i think we should start a new thread...this belongs in religion

Did you purposefully ignore this quoted text then?

I didn't look it up, just reading the thread. But it sure looks that way to me. Unless "I will sacrifice it as a burnt offering" doesn't mean what it sounds like it means...

Quzah.

Update: I'm better than halfway done with this monster. The HTML tags are in, half of the links are in and I checked to see how the test page looks on the cellar (in this format).

This isn't nearly as good of a job as I'd like to crank out, however, I have put a lot of time and effort into it. It will be posted tomorrw regardless of it's completeness (so I can go on to do other things, like sleep).

Someone please kick me squarely in the testicles should I come up with this idea again. Didn't I say that last time I made a mega post?

Of which thread in this tapestry do you speak?:haha:

Ah, the heart of the problem that most of us have with "fundies". Rather than live and let live you want to "save" everyone that doesn't follow your teachings. Historically it's been a short step from wanting to "save" people (poor misguided heathens) and "the end justifies the means" type of proactive missionary.
I'm not saying that you personally would do that, but the religion you support has manifested itself in that form repeatedly and I've never met a Christian Clergy or devout Christian that didn't think they knew what was best for ME.:(

No, what he has shown is there are exceptions. There always was and will be, but that's a tough thing to bet on. With the disappearance of good paying manufacturing jobs the squeeze is getting worse. I most office scenerios you need a degree to get an interview even if they are going to train you to do things their way. Of course you could groom the tyke to marry for money...Oh, he doesn't look like Jim does he? :D

I didn't mean to point that at you. I was trying to make an on-topic example, and made it too simplistic.
Feel free to call me Matthew.

xoxoxoBruce said it already, but I'll take a stab at it, too. That is not a good reason to oppose gay marriage on a governmental level. If you feel the need to save people's souls, the correct route is to prosteletize and attempt to convert people, and then provide religious arguments to members of your church. Religious arguments should not be used to determine public policy. Religious convictions can be a reason for a particular person to look for and make legal arguments, but there are no nonreligious reasons to oppose gay marriage. If your only argument is religious, then you shouldn't be making laws based on it. This is not a theocracy.
Really? I find it very easy. For example, I do not support massive handgun ownership, but I realize it is a right that people have, so I do not oppose it.

To which the boy should have replied: "Fuck you!"

Quzah.

Good grief! Simply outrageous! :rolleyes:

"A 7-year-old boy was scolded and forced to write "I will never use the word 'gay' in school again" after he told a classmate about his lesbian mother, the American Civil Liberties Union alleged Monday."

"A teacher who heard the remark scolded Marcus, telling him "gay" was a "bad word" and sending him to the principal's office. The following week, Marcus had to come to school early and repeatedly write: "I will never use the word 'gay' in school again."

Glad I'm not a parent..they'd have to put me UNDER the jail for what I would do to those bigoted freaks. :mad:

      I'm going to have to disagree with doing anything really nasty, Rho. I think that like, well, all bigotry, this is based on ignorance. Shredding the idiots doesn't solve the problem. Frankly, the school needs to be educated. Educating without the use of physical harm is preferable as it tends to stick in the mind better.

This is rather amusing if you think about it. The teachers had him come to school early and lie repeatedly. Consider writing:

"I will not use the word 'gay' in school again."
"I will not use the word 'gay' in school again."

Ok, the first one is clearly a lie, since you just wrote it after you said you wouldn't. This would repeat until the end of the process. Thus you end up lying N-1 times, where N is the number of times you were instructed to write it.

On a related note, these teachers were definately ignorant, since there's clearly another use for the word 'gay'. Additionally, they'd better hope they don't have to do a report on Marvin Gay or... yeah you get the point. Absurd.

Quzah.

Who will educate the educators?

      Good question, I believe that it is officially the school boards job. It's also the school boards job to make sure they themselve are educated enough to respond properly. So, I doubt any more will come of this. Save, of course, the effect on one boy that has been forced to act in a way that suggests his understanding of the world is bad, bad as in leaning towards evil way. (By writing that crap on the board) Besides, who cares about how badly one boy is hurt when protecting proper moral structure? Can't worry about being good to people when making sure people are good after all. (If you didn't catch the sarcasm in that please put me on your ignore list)