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Originally Posted by piercehawkeye45 (Post 308108)

Can you give a link to that or some proof?

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The United Kingdom dispatched 500,000 ration packs worth EUR 3 million, to the region. However, many of the ration packs did not reach victims due to laws regarding mad cow disease[29]. It also offered medical experts, Urban Search and Rescue equipment, Marine engineers and high-volume pumps, skilled personnel including engineers who could support recovery efforts for installations and systems, technicians, staff trained in disaster management and emergency response activities. It also pledged to release an extra 2.2 million barrels of oil.

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Kelly Air Force Base in San Antonio, Texas received almost 196 Mexican troops, 14 truckloads of water, a mobile surgical unit, 45 military vehicles, 3 tons of purified water, and more than 250 tons of food, bottled water, canned food, disposable diapers and medical supplies. The Mexican Government sent $1 million through the Mexican Red Cross which collected an additional million, as well as 200 tons of food delivered in five airplanes from the Mexican Air Force by another Mexican Government body. The Mexican Navy sent two ships, 385 troopers, eight all-terrain vehicles, seven amphibious vehicles, two tankers, two helicopters, radio communication equipment, medical personnel and 296 tons of food as well.

Oh, wait, here's some refusal!

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France - Concrete help was refused by the government initially

...but then...

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on September 2, Condoleezza Rice said that the US authorities would assess the situation and contact French authorities accordingly. On September 4, US authorities formally requested French assistance. France offered disaster relief stocks prepositioned in Martinique (600 tents, around 1000 beds, 60 electrogenic groups, 3 pumps, 3 water purification stations, 1000 folding jerricanes and other material). A 35-person team of the Sécurité civile (Civil defence) from Guadeloupe and Martinique were made ready, and a 60-man "catastrophe intervention" aeromobile detachment were prepared to be ferried from mainland in a short time. The Ministry of Defence offered 2 planes already in the zone and 6 more from mainland France, and two ships of the French Navy (probably the BATRAL Francis Garnier or Champlain, and the frigate Ventôse) and a 20-person team of emergency medical specialists. The non-governmental organisation Télécoms sans frontières and the company Véolia environnement offered aid in communications and water management, respectively. On September 7, the Ministry for Foreign Affairs stated that an Airbus Beluga from Toulouse with 12,7 tonnes of supplies flew to Mobile, Alabama, after a brief stop in the UK to load more food.[8] Two Casa airplanes from Martinique landed in Little Rock, Arkansas, ferrying tents, covers and 1000 rations of food for 24 hours.

What a crock of shit.

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Originally Posted by tw (Post 307875)

You called other nations shitbags because you did not see their help after trivial hurricanes in FL? Well, when America REALLY needed help, then others offered it. Help was rejected. Did you ask how many times such assistance from Bahamas was also rejected? Or did you automatically assume all other nations are scum until proven otherwise - the classic Fox News assumption?

Katrina demonstrates exactly why you did not see foreign assistance during 'normal' hurricanes. Why did you post nonsense – that I did not answer your question? Damning fact called Katrina even demonstrates why foreign assistance is not permitted in FL. Why do you forget those facts? Did you consult responsible news sources – or do you believe hate promoted by Limbaugh and Fox News?

Why would other nations be permitted to offer assistance when the mental midget would not even let them help in New Orleans? This question is never asked by the mental midget supporters who believe Fox News, CBN, or Limbaugh.

Shame on you for not immediately understanding the lessons of Katrina. Your post was answered brutally correct. Katrina demonstrates why you don’t see foreign assistance in FL. Only a disciple of Fox New hate would have promoted so much contempt for the countrymen of Billy and Sundae Girl.

You have no idea what you are talking about... I lived those storms, all of them, disabled with an infant, and the aftermath. Water shortages, in heat that many of you have never known, no power, many areas flooded, roads closed for weeks, some for months, no repairs for months... things you cannot imagine. People doing horrible and wonderful things, but NONE of it trivial...
My neighbor died in those storms.
Trivial?
You are a fool, what is worse, an armchair, ignorant fool.
I am done with you.

Thank you Kitsune, finally some actual facts.

Is it just me, or does tw live a life of absolutely nothing but joyless negativity?

But, by way of returning to topic, Saddam's hanged and gone, and now his chief of secret police and close relative Barzan Ibrahim is just as dead whether he be in one piece or two.

Huzzah! Good riddance. People of decency, rejoice; the people of its opposite are put out of countenance.

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Originally Posted by Urbane Guerrilla (Post 308254)

Is it just me...

Yes.

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Originally Posted by Urbane Guerrilla (Post 308254)

Is it just me

No.

I'm watching a Jason movie (some number, prob. fourty-two), he's gettin' his Pepi Le Peu on... this is fun.

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Originally Posted by Urbane Guerrilla (Post 308254)

Is it just me, or does tw live a life of absolutely nothing but joyless negativity?

I was going to give him a BJ b/c he got a math answer right and he seemed pretty ok with that--but THEN i thought: hey, tw might very well be a chick! so, I never followed-thru with the offer and (s)he, sadly, never came thru with air faire. Then I thought, if tw is a guy, he's a weird guy--like Mel in Conspiracy Theory, etc. and do I really want to offer my oral services to yet another nut case? so. You see the problem(s) with tw.

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Originally Posted by Brianna (Post 308475)

do I really want to offer my oral services for a nut case?

Regardless of his mental status, wasn't that your original plan? :)

Hey... it's been a while now since he's been murdered. Everything's all better now, right?

I think I just entered the twilight zone

Nah. You just fell down the Cellar stairs. We really should change that bulb.

Brianna, I think you were actually on pretty safe ground, AC- or DC-wise -- women don't sound like tw. However, on aesthetic grounds, you may have balked: men who are handsome, and do handsome, don't sound much like tw either.

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Originally Posted by Brianna (Post 308475)

You see the problem(s) with tw.

Yeph. She got the facts correct again. Foreigners did offer assistance despite . And those hurricanes that made rkzenrage's hair drier non-fuctional were not category five - just normal FL hurricanes. Those damn ugly foreigners actually are just as generous - many are more generous - than Americans. I don't care what you think of me. But you forgot to mention the important part; that tw accurately identifed misinformation from yesman065. Who conventiently forgot about the Indian Ocean tsunami or the ongoing problems in Darfur and Chad when insisting "we help every freakin body all the time". Yesman065 posted what naive adults do when describing non-Americans as only second class humans. tw- she does not have that same hate of non-Americans as posted by yesman065. Instead she learns facts not based in Rush type specualtions. Instead she respects our friends in other nations.

When he gets older and unlearns extremist biases, then maybe yesman065 will do same.

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Originally Posted by tw (Post 308649)

... just normal FL hurricanes....
Those damn ugly foreigners actually are just as generous - many are more generous - than Americans. I don't care what you think of me... ...forgot about the Indian Ocean tsunami or the ongoing problems in Darfur and Chad... when describing non-Americans as only second class humans

Hmmm, AGAIN I have to correct the lies, BS and misinformation posted by tw - instead of dealing with the actual discussion at hand. This is growing most tiresome.

1) just normal FL hurricanes - well I guess thats one way to look at it - you obviously never experienced one! Perhaps next season rkzenrage can invite you down for a truly uplifting experience -

2) I didn't forget any of these. I repeatedly asked you to refute my statement. You, tw, have continually been unable to do so. *as usual* Post actual numbers in American dollars, or some other equal currency, showing the total amount of aid given by the US and the other countries. If not -then STFU and apologize as you should. Man up when you are wrong.

3)NEVER did I describe anyone as a 2nd class human, well maybe you are, but you really don't count since you're an emotionless Vulcan.
I have more friends and family from all over the world than you have any idea about. Don't prejudge me and make assumptions about my age nor maturity either. You have no idea who or what I am about.

SERIOUSLY I take personal offense to you making false accusations about me, posting untruths and, tw, outright lies.
SERIOUSLY