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kerosene 05-13-2005 01:42 PM

Stace, you crack me up, girl. :lol:

OnyxCougar 05-15-2005 10:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by staceyv
Two days ago, Arsen gave me a debit card that had $200 on it (work bonus) and said "here, go buy yourself whatever you want, makeup, clothes, hey, I don't care if you buy $200 worth of steaks and wine, just make yourself happy"

So I cleaned the whole apartment by myself.

I don't know what will happen when it gets dirty again. Hopefully he'll throw some more money at me and I'll clean it to make him happy...


Ahhhh... so all it took was a bribe..... "If you pay me I will happily clean it all up for you, even though to promised you would do HALF of the work around here."

Why didn't you say that in the first place?

Undertoad 05-15-2005 01:41 PM

Aha, here's the answer! $200 will get you cleaning ladies every other week for two months!

staceyv 05-15-2005 04:35 PM

It's basic conditioning- if you want a behavior repeated, you should reward that behavior.

I want him to continue giving me cash :)
And I'm sure he wants me to continue cleaning the apartment.


I'm willing to make a lot of personal compromises when it comes to cash- that's my job.

limey 05-15-2005 04:41 PM

Am I the only person who, in this situation, would rather spend the money on the cleaning woman (assuming UT's maths is right)?

staceyv 05-15-2005 09:07 PM

Would the cleaning lady also cook you a T-bone steak dinner and have sex with you too?

wolf 05-15-2005 10:42 PM

I don't think you want to hire that cleaning lady, but yes, some of them do.

smoothmoniker 05-15-2005 11:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Undertoad
Aha, here's the answer! $200 will get you cleaning ladies every other week for two months!

In what universe? Even an undocumented, under the table cash cleaner here is $125 a day.

Undertoad 05-16-2005 07:57 AM

SM, you really must get out some time and visit reality land. As little as a year and a half ago, $50 would get a team of 4 women (and yes, once in a while, a gent) who would invade this 4 bedroom, 2.5 bath contemporary for an hour and make it perfect. It had previously paid for one woman to come in for four hours and make it perfect.

(I don't like it perfect, so after the ex left I told them not to come back.)

It was the same price for a husband/wife pair to come in and clean my small five-room office for two hours, when I had an office.

OnyxCougar 05-16-2005 10:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by staceyv
Would the cleaning lady also cook you a T-bone steak dinner and have sex with you too?

Am I the only one here that sees a problem with this whole bribery thing?

Is that really how you want your marriage to be? "You can break your word all you want if you pay me."

What kind of shit is that? And what happens if he doesn't get a bonus so he can't pay you for x amount of time and the apartment gets scuzzy again?

Am I the only one who see this as a bad solution??


edit: So really, you're his whore, his cook, and his cleaning lady.
I'll say it again. He knows exactly what he's doing.

smoothmoniker 05-16-2005 10:40 AM

Holy crap, is everything really that much more expensive here? I knew housing and entertainment were, but seriously?

time to move ....

kerosene 05-16-2005 10:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by smoothmoniker
Holy crap, is everything really that much more expensive here?

Yes

lookout123 05-16-2005 11:19 AM

SM - i don't even live that far away from you (phoenix) and i am astounded at the prices that seem perfectly normal in LA. we have cleaning crew that comes in every other tuesday for a top to bottom clean, everything but windows and dishes. she get $50 per cleaning - how many people she uses, how long it takes is up to her. $50. above the board, legitimate business.

Trilby 05-16-2005 01:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OnyxCougar
Am I the only one here that sees a problem with this whole bribery thing?

Is that really how you want your marriage to be? "You can break your word all you want if you pay me."

What kind of shit is that?

OC, I know what you mean, but StaceyV and Arsen are very young and mucho in love and mucho into wanting to do each other and this is how young marriages sometimes work in the beginning. Some day Stacey will get sick of it and smother him as he sleeps. :dead:

lookout123 05-16-2005 01:28 PM

no, i think she is more likely to use a knife. most likely a bobbit-style alteration.

LCanal 05-16-2005 08:18 PM

Not excuse for the toilet all he has to do is either put a blue chemical thingy in the cistern or squirt it with Toilet Duck. Maybe buy him one of each next time it's your turn to shop!! Oh and a brush.
Acidentally drop his razor in the bowl. That will cure the seat thing. But in all honesty the seat thing is not a big deal. Unless your lipstick has fallen in.

busterb 05-16-2005 09:33 PM

I'm glad I live alone, because I hope, I choose to not because no one will put up with me. If you write in dust please don't date it.

staceyv 05-17-2005 07:43 AM

Our relationship is NOT based on sex! We don't screw all the time- we never did from the beginning. Once a week is normal and I love that about him. We have a great friendship, which makes us strong. It's not about being all mushy, kissy-faced, horny, etc. We've already moved way past that initial romantic phase.

It was not a bribe. He gave me that money for no reason. He didn't expect anything in return. I did all that stuff to make him happy, because he made me happy.
What's wrong with that??

And if he wants to pay me to clean the apartment, sure, I'll do it. And yes, I'll give him a blow job if he throws money at me for no reason. If that makes me a whore, so be it. But no, I wouldn't blow him if he said "I'll give you $50 for some head". No, not then- although, in my first marriage when money was tight, I'll admit, I did give my ex-husband head for $30. :) just so you know what kind of twisted bitch you're dealing with...

WHY are you people trying to talk sense into me?
You'd have better luck selling herbal life to your doctor.

Catwoman 05-17-2005 07:57 AM

I think if Stacey wishes to suck cock for a new dress that's her business. At least she's being honest with herself. A lot of women would suck cock for the first year, get married, never do it again, divorce him and run off with his house - and then complain when you call them a whore!

mrnoodle 05-17-2005 09:59 AM

of all the wonders of the English language, for pure subtlety and nuance nothing sounds more poetic than "suck cock". :sick: you should say "I let him skull **** me" or perhaps "we explored the delights of shinshi-shinshi"

still, catwoman is right. and i'm going to go compliment her right now.


edited because of a sudden attack of southern baptism.....odd.

LabRat 05-17-2005 11:24 AM

"I did all that stuff to make him happy, because he made me happy.
What's wrong with that??"


OMG I'm about to side with Stacey :mg: How is this different than anything else we do for our SO that they 'like'? If instead of cleaning, or sexual treat, she made him a cheesecake that only he could enjoy b/c of her food intolerances, would that be causing such a ruckass? Bah, I say. Their relationship my be a little weird to most of us, but I think they are just working out the kinks. (pun? maybe... :lol: )

We all do things we don't neccisarily want to once in awile for our SO's, and hopefully they do the same for us. It's when this give and takes gets out of balance, for whatever reason, that there is a problem.

cowhead 06-09-2005 04:22 AM

I think this is the right thread. I was wrong. there.. said it.

staceyv 06-14-2005 07:19 PM

uh, it might not be this thread you were looking for- this is your first post in this one.


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