts, funding for UI extension, COBRA assistance, etc). I would have separated those programs and put much more funding into short-term job creation with the understanding that creating jobs with govt funding leads to a growing economy that creates additional jobs.

And I agree with lamplighter about the banks. W/o the TARP program (most of which has been repaid), manyy more banks would have failed and credit would have tightened even more, causing more small businesses to fail.

There is a growing consensus among economists that the stimulus and TARP prevented the economy from tanking even more:

Economists agree: Stimulus created nearly 3 million jobs

The economy has stabilized as a result of several actions - TARP, ARRA, Fed policy .It is growing, but at a slower rate than anyone would like.

Is the stimulus program a failure? IMO, only in the sense that it did not go far enough.

But in any case, opinions are probably driven more by politics than economics.

That is why I said if I were King.

The stimulus was a failure and a boondoggle of spending. Unemployment still at 9.6% after months of lies.

To damm funny!!! What a tool.

Oval Office rug gets history wrong

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...090305100.html

CBS
I found thin more than surprising. I hadn't thought the situation near this drastic.

Everyone made Obama's comments yesterday in Milwaukee sound like he was being a dick...really?

And people think the media has a liberal bias...pshaw! It has a sensational bias. But no one listens to me...that's alright...fuck all of you. ;)

You don't like it when he counts census jobs, then you don't like it when he doesn't count them as losses.

Typical cock sucking conservative.

Not actually wrong; King was paraphrasing Parker- King said the quote on the rug, and Parker didn't.

He counted them as a positive and didn't as a negative. Is that what you are saying? If so, then yeh thats pretty crappy. Either count them for both or neither.

As I recall, he counted them both times, noting that the recent unemployment numbers look worse because of the temporary census workers.

but that is not what you just posted.
fixed that for ya.

You're right.
Restatement:
The conservative cocksuckers put a negative spin on the overly-positive effect that the temporary census jobs had on the unemployment figures when they were created, then they put a negative spin on the overly-negative effect that the temporary census jobs had on the unemployment figures when they were disolved.

much more better.

And ...
The Liberal cocksuckers put a overtly-positive spin on the effect that the temporary census jobs had on the unemployment figures when they were created, then they put a overly-positive spin on the effect that the temporary census jobs had on the unemployment figures when they were dissolved.

Liberal Tit Suckers. Get it right.

I got it right.

Arrrh, for 20 years the liberals they suck the tit... then they suck just one little cock, I swear no bigger than this, and they're called the big cocksuckers. Arrrh!

:lol:

Underwear.

:lol:

Plato was of the opinion that the only acceptable leader was one who hated the position; anyone who enjoyed it wasn't suited for the role.

cocksucking, titsucking....why are these insults? both sound good to me!

MTV screening Obama's audience for views, looks
Yeh - like MTV is reaching anyone over 20? Srsly. :eyebrow:
link

Interesting critique on D'Souza: The Real Roots Of Obama's Rage.

Briefly, he thinks they are really Bill Ayers. And it helps to affirm my opinion that Bill Ayers is a damned slug, spending an entire life as consumed by rage as -- as -- as tw in a snit.

I was talking to someone about this book the other day. It has some interesting theories as to why Obama thinks the way he does, but I am not sure it is nothing more than arm-chair psychology when it comes to the conclusions. Still, there may be some truth to it.

What rage?

It's secret rage, just like he's a secret Muslim, you see?

Or he's a secret teabagger. :haha: