Besides. Using poisons like mercury and chrion in vaccines isn't a conspiracy theory. It is fact.

you ressurect a two year old thread and then moan 'cos I suspect you might have been bored?

Ok, you'e not bored.... just barking.....

Jerk? Perhaps, although it was still not uncalled for. The first part is a bit of an eyebrow raiser without your reasoning provided, but I probably wouldn't have commented if you had stopped there. The second part was what made you sound more than a little nutty, how in the world would you be able to make a statement like that and have anything to back it up?

How much time have you spent with children on the spectrum? The vaccine issue may not be all its made out to be BUT the Fed Gov is working pretty hard not to release all the information they have on these mandated shots. Something is very wrong.

They don't. You have to get a one-time shot of Pneumovax for that.

A bout of flu, though, will weaken the immune system to the point where other infections, such as pneumonia, become more likely.

You left out healthcare workers ... one of the greatest dangers of any epidemic is when the care providers start to get sick.

@ 9th and griff

http://www.mercola.com/2005/sep/20/n...th_mercury.htm

Dr. Mercola's Comment:


It has been six years since the American Academy of Pediatrics and the U.S. Public Health Service joined forces in requesting the removal of all mercury-containing preservative thimerosal from vaccines.

A quick surf on the net easily reveals that this new vaccine indeed contains mercury.

How is it possible that they can approve vaccines that have a preservative that has been outlawed for six years? Last year I ran an article that documented that flu vaccines still contain mercury. How can the US federal government justify this morally reprehensible behavior and expose your children and you to this well documented neurotoxic poison?

The "Mad Hatter" from Alice in Wonderland wasn't just an idle fancy. In fact, hatters in England went insane with astonishing frequency a couple of hundred years ago, until "mad hatter" became a cliché. Why? Mercury salts were used to make felt for fancy hats.

Mercury exposure can cause a devastating array of problems, including:
Multiple Sclerosis
Central Nervous System Disorders
Autism
Alzheimer's Disease

Is this really something you want injected into yourself, and your children?

Other ways to avoid getting the flu without taking dangerous shots include:
Eating a healthy diet by eliminating sugar
Exercising
Getting enough rest
Eating garlic regularly
Not letting stress become overwhelming
Washing your hands


To learn more about the dangers of flu vaccines, you might want to consider calling into our telephone clinic on the subject, where you will hear a live discussion I will conduct with my top vaccine advisor, Dr. Sherri Tenpenny, who is widely regarded as one of the most knowledgeable and outspoken physicians regarding the impact that vaccines can have on health.


There is alot of supporting facts for anyone who wants to research via a simple google search. Childhood vaccines are important. I think the benefit outweigh the risk.However as a mother presented with the facts the thought has crossed my mind as to 'if' this was the cause. I don't expect anyone to understand who dosn't have a child with a disability. One would wonder where it came from but that and my experience isn't anyones business. The facts on the poisons in vaccines which include flu vaccine is a fact and I would appreciate my critics to use facts of their own instead of flammable language and irrelevant personal questions. Thank you:(


vaccine registrys and phone numbers

http://www.whale.to/vaccines/ingredients1.html

http://www.vaccinesafety.edu/thi-table.htm

I'm definitely with you skysidhe.

:comfort: I see that now. Thank you griff !

"Abnormal Behavior" warning added to Tamiflu.

Not disputing the danger, one iota,....... but when they say "103 reports, mostly from Japan, of injury and delirium among the millions of flu patients treated with Tamiflu", I think 103 could just be nuts before they got there, or could be freaked by getting any shot.
I also think of all those wacky Asian IOtDs. :lol:

NJ flu-shot mandate for pre-schoolers draws outcry.

Gee, I can't imagine why...

Influenza vaccine effectiveness among children 6 to 59 months of age during 2 influenza seasons: a case-cohort study.

Line up your little guinea pigs folks...

They were handing them out for free at Albertson's the other day. I don't even have to guess at what kind of flu shot it was. Here's some, screw you up for no reason, for free. Oh gee, gimme some of that. I love free. I didn't see many people lining up for one. I think there was one guy there.

What kind of flu shot was it?


Nobody should be required by the state to get a flu shot, let alone pre-school aged kids. What business does the State have to regulate who can attend a private pre-school?

If there is a wide spread epidemic killing millions of people, then we can talk about the government coming in and forcing people to get shots. But absent an emergency, it's not right.

Thimerosal. Because it's cheap enough to give to the public for free. To request it without the Mercury is an upgrade. I doubt they even had any on hand for the requests.

I got the flu shot every year when I worked in the NHS.
If I was offered it now I'd take it too.

Never had a single problem.

HM gets it because he's asthmatic.
He claimed it stopped him getting colds too. He would not accept my argument as to why this was emphatically not the case.
Then again he also claimed virtuous living as the reason he didn't get colds, and predicted his brother's early death practically every time he talked about him (also Alan Parker, who will be dead before next summer apparently, because he's put on weight).

The difference between offered and mandated is the issue... as some people have had problems.

I don't even like it "offered" to the naive.
It's not like they say, "hey this has mercury in it". "Do you still want it?"

The fact that it is mandated really screws me up. Like, in the head. Utter complete bullshit.

If you want your child to be healthy that is your choice. Letting your kid have a strong immune system is part of that choice.

The Infection Control Practitioner delivered mine to my office last week. I didn't even have to go upstairs and stand in a big line, which is how they usually dispense the shots. Downside is that because she was mobile, she didn't bring the bag of lollipops with her.

I've never had any problems with the shot, but my cow orker who tends toward hypochondria started having hot flashes and general malaise almost immediately, which then lasted for the next three days.

I'm getting mine in early November. They come to work and it's free for me.

I just turned down the one at Minifobette's 6-month checkup (at our doctor they do make a point to mention that it's optional--but recommended--when they're going through all the other vaccines.) I told the pediatrician, "Nah, I'm not worried about it, we don't really get sick."

Of course, just two days later we all got a cold. :lol: Minifob got it first though, and I'm certain he picked it up in the waiting room, playing around the other sick kiddos.

I refused a free one at work today. I'd rather just get the flu.

I've never had a flu shot. Don't intend to ever get one either.

We're paying for employees at work to have them on Thursday. I got one the last two years. 2006, I got sick three days later, for three days...with the flu. Last year, all was well.

You know this is a vaccine against influenza don't you? Not just a cold, which people call "the flu".

Flu lays you low for 3-5 days (I mean really, not soldiering through it, actually needing to be looked after for this amount of time). The after effects can last for weeks.

And as it's airbourne and you can be infected without symptoms for up to 24 hours, you might be passing it on to vulnerable people.

I'm not saying everyone should have the vaccination, and of course it should be by choice. I'm just explaining why many people take it when offered.

And yes I know the above from personal experience because I've had influenza, and it's as different from any other cold as a migraine is from a headache. And also because I worked for the Medicines Management Team of course.

lol!! And all this time I thought flu shots were given for syphilis...That would suck. To have syfluenza....lol!

So you guys aren't going to have your kids vaccinated against the flu? Well don't come crying to me when they turn into flesh eating zombies.....:) lol!

influenza

Um, no shit really. :eyeroll:

cdc

Thiomersal (INN) (C9H9HgNaO2S), commonly known in the United States as thimerosal, is an organomercury compound (approximately 49% mercury by weight) used as an antiseptic and antifungal agent.

I generally say no thank you when offered brain poisons even in light doses. As a child I wasn't given a choice, now I'll exercise mine.

Sorry, I was making a point - just rather heavy-handedly.
I should simply have asked if you've ever suffered from the flu.

lol! You know you were referring to syfluenza admit it. :)

Here's another little fyi...Pork comes from pigs! I know you thought pork came from cows......but it doesn't....Isn't that why you weren't eating pork?

lol! Sorry Sundae. That was pretty far fetched...gotta give you "the business" for that one. lol!

Aaah that made me laugh....thnx.

Meh - I get tired of people self diagnosing very minor illnesses with more serious names.
I forget that when I come here I am dealing with people at least twice as intelligent (not sarcasm)
My bad :blush:

lol!! Still laughing.....You sounded so serious. lol!! Love it..

You're okay Sundae, I'm just getting warmed up for Merc explaining why we should give babies a cocktail vaccine for measles mumps ruebella chicken pox herpes and various inflenzas marinated in mercury.

There isn't a vaccine for herpes. If there were I'd suggest everyone get it before they become sexually active.

Sorry, how about including HPV or whatever the next wonder vaccine is that's mandated for the betterment of Merck's stockholders er sorry humanity.

I can see HPV ending up on the standard list of vaccines along with Rubella for teenage girls.

It may not be a bad idea, but I hate that my kids are in the age group that would be the test subjects and they wouldn't admitt a problem if there was one.

I don't think medical companies get away with faulty drugs for very long these days. There's just too much information sharing...and lots and lots of whistle blowers.

I certainly understand your concerns though.

At least if it's mandated, mercury free (single dose vials) options will be made available... eventually - although not to the people getting it free from the company bucket... Personally, I'm also not too keen on aluminum, formaldehyde, and genetically engineered virii myself...

Ruebella is mandated before school here, unfortunately they usually try to give it in a cocktail to little ones not teens, so you get a lot of high temps, the occasional death, and some say autism or compromised immune systems.

And it wears off just in time for the girls to hit child bearing age - brilliant I tell ya...

Over here, Rubella is offered usually in the first or second year of high school. I remember I had mine at school. It's not compulsory though. Well it wasn't then. Like everywhere else though, some private schools require immunisation against everything.

May I tell my herpes joke at this point?

Not in all cases. In any case, there are booster shots available for those who are serious about immunisation.

Pretty similar to tetanus really.

please do

If one in seven sexually active people have herpes, that means quite a number of our regulars must have it.

not it!

lol...would it matter if you did have it?

Too late to vaccinate.

I like that phrase sing it out long and strong! "Too late to vaccinate!"

Yes well, generally there's not much point in vaccination once you've got the disease. Unfortunately for some.

It's interesting what social stigma is attached to herpes though.

I would think it depends on your circle. I don't think its a biggie.

So why do you think it is that no one on this site has owned up to having herpes if it's no biggie? People seem to talk about all their other deep dark secrets.

Three women arrive at SAINT Pete's gate and ask to be let into heaven.
St. Pete asks the first how she died. "The big C. I died of the big C."
"What's the big C?" he asks.
"Cancer, fool. Wha'd you think it was?"
"OH sorry, sure right.Well step right in."
"And what did you die from?" He asks the next woman.
"I died of the big T."
"The big T?" he asks
"Tuberculosis, what is wrong with you? The drug resistant kind."
"Oh Yes, sure of course, sorry, come on in."
St. Pete turns to the last woman and asks what did her in,
"The big H."
"The big H?"
"Herpes. Ain't you ever heard of Herpes?"
"You don't die from herpes." St. Pete says.
"You do when you give it to Leroy."

Give them time to find the thread... assuming we haven't put a bullet in it's brain pan yet. :)

I'll bet you no one owns up to having herpes although I'm sure when Jimbo reads the first part of my statement he'll say he got it on 9/11.

I not only have it I'm having a scorching outbreak right now. In fact you should go wash your hands after you read this post.

Do you know about the latest avian virus? Chirpies. The saddest part is it's un tweetable.

You know it's brought on by stress and poor diet and not enough sleep (and poor personal hygiene isn't helpful either). Maybe you should go wash your boy bits? ;)

That was a funny one. At last! :)

I've had it for 20 something years, I can tell you a lot more about it than you'd care to know. infact, you can bring about an outbreak by washing your boy bits too vigorously, if you get my drift. and FWIW, I'm a virgo and we keep our special purposes scrupulously clean.