not under our current laws - radar's idea is to rid us of any laws concerning the subject.

Who's laws? In the United States, minors are not legally capable of consent therefore "consensual sex" automatically excludes minors. Radar can speak for himself but until he explicitly states he is in favor of removing the age barrier for consent, I will assume that, were he king of America, that it would remain in place. The age varies by state (14 in Hawai'i, btw) but every state has an age below which consent is deemed to be legally void.

Now go bitch slap yourself for making me defend Radar :)

wow i've never seen anyone defend radar before. my thinking was that radar want all laws repealed due to his stance that gov't (that evil, lurking menace) should have NO say over who is doing who.

it is possible that i took his statement further than he intended.

but... don't you feel dirty for siding with him on something?

And in MO if you're older than 18 but younger than 21.

that's your distaste for radar speaking. i've not seen him condemn the government like say....spivey has; just federal income tax......that's his drum, and he likes to beat it. I've learned more about the constitution in here than i did in school.

Beestie is right in defending him. and far from feeling dirty, should hold his head high because he did not allow his personal opinion of radar to cloud his vision regarding your incorrect interpretation of radar's mandate.

Onyx almost made me think she was going to do it, but then didn't:

Nix the electoral college. Popular vote for everything.

After that, I dunno. Probably mandate that The King gets to sleep in until 12 every day.

Most people aren't qualified to drive. Why would we give them carte blanche to vote as well?

Who said anything about volunteering? This country should emulate the Israeli's...Mandatory training for everyone to become a citizen/soldier and serve thier country for 2 years.

To all of the young liberals lurking...I do believe the draft will be reinstated after the elections no matter who wins as our military is stretched too thin and enlilstment and reinlistment numbers are dwindling. Drop down and gimme 20, Private Rueda!

I'll give you 3 to 1 on the draft not being reinstated by June 2005.

OK, your on for one Dinar:p

I'm with UT, give me some of that action.

UT is the bookmaker, not me. But I know he suckered me in on a lost bet anyway...no matter who gets sworn in in January, nothing in Washington gets done in 5 months. *Excuse me while I snipe a raghead to get UT his Dinar*

I'll give you 2 to 1 on June 2006.

With the current draft bill sitting in committee, Congress has painted itself into a neat little corner anyway. It specifies men AND women all have to equally serve.

Even if they might take the draft if it were coated with a little vaseline, the population at large would NEVER accept drafting of debutantes. Army wouldn't want 'em anyway.

But count on the ACLU to sue for discrimination on behalf of the boys.

With all the lawyerin' for years, there ain't never gonna be a draft in this "equal rights" country again...

did you hear that some asshole in new jersey got "ladies night" banned from all night clubs and bars becasue of gender discrimination? [/derail]

Racist anyone?

Not necessarily.

When it comes to those murdering bastards from the "Religion of Peace" you're goddamn right I am, and proud of it! Let the sand scratching sons-o-bitches put on a uniform and quit hiding behind women and scoolchildren and let's get this shit over with.

Bleeding heart / let's just get along liberal, anyone?

1) as someone who has been in the military for the last 12 years (USAF, USAFR, ANG) seriously, no draft, if you want them in some sort of civilian, social-service capacity - i'm ok with that. but the leadership in the miiltary still remembers the quality degradation due to soldiers who didn't want to be there. the draft is not advocated by any career member of the armed services, that i know of.

2) as far as i know the enlistment quotas are still being met ahead of schedule. i haven't looked up the numbers but i am in regular contact with a handful of recruiters. the only complaint that i have seen is that the quotas aren't allowing for enough growth to keep up with the growing demands. there are more people that are not re-enlisting, but that is true anytime there is a heavy deployment schedule while there are jobs in the civilian community.

Relatively few extremists??? Try taking your kid to see the teaching of the Koran in a Wahabist mosque. They make the Nazi Brownshirts look like social workers.

What ethnicity am I? Proud to be a third generation American combat veteran, thank you, and willing to go again if needed to defend your right to practice your beliefs.

When and if your "ALOT of Muslim friends" gain an upper hand in this war, you and your infidel friends will be the next heads on the Islamic chopping block, ala Nick Berg.

Sorry, I'm really not tops on voting theory.

It's my understanding that the difference between an electoral college (voting system?) and a popular vote is that in the former, the votes for a region are pooled together. That is, the person with the majority of votes in a specific state gets all of the votes for that state. In states that are heavily dominated by a certain political leaning, this causes problems; the lone dissenter's vote is only considered within a smaller context than is (I'd imagine) technologically necessary.

What's the link between changing how votes are counted and giving anybody carte blanche to do anything?

Anytime someone mentions a popular vote I automatically visualize the worst scenario of every vote counted with no boundaries.

Which is?

Like I said, no boundaries, or more accurately, no districting of any sort.

For instance, in a presidential election, it would take away a portion of the block voting power of states.

I always thought that was the general principle of democracy -- that everybody (within very broad guidelines, such as 'over age 18') gets to vote.

I'll concede that it could suck (a lot of people are pretty fucking dumb). But if the really-fucking-dumb people start organizing stupid-committes to force their dumb on us, we smart people can always slaughter a new indigenous society.

Who's up for New Zealand?

Sorry, TS...I didn't realize that that was the scenario.

But how much power does a state really have anyway?

Here's how presidential politics works now: the nominees focus on the most populous and battleground states.

Here's how presidential politics will work without the EC: the nominees will focus on the most populous and battleground areas.

IOW, not much will change, IMO.

As much as subjugating another inferior race might appeal to me, I'm happy here.

An idea that just occured to me:

Let everybody vote, but only count the ones of citizens who meet a certain set of, as yet undetermined, standards.

It's a little bigger than just presidential elections. That was just one example.

State blocks of votes give regions a way to muster votes to handle regional issues.

Without a state, what need is there for legislators? As appealing as that idea may be, the state is an intermediary between the top and the bottom.

I have no desire to get rid of states...I only wish to see the end of the EC.

My only contact with Islam has been through professors who specialize in it. The same goes for most religions, aside from what I read on the news and so forth. I've never sat down and chatted with Average Ahmed the Muslim about his faith.

So, I admit that maybe I'm biased; maybe I'm re-spouting idealistic thoughts about religion with my own idealistic take on it. But, there's a common trend throughout every scholarly lecture I've attended about any religion in the past school year. Lectures on eastern Christianity and Islam were the most memorable (I've only listened to talks about the Abrahamic traditions, and the Judaism ones really went over my head). Every time, the lecturer has said that war sucks, isn't supported by the texts, etc. And every time someone asks, "well, what so-and-so saying that religion to justifies this stuff?"

Every time, the lecturer answers, "well, they're wrong", going on to say that it's undereducated people with axes to grind interpreting scripture to further their own goals. Terrorists, broadly speaking, are not expert theologians.

No, I'm just like you are, in case you forgot...[quote]Originally posted by OnyxCougar
[b]

[color=indigo] If an act of war is perped on American soil, once the perpetrators are tracked down, we Hiroshima the fuck out of the country that they came from. Period.


February: All illegals will be rounded up at gunpoint and deported. Anyone caught crossing the border other than at manned checkpoints with immigration papers in hand are shot, regardless of age/sex/disability/religion.


May: All persons on death row that have been verified as guilty by way of DNA evidence or admission of guilt are to be executed by May 7.

I looked in a couple of dictionaries for Raghead, Rag-Head and Rag Head. No luck. Is that like pornography in that you can’t define it but you’ll know one when you see them?
How can you call someone a racist, or accuse them of casting aspersions of billions of people by using a word that has no meaning.
Does it mean people of Islamic faith? I’d venture to say most Islamic people wear no head covering, most of the time. Look at the pictures from the myriad of predominately Islamic countries, and I think you’ll find that to be true. Look at the pictures from Iraq, or the Indonesians, or Palestinians.
Look at the pictures of the terrorists, outside the US. er,...uh.....gosh,.....Ragheads.
:p

Anyhoo...to get back to the spirit of the thread-

Marriage licenses are banned, to be replaced with 2 year permits.
If both parties agree to renew, so be it, and vice-versa.
Any community property acquired during the permit period is split 50-50 as well as any possible visitation arrangements upon non-renewals. Screw the lawyer's fees.

people found to have "unintentionally" caused injury to someone by shooting weapon into air is summarily shot, with their own weapon.

And shot by the family of the injured party!

nice touch. and if the first shot happens to hit the kneecap, the second hits the elbow, the third... well dammit they just have to keep going until they figure that malfunctioning weapon out!

Agreed..and if the kids are missing pitching and batting practice because of attendance at this event, well, two birds with one stone, eh?.

people found guilty of crimes against children receive a complimentary tattoo of a beautiful woman on there back and a lifetime sentence in a turkish prison.

need more rules.

Haven't had time to read through it, so I'm sorry if I repeat one.

Every child is required to be fluent in English and at least one other language before graduating from junior high. This means immigrants, too.

All pharmaceutical advertising is permanently banned.

The term "Marriage" is removed from all laws. The societal institutions can go around "marrying" people if they wish; the gub'ment is in the business of enforcing contract law.

Large-scale funding of research into effective, safe, cheap and easily available birth control, for males and females.

Constitutional amendment granting the right to privacy.

Judges cannot be elected; only appointed.

...I'll think of more later.
[later] Oh, yeah, that universal sunset provision -- GREAT IDEA!

Remove tax/tariff/gas milage exemptions for "light trucks".

Run Wal-Mart and their ideological cronies out of town.

Decrease or remove subsidies for corn farming. Go back to a "grain reserve" program, not a loan program.

Rescind software patents.

Say it with me now ...

All nuclear power, all the time.

I'll say that, with the caveat:

Wind, solar, and geothermal where feasible, and hydroelectric where it already is.

All nuke-u-lar waste to be stored in the LA basin.

you mean it's not already?

You're thinking of human waste. :biggrin:

Shine little glow-worm, glimmer, glimmer
Shine little glow-worm, glimmer, glimmer
Lead us lest too far we wander
Love's sweet voice is callin' yonder
Shine little glow-worm, glimmer, glimmer
Hey, there don't get dimmer, dimmer
Light the path below, above
And lead us on to love
:biggrin:

I always automatically hear the Spike Jones and His City Slickers version of this.

It pains me as a Republicanarchist to say this, but I'm sick of hearing about oil. I'm sick of paying for oil. I'm sick of anything related to oil. I wish oil had never been discovered.

As king, I say all oil executives must immediately stop production in their respective companies and turn their attention to alternative forms of energy. I want to see whatever oil is left on the planet lie dormant forever. I hope Saudi Arabia has to sell sand to make a living. Internal combustion engines are banned forever. Make me a nukular car that can still get me up in the mountains but doesn't cost an arm and a leg to run. Sorry NASCAR.

Well, we get to hear Bush's energy plan tonight. Maybe he will renounce oil.

Or move a couple caribou and drill in ANWAR.

I like the NASCAR thing.

Fuck NASCAR.

i like oil. i like using oil. in fact, every where that i park my car - i leave a large oil puddle behind as a sign of my passage. my engine is in good repair and doesn't leak oil, so i have dump out a quart of oil from a bottle - but that is ok. i think we should have more things that run on oil. why can't we have oil powered computers? when it is cold outside, i just dig pits in the backyard, pour oil in, ignite it then invite my friends over for a marshmallow roast.

at my family events we don't encourage water balloon fights, we have 10-w30 balloon fights. i don't drink much anymore so when i have extra cash i just buy a case of motor oil and dump it down the sewer - i don't even get a hangover from it and it is just as much fun as binge drinking.

i want to use up all the oil in the world so that there is absolutely no reason for us to give one little damn about the middle east or the people who get off on killing eachother there. i figure using all the oil is more likely than getting humans to quit using oil, so i'm doing my part.

You know, if you take the profit motive out of it, maybe we can finally get around to actually killing each other for differences in ideology, as has been claimed for so long.

well, you've got an idea there. but what if profit IS our ideology?

Looks like that's going to happen now with yesterday's budget agreement.

what did he say?

We are going to tell China and India how to conserve fossil fuels. Classic. :lol:

I'm surprised to hear a Republican talking about conservation. I'll be very surprised if he gives this more than lip service.

His talk of using existing resources is just code for drilling in ANWAR and strip mining for coal in West Virginia while dumping the rubble in the valleys. It's hardly "environmentally sensitive," but that's how Rove has taught the Republicans to talk. Call something the exact opposite of what it really is, and many fools will actually believe you. The only realistic answer I see to the US's energy problems is to start massively building nuke plants all over the place. We can run electric cars off of them. I agree with him on this one. Finding a home for the waste is a problem, but I'm fine with burying the stuff in the caves in the desert. It's far from perfect, but it's our best option right now. I also would like to see lots of funding for alternative energy sources. I think he's latching on the wrong ones, but at least he's talking about looking.

Before describing this little plan, he also talked about contacting oil producing countries and asking them to ramp up production. It seems to me that the oil countries are at maximum production. Saudi Arabia is trying so hard to be our friends where they can, it's in their best interests to be at maximum capacity. It's the one thing they can do to help us without pissing off the muslim world. They must be at capacity right now. I think this is it. We are at world peak oil production today. It ain't gonna get better.

Who is doing the drilling here?

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