Yes, thank you, UT! I liked this thread when I started it, it had a cute name and you could dance to it, but then dov screwed it all up. A million thanks and big kiss! I hated that schmendrick.

What's a "schmendrick"? Yeah, I'm glad that I can come back to this thread now and any other one here without stepping into a big nasty pile of poo. Thanks, UT!

Similar to a schmuck, only incapable of erection.

and akin to a schlmiel or a schmazel

similar to a schmeg-head?

I think its 'smeg', not 'schmeg'.

Wasn't Shmendrick in The Last Unicorn?

you reckon? ;)

Down here we say smegma head.

. smegma -- (a white secretion of the sebaceous glands of the foreskin) :vomitblu:

Or maybe smeeee-heeee...

But Red Dwarf is the Bible on this particular term of endearment ;)

Smeeee-heeeee it is.... :lol:

I joined The Cellar a little while ago, havent posted much, but I pop in now and again to read the odd new thread. Ive just gone through the Thread Dov was banned on and saw this one mentioned. I HAD to see what he had posted. Ohh My Oh myyy. LOL

Clearing up a couple of minor details from the other thread.. noooo Dov is most definately not female.. :mg: 6ft 3in and built like a brick shithouse I think is a phrase that comes to mind. Sorry to disappoint again, nooo he isnt a teen either.. he is 50 :lol:

I grant you he can be very odd, sorry the pictures upset you, good thing he didnt put his portfolio up for a look see. :eek: Some of it can be disturbing his sculptures range from breathtakingly beautiful to grotesque. My favourite is "The Angel Gabriel" to pieces which make your knees give way.... and then his life size "Isaac" . A deeply disturbing sculpture of a female breast, embedded with broken rusty razor blades.. I remember he was banned for showing that on one site. The marxist feminists went BATSHIT over it.. They were reduced to calling him a Patriarchal oppresive mysogynist Kike* I believe.. got very nasty.. He had created it when his mother was having chemo for Breast cancer.. I suppose some art just isnt acceptable... well to some it is he sold it for 6 figures. On the other hand you missed out. He works only on commisioned work. So the chances of maybe getting a look is slim.

Good thing is you now have another useful Clique code.. BARAK? That will be great fun. I noticed when I registered there are a LOT of members.. sorry they didnt fit in. Seems to be the same chosen few who post ... You will miss Dov, most sites he leaves or get banned from do. It is though your haven, your lair, you cosy safe place, you're right to defend it, nurture it. I sincerely hope it continues to be all you want it to be.. Considering the reality outside this lovely padded cell, I can understand why.


.. but I am sure I could have been a BARAK :worried:

Let the cosy , warm fuzzy, cliquey, bonding, hilariously witty reparteeeee begin ;)

Personal real time friend of Dovid.. Irena

PS Im also a damned Furriner from Yurp ARGHHHHHHHH LOL

get over it.

Well, "Irena", thank you for showing up at this most opportune moment to defend Dov. Newcomers never appear on a board and immediently jump into the middle of a past controversy involving other members. But you're the exception that proves the rule, right? Funny, you write the same way he does, too... :eyebrow:

Predictable. No Im not Dov, in fact I think there may be one or two people on this site who know me very well from a UK site. I have the same handle. I may be NEW to this site, Im not however new to Forums or Chat sites. So no, I dont accept the apprenticeship, gave that up a long time ago. ONLY reason I didnt post on here was I was busy on other forums. this didnt have anything really much different to offer. A Pixel is a Pixel, the name on the screen doesnt change an awful lot. Coffee shops, Newspaper Current Affairs, Same Ol Same Ol..

Anyhow if it bothers you, UT will be able to confirm Dov is in Canada and I am in Athens Greece, Still suffering newbie paranoia? I can help but on your dime. I can give you my cell phone. #, see who answers you from Athens. . Your Call LOL

I can se how you have sooooooo many members and sooooooo few posters however.. FFS its a Forum.. Hardly worth all the effort and neurosis. Im sorry people were wrong on Dovs gender and age.. shoooot meeeeee. Its a common Forum trait for the clique to go the female Teen route.. predictable but common. Makes the guys feel macho and the women feel pampered and safe, from marauding NEWBIES with keyboards. Relaxxxxx. im no threat to your well being.

TOR

PS I always knew that "Dov" is a male Jewish name and you stated early on that you are 50. Nice try, though.

I say NotAnAngel is a teenaged girl. Does anyone agree?

It wasn't about the pictures at all. If anybody thinks that, they clearly weren't following along.

If she is, her parents are letting her stay up damn late on her computer. It's almost 2:00am Athens time, at the moment.

I'm sure that Euroteens are as willful and out of control as our American Versions. Besides, it's a weekend.

:lol: mmmm Thank you.... been a while since my teens.

I realise Dov made many waves on other threads Wolf. I havent read them allll. I posted because of the claims he was female and a teenager, I now see its standard procedure. Humble ones...

Am I the only one who doesn't care? They guy was just an attention whore from the one or two posts I actually saw.

dov is an attention whore. lol There's nothing new in that. Lots of people online are attention whores from what I've seen. Usually it's because they don't get enough attention in real life. I can't say if that's the case for dov, but it's unlikely from what I know of him.

I'm sure my opinion doesn't matter much either since I'm a newbie too, but I know NotAnAngel and dov from other sites and they're definitely not the same person.

NotAn can spell much better than dov anyway. :) There's the first clue.

Oh yeah, and I'm not them either. I'm from Australia. lol

LOL Hiya Ali, well the Cellarites are correct about ONE thing. its late in Athens. so I wish you all Kalinyxta .. Now wasnt this a nice little icebreaker. First time anyone acknowledged my existence.. * Waves*

Hooroo! ;)

Newbie has nothing to do with it.
Post content is everything.
You can take any position you wish, as long as you are prepared to defend it. Dov was not. :eyebrow:

Well I'm not here to defend dov. He doesn't need me to do that for him, and besides, he's been banned anyway, so there's really no point is there?

It checks out.

Toad, they're tag-teaming us now :neutral:

Well, its the first time you've bothered to post anything that got our attention. If you and Dov are such great pals, why didn't you have the backbone to post when he was still around?

Oh, I forgot, you were busy on other forums which were as boring as the Cellar is. :rolleyes:

You think dov's pics upset anyone? dov's pics looked like the pics on the cheap halloween crap they sell at the "Everything for $1 Store." They weren't upsetting, they were stupid. And coming from a "serious" sculptor, they were even stupider. Razor blades in a tit? Give me a break - that idea is ancient and has been done, done over and redone by every Dada wannabe and S&M artist from Soho to Singapore. He may have told you it was a tribute to his mother's suffering but uhhhhh... well, let's move on.

dov wore out his welcome here (in my opinion) because he wasn't interested in engaging anyone here. He wasn't here to exchange ideas but to lecture. He didn't come here to take anything away but to shove his ridiculous ideas and world view down everyone's throat. And there are a lot of people here who are not from America.

if dov wants to scare and shock people, he should stick to doing it with his "art." He isn't here anymore because he had nothing to offer in exchange for all the space he took up. The man had no game. He reminded me less of Barak and more of Mr. Hairball.

In my experience here the only people who don't last long are the one's whose mind is welded shut.

Thank You UT, much appreciated, many site owners wouldnt have bothered. :)

Ok I cant be bothered to answer many seperate posts. Who exactly is "tag teaming? who are "they"?

I did not say this site was boring. kindly dont attempt t twist my words. I said it offered nothing different. I usually post on current affairs Forums. If I have already found a topic of interest, seems pointless to join in the exact same on another Forum 2 days later. Especially if disadvantaged as a Newbie on a newbiephobic site. When you see regs evoking handles from the past, which you obviously have NOOOOOOOOO knowledge of it rings warning bells.

PLUS I have a slight techie problem on Cellar, I did send an email on my first days of becoming a member, I dont think I have a reply. I login. I post, I submit the post. I get a screen which tells me Im not logged in. ( I am). I enter my password again. I get back to the home page, I just lost my entire post.. I give up.. * shrug* after re-logging in I get this message.

"Invalid Thread specified. If you followed a valid link, please notify the webmaster"

Which is of course why I lose my post.. Im rarely inspired to write it all again.

Hope this clears up some of your issues..

What issues?

I hope dov and humpbug have long, painful lives. They need all the luck they can get.

Have a nice day in Yurp, NotAnAngel. And welcome to the cellar.

This is a community, and you should think differently about it.

In real life, you learn about current events or something, and then you go out and have a nice dinner or party or gathering with people you like, and you discuss them. If you're with people you know, you get more from the discussion, even if you have already heard a particular point of view elsewhere. If people you trust hold a point of view that tells you one thing. If people you don't trust hold it, that's another.

You also learn about the people you're discussing things with, and about people in general. Part of the point is the discussion, but the real point is that it's social.

Because people are deeper than current events. Early on somebody said something which marked the real raison d'etre of the Cellar. They pointed out that if they only knew Griff by his politics, they may think they don't like him... but he has built his own house, and that's really cool. Talking about *everything* is part of what makes us special. It lets us understand each other, AND the events going on around us, in different ways.

If you already have enough friends (anyone?), or if you already have social forums that you enjoy, you may find this place redundant. And, as in any social gathering, it's the people that make it unique and if you don't find a connection with this particular group of people it won't seem interesting. Personally, I don't see how I could live without the dwellars; they are a huge part of my life... supporting me through hard times, sharing the good times, sharing themselves and their lives, it's a beautiful thing.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tag-tea...l_wrestling%29

There, it's a pleasure to help expand someone's knowledge, since you say you're too busy writing in the more interesting and relevant sites to stop and take the time to look it up. There is also a trick to keep your post from being lost like that, when you can spare the time from your busy life to learn something else :)

"Same ol, same ol" doesn't sound like the words of a person whose interest has been piqued. Excuse me if I misinterperted your enthusiasm as ennui.



OK, I give up, when did "intolerably irritating" use to post here? I mean, besides me, and I never used that name. :rolleyes:

Well said.

Maybe you should put this (or a link to this) on the new user registration page. Most would probably just skim over it, but a little bit of the message might sink in for some people.

There are a few common denominators that are repeatedly displayed by new members who end up getting the stinkeye from Cellarites:

1) Those who immediately start posting items that they think are "provocative", with no other purpose than to rouse rabble. Not cute, not creative...just *intolerably irritating*. Poking the hornets nest with a stick is *not* participation.

2) Those who arrive with an axe to grind, chip on the shoulder or some blatantly singular cause. Not interesting and too one-dimensional and usually ends up being too self-righteous to stand.

3) Those who attempt to portray themselves as something they clearly are not. Cellarites are not stupid, nor gullible, and do not long tolerate someone who seems to believe they are.

4) Those who lecture or claim to know the One Right Way of Things. For every philosophical "fact" there is a diametrically opposing "fact", and you can bet you'll hear it sooner rather than later here.

The Cellar tolerates and even comes to accept and occasionally defend the overbearing, the foolish, the tasteless, the spelling-challenged, the downtrodden, the hopeless, the arrogant - even the rude and callous sometimes. What we don't dig is someone who comes along, farts in the elevator, and then waits to see who gets off at the next floor. Now, come to The Cellar, check the lay of the land, join the community, and you can rip a nasty one off - and we'll kick the dog for you.

You forgot one

5) People who join for the purpose of defending somebody who already dug their own grave.*


*unless they cut that shit out pretty damn fast and decide to actually contribute.

A Happy Bright and sunshiny good morning to you Wolf , did you mean me BTW? Actually I joined the site before Dov. so no.. but never mind eh.

im sorry i just read this thread about the 24 of january. that day is burned into my memory this year as being one of the best days of my life. it was a 40 degree (celcius) day in melbourne, i was hung over and for some reason i felt like life was going to be fantastic. i reflected back on the rest of my summer and decided this summer was the best ive ever had. and i said to myself "im never going to forget this day"