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OnyxCougar 06-07-2004 12:47 PM
You know those "squint and stare for 30 seconds" staticy-fuzzy pictures? I can NEVER see the pictures. I don't know why.

warch 06-07-2004 12:57 PM
Metaphor.

hot_pastrami 06-07-2004 01:00 PM
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Originally posted by OnyxCougar
You know those "squint and stare for 30 seconds" staticy-fuzzy pictures? I can NEVER see the pictures. I don't know why.
No one can... there IS NO PICTURE HIDDEN IN THOSE RANDOM SPECKS.... it's all a lie! A conspiracy! Everyone is trying to...!

Oh wait, there it is. A sailboat. Pretty.

Radar 06-07-2004 01:13 PM
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They probably were able to think for themselves too.
I've got no problem with that. I couldn't stand to be with a stupid or poorly educated woman. I'd hardly have anything to talk about with her.

lumberjim 06-07-2004 01:39 PM
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glatt 06-07-2004 01:47 PM
Hey! How about a "Not Safe For Work" label on that thing! You could poke an eye out! Trying to get me fired?!

perth 06-07-2004 01:55 PM
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Originally posted by hot_pastrami
Oh wait, there it is. A sailboat. Pretty.
It's a schooner.

lumberjim 06-07-2004 02:08 PM
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Originally posted by glatt
Hey! How about a "Not Safe For Work" label on that thing! You could poke an eye out! Trying to get me fired?!
well, glat, i didnt think it was something your boss would pick up at a glance. plus, since i shrunk it to fit under the filesize cap, i cant even see it anymore...and i know what it is.

Happy Monkey 06-07-2004 02:19 PM
Back when those things were all the rage, I was able to see the picture in a tiny photograph of the cover of the book in a magazine ad. They actually scale pretty well.

lumberjim 06-07-2004 02:28 PM
can you make that one out? maybe it;s my angle?

Clodfobble 06-07-2004 02:50 PM
I could see it, but it took longer than it takes me when it's not on a computer screen.

Onyx, have you ever done the "floating sausage" trick with your fingers? You hold your index fingers pointed at each other, about six inches from your nose, and then focus on something beyond them (like your keyboard.) You will see a little floating piece of finger in between your fingertips.

That's essentially what you're trying to do with the stereograms, focus past them. Try switching back and forth between focusing on your keyboard and your fingertips, and then try to do the same eye muscle movement while looking at the picture.

hot_pastrami 06-07-2004 02:55 PM
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Originally posted by lumberjim
can you make that one out? maybe it;s my angle?
I can see it just fine. But it is taking an effort of will to resist making a wisecrack about Clodfobble's "floating sausage" metaphor.

Happy Monkey 06-07-2004 03:02 PM
I had no problem seeing it. Of course, once I saw it, that's another story.

SteveDallas 06-07-2004 03:47 PM
I've always found the ones that involve pictures to be easier than random-dot ones like this one. And like Clodfobble I find it easier in print than on a screen.

tw 06-07-2004 04:00 PM
Got it on the third try - the whole time mad because as Catwomen said, there are no petals and roses. I know I am being lied to and therefore am solving the problem by thinking like a liar. By putting myself in the perspective of a liar, then, I guess, it was easy to solve.

hot_pastrami 06-07-2004 04:20 PM
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Originally posted by tw
Got it on the third try - the whole time mad because as Catwomen said, there are no petals and roses. I know I am being lied to and therefore am solving the problem by thinking like a liar. By putting myself in the perspective of a liar, then, I guess, it was easy to solve.
TW, dude... somebody really needs to introduce you to the calm, peaceful world of Decaf.

Radar 06-07-2004 04:41 PM
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as Catwomen said, there are no petals and roses.
After reading that, I went back to the site and got it immediately. I guess it's all how you approach the problem. I normally look for numerical patterns and I had to throw that out the window.

Undertoad 06-07-2004 05:42 PM
There are no roses, and no numbers either. Are there are, is dots.

What kind of mind blames the problem for their lack of solution?

Radar 06-07-2004 05:44 PM
I don't know. You should ask someone who blamed the problem. I didn't blame the problem. I blamed my approach to the problem.

SteveDallas 06-07-2004 05:48 PM
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Originally posted by Radar


No. I was invited to join once, and I went to a meeting with a friend and it was truly boring as hell. It was a bunch of nerdy guys sitting around trying to compare IQ's and who couldn't seem to act like normal people.
Yeah, the one I went to was more mixed gender-wise, but other than that my experience matched yours pretty well.

beavis 06-07-2004 05:59 PM
uh oh, i got it on the 2nd try. i can only hope it was a lucky guess.

lumberjim 06-07-2004 06:01 PM
you have to get it 3 times to demonstrate that you understand the pattern

lumberjim 06-07-2004 06:02 PM
I bet this could be adapted into a drinking game pretty easily

hot_pastrami 06-07-2004 06:06 PM
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Originally posted by lumberjim
I bet this could be adapted into a drinking game pretty easily
Ooh, I know! Whenever the number of "petals" is an even number, you have to take a drink!

SteveDallas 06-07-2004 08:49 PM
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Originally posted by lumberjim
I bet this could be adapted into a drinking game pretty easily
If you're creative, ANYTHING can be adapted into a drinking game pretty easily! :beer:

Torrere 06-07-2004 09:09 PM
Everyone claims a die (color code them). If your die is a rose, you have to take a drink.

lumberjim 06-07-2004 09:48 PM
boy, you two would be drunk in a hurry. Although HP has told me that he can drink most of you under the table, especially tw, who he feels can't hold his liquor.*

I was thinking you'd take turns rolling 5 dice, and the highest number thrown has to drink a shot. Or the lowest number thrower drinks a number of sips of beer corresponding to the highest thrown amount of petals.

* that's a lie. he never once said anything bad about anybody, as far as I know. I was just being dramatic.

Uryoces 06-07-2004 10:23 PM
Petals around the rose took me about 7 minutes. I had to drop the logical side and go with pure creativity. Hint: The dice are pictures, not dice. I'm calculator stupid; having problems adding up single digit numbers. That's what takes me so long... :p

The magic picyure is of a gingerbread man. if you cross your eyes, he appears. If you defocus your eyes, it looks a bit like two people doing something nasty with foam rubber pipe insulators.

elSicomoro 06-07-2004 10:42 PM
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Originally posted by perth
It's a schooner.
THERE IS NO EASTER BUNNY! THAT'S JUST SOME GUY IN A SUIT!!!

mizchulita 06-07-2004 11:47 PM
I guess we is dumb. Me and my stupid son. We got it on the first try. Hmmm.

wolf 06-08-2004 12:49 AM
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Originally posted by lumberjim


well, glat, i didnt think it was something your boss would pick up at a glance. plus, since i shrunk it to fit under the filesize cap, i cant even see it anymore...and i know what it is.
It worked. That's hilarious.

When the craze was big I bought several of the magic eye books. They never had anything that quite popped out like that, though. I remember seeing an "x-rated" magic eye book for sale through Quality Paperback Book Club a couple years ago, but I never bothered buying it.

Catwoman 06-08-2004 04:34 AM
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Originally posted by SteveDallas
So are any of you Mensa "qualifiers" actually members of Mensa? (I ask because I went to a meeting with a friend once & I could imagine any less interesting way to pass my time, and I was just wondering if maybe it was that one chapter.)

No. I got the leaflet through after I qualified and it looked like a 1970's mental institution; a largely older clientele assembled in manicured gardens with implausible dress sense and no facial expressions. Ill-informed judgements aside, though, I never really felt the urge to participate in an IQ swap-shop, and as radar says, waste time attempting to communicate with people who have limited social skills.

Now if they replaced intelligence tests with drinking games I would be much more inclined to show up (who needs brain cells anyway). :beer:

Crimson Ghost 06-08-2004 07:34 AM
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Originally posted by Catwoman



No. I got the leaflet through after I qualified and it looked like a 1970's mental institution; a largely older clientele assembled in manicured gardens with implausible dress sense and no facial expressions. Ill-informed judgements aside, though, I never really felt the urge to participate in an IQ swap-shop, and as radar says, waste time attempting to communicate with people who have limited social skills.
Sounds like you could have been joining Congress, too.
You know intelligence has no place in government.

glatt 06-08-2004 07:37 AM
I took Mensa's online test that tells you if you have a shot of getting in. I passed it. I think I would have needed to take an "official" test before being accepted. It's been a while, but I believe that they take the top 2% in intelligence. Out of a world of 6 Billion people, that means that 120,000,000 people meet the requirements for Mensa membership. It is NOT an exclusive club.

120 million people... That's like the population of Canada, right?

Beestie 06-08-2004 08:22 AM
Finally.

Beestie 06-08-2004 08:24 AM
Originally posted by glatt
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120 million people... That's like the population of Canada, right?
No Mensa for you.[/soup nazi]

HungLikeJesus 06-28-2007 11:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Undertoad (Post 104803)
...

Anyone who hasn't gotten the puzzle yet, it doesn't really speak to your intelligence. Go back to it, I swear this is useful. Imagine that the question in the puzzle is being asked of you by a four-year-old child. If you still don't get it, LOOK AWAY from the puzzle. Stop, and imagine a four-year-old looking at the puzzle and asking you the question. Why would a four-year-old ask that question? Picture the kid asking you the question. Is it a boy or a girl? Why would they ask that question? Imagine what the question would mean if you were four and didn't know that the dots represented numbers.

The people who got it right away are missing out because they don't get the free lesson.

/end professor mode
When I was four I thought...

What did I think?

I could say I thought the world was flat, or I could fly, but what I now think I then thought could never be expressed in the language of that age and limited experience.

Shawnee123 06-28-2007 11:18 AM
What was the puzzle? Link gone.

HungLikeJesus 06-28-2007 11:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Shawnee123 (Post 359639)
What was the puzzle? Link gone.
Yeah, I noticed that too. But I read the whole thread, so I thought someone else should also.

It was interesting to speculate on what the puzzle was, with such limited clues.

Happy Monkey 06-28-2007 11:27 AM
Here's the puzzle.

Shawnee123 06-28-2007 12:05 PM
I'm dumb, I can't get the rose puzzle. I'm blind, I can't see the magic image. If I were deaf I could play a mean pinball.

xoxoxoBruce 06-28-2007 12:11 PM
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Originally Posted by glatt (Post 105127)
I took Mensa's online test that tells you if you have a shot of getting in. I passed it. I think I would have needed to take an "official" test before being accepted. It's been a while, but I believe that they take the top 2% in intelligence. Out of a world of 6 Billion people, that means that 120,000,000 people meet the requirements for Mensa membership. It is NOT an exclusive club.

120 million people... That's like the population of Canada, right?
That's 0.2%... even a 2 year old can get in.

Undertoad 06-28-2007 12:31 PM
https://crux.baker.edu/~cdavis09/roses.html

The dude forgot the tilde.

HungLikeJesus 06-28-2007 12:55 PM
UT - thanks. That second site made everything clear.

BigV 06-28-2007 02:00 PM
9 mins, including finding it on my own from the clue in post #1.

There is no spoon.

HungLikeJesus 06-28-2007 05:00 PM
Interesting - now the link that HM provided is broken. That wasn't one of us, I hope, got frustrated and broke it.

Shawnee123 06-28-2007 05:01 PM
That is odd.

HungLikeJesus 06-28-2007 05:08 PM
Now it's working again. Maybe too much traffic generated by the Cellar?

xoxoxoBruce 06-28-2007 05:13 PM
UT's link is the better one.

HungLikeJesus 06-28-2007 05:39 PM
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Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce (Post 359808)
UT's link is the better one.
HM's included an interesting article about Bill Gates as a boy.

BigV 06-28-2007 05:48 PM
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Originally Posted by HLJ (Post 359811)
HM's included an interesting article about Bill Gates as a boy.
Yes, also interesting is the revelation as to why he had difficulty with the game..

piercehawkeye45 06-28-2007 06:31 PM
I tried it for about 5 minutes then gave up on it.

I know I am missing something big.

bluecuracao 06-28-2007 06:39 PM
I got it in 5 tries, took a couple of minutes.

Kingswood 06-28-2007 06:40 PM
I encountered this puzzle a couple of years ago and at the time I figured it out in less than a minute.

lumberjim 06-28-2007 06:41 PM
earlier today it was killing me...i thought i had it....and got it right twice, then i didnt have it.....

but just now...i looked at it and immediately figured it out.


sux cuz i figured it out 2 years ago but forgot.

kerosene 06-28-2007 07:57 PM
Damn, this is depressing...I just keep rolling and just keep not getting it right.

Uisge Beatha 06-28-2007 08:14 PM
Don't worry, case. You'll likely get it in due time. If you are really stuck, check Undertoad's hint:

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Anyone who hasn't gotten the puzzle yet, it doesn't really speak to your intelligence. Go back to it, I swear this is useful. Imagine that the question in the puzzle is being asked of you by a four-year-old child. If you still don't get it, LOOK AWAY from the puzzle. Stop, and imagine a four-year-old looking at the puzzle and asking you the question. Why would a four-year-old ask that question? Picture the kid asking you the question. Is it a boy or a girl? Why would they ask that question? Imagine what the question would mean if you were four and didn't know that the dots represented numbers.
Of course it's only easy for me to say this so casually because I finally solved it after lots of time and tries. Oh, hey, with this puzzle that just proves how brilliant I am! :D

monster 06-28-2007 08:14 PM
grr

kerosene 06-28-2007 08:28 PM
Hey, now I feel smarter. It took me over half an hour!

It is irritatingly simple.

DucksNuts 06-28-2007 08:37 PM
I was ready to smash the friggen thing. The second link makes it heaps easier.


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