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oh, nevermind....

So, insoluble, has NFN hired you as his PR person? Big mistake, no PR efforts in the world could make that asshole any less revolting. If you care to "reread" the recent flamefest "initiated" by Wolf and your buddy FNF you might catch on to the FACT that I was simply giving Pete my condolences on his loss of this pet, which BTW was what that thread was about. It was the following posts made by others which were inflammatory towards me. So, as far as Cellar retards go, you're definitely high on the list, right next to your bestest buddy FNF. Enjoy the glory, fool.

LUVBUGZ, do you always just troll? I mean really. Screw ignoring you...screw not cluttering this board.

Here is the PM sent to you in response to your post in the Strawbery thread:

Jumping on your pathetic ass...
I jumped on your ass not for no reason but for the following:



quote:
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I don't know shit about MGT except that it's a stupid card game. All those dumb games are stupid.
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I stated this in my reply to you. You KNEW why you were being attacked. Yet you play the innocent bystander card and say "I made one post referring to this thread and out of nowhere there's Wolf and FNF jumping on my ass for no good reason."

You filthy liar.


You rant about "free choice", as if we put a gun to your empty head and forced you to use black. It was just pointed out that the color choice made your worthless drivel even harder to understand. You may use your idiotic "sea-green" and I may get on your ass about it. That’s what freedom is about. Could you at least not be ignorant about what freedom really is all about?

This is sent as a PM to cut down on the worthless clutter on the boards. (Your sea-green drivel is enough as is)

__________________
I read all about your secrets at : Grouphug.us

Fist of all, it's FNF. Is that too tough for your one brain cell to handle? Well you can call me File if having two of the same letter in a word is too confusing for you.

I did NOT initiate the flame fest. You said you were a good MTG dueler. I used to play MTG up until about a year ago and thought you still played. I wanted to voice my reason for quitting the game and wanted to see if you'd agree. Instead you said:

Admit it, you initiated it by starting to make broad generalizations on all card games. I told you that it was ignorant, you said you liked being ignorant..... what did you expect?

I've posted this at least 3 times so far but you still don't get it. You're still the one being attacked by the cellar retards for no reason. How long IS the list of 'cellar retards' anyway? I bet in your mind it's the vast majority of the member list.

Please tell me, what's so revolting about me. No really, please. I'm dying to hear what you think.

Oh and it's "best" not bestest.

In your mind, play this out to its logical conclusion. It's one thing if OnxyCougar does it. It's annoying, but less so. But if you start doing it too, then EVERYONE is going to start doing it. Imagine if in every thread, everyone posted their messages in a different color. That is just the scenario I'm trying to avoid. That, and the contrast issue.

I don't mean to be mean, but I really, really hate it. Is there a way for me to be nice and still express my distaste? I want everyone to like me, but I must also remain true to myself.

Also, to apologize to me for posting green text <i>in green text</i> is an insult.

You are clearly not sorry and think my request is completely ridiculous. But because you want to get along, you humor me by saying "I'm sorry". Don't insult me and then tell me I'm the one that's flaming you.

At this point I believe that list includes everyone on The Cellar except LUVBUGZ and xoxoxoBruce (but only because she wants a majority of his stuff).

Have I mentioned, tsovaritch, that I love it when non-native speakers of English bust on native speakers for bad grammar? :highfive: (forgive the conceit of the fake smiley tag. It amuses me.)

Save your breath FNF
 

This is a game you will not win. Well, you'd win it, but it's really _not_ worth the fight. Look over the history here....everything is everyone else's fault. LB cannot assume even a minute amount of guilt for things that she's clearly started.

And even if you've done nothing wrong, she'll twist whatever you say to make it look like you do. We've all seen this first hand.

Dagney
(Proud member of the LB hates me club)

It's not all that common, but as you are convinced that everyone hates you and immediately jumps on you because you are personally reprehensible you are welcome to intrepret events as you like.

You know...the Cellar should open up a CafeShops store with "I hate LUVBUGZ" fan gear...

I'd buy a complementary tshirt for dave if someone tells me where to ship it...

No, it's "bestester".

wow,


there must really be some rough history here. I've been actively participating for roughly a month, and have seen several references to luvbugz in less than complimentary ways. She's been inactive for a couple of months, and the hatred is still fresh. I'd like a little background if it is possible to seperate the hurt feelings and frustration from the chain of events that led us here. I'm not trying to rekindle any old fights, so if we could shy away from actual examples and speak in broad form, that would probably be best.

luvbugz,
where have you been while you were away?

IS it your contention that the people here are all retards?


ps. i'm impressed that you have been able to piss wolf and juju off.....they're both pretty cool customers.

I'm no more pissed about BUGZ than I was about staceyv.

I promise you, you'll know when I'm pissed.

I'll hear the spent shells tinkling on the tarmac?:rattat:

FNF
 

I am not a troll. This is MY FUCKING THREAD so I can visit, lurk, post, etc. whenever, however I want to.

If you would calm the fuck down for one friggin second, I was already posting here when your PM came through. You gave me all of half a minute to read it and respond.

MTG is a stupid game, so are ALL the other card games. That is MY opinion. If you don't like MY opinion, that is YOUR problem.



You have got to be THE biggest hypocritical ass-wipe I know. Before you go off half-cocked about my brain cell capacity why don't you pick up a fucking dictionary. Fist this :flipbird: asshole!!!

FNF, NFN, whatever, I don't really give a shit what your name is.

I didn't say you or anyone else was attacking me. It has already been decided that IT is "friendly advice". So thanks for the "friendly advice" and remember that I'm not worth the effort so don't fucking offer it anymore.

I don't actually have a list of Cellar retards. That would be Dave with that list and I do believe it was/is quite long. Apparently, I was/is close to number one, or maybe just shy if it. *I* have a list of assholes with a few names on it to which yours has been added.

You revolt me because you are a ignorant, conceited, arrogant, asshole who finds glee in starting shit with people he doesn't know shit about. You are also a hypocritical fuck face who finds it necessary to put me down for things that you yourself turn around and do as well.

I am fully aware that it is "best", not "bestest". That was done for your benefit, so you could follow along without pausing for comprehension.

Unless she's pissed AT YOU, in which case you're not likely to be hearing much of anything again. :shotgun:

OK, admit it....you just wanted to use that smiley, didn't you? i should have added it to my post.....maybe i'll edit it back in.

Juju
 

I am insulted that you find my "I'm sorry" was not heartfelt. I am sorry for contributing to your problem regarding contrast, but I am not sorry for posting in sea-green. I can see, though, where you might have misunderstood my "I'm sorry" since it was posted in sea-green. I don't think your request is ridiculous I just don't see what right it is of yours to tell me not to post in sea-green.

Why exactly are the colors available if not to be used?

Anyhoo, I just think it is stupid to flame on for days about me posting in sea-green. What a frivolous thing to fritter one's time away with.

Re: FNF
 

Originally posted by LUVBUGZ
I am not a troll. This is MY FUCKING THREAD so I can visit, lurk, post, etc. whenever, however I want to.

I am referring to your general responses in other threads. They seem to be designed to piss somebody off.


If you would calm the fuck down for one friggin second, I was already posting here when your PM came through. You gave me all of half a minute to read it and respond.

MTG is a stupid game, so are ALL the other card games. That is MY opinion. If you don't like MY opinion, that is YOUR problem.


You posted it as a statement. There is a huge difference between me saying:

I think all card games are stupid.
and
All card games are stupid.

If you said "I think" I'd ignore it. Opinions are meant to be ignored. You made a statement. Statements are meant to be argued against and defended.


You have got to be THE biggest hypocritical ass-wipe I know. Before you go off half-cocked about my brain cell capacity why don't you pick up a fucking dictionary. Fist this :flipbird: asshole!!!


How am I hypocritical? Please explain. I know I am at times, everyone is when you get down to it, but I try to avoid it. Please find examples.


FNF, NFN, whatever, I don't really give a shit what your name is.


I spell your name correctly, the least you could do is spell mine correctly. If it's beyond your mental capacity then I can understand that, if not, at least make the effort.


I didn't say you or anyone else was attacking me. It has already been decided that IT is "friendly advice". So thanks for the "friendly advice" and remember that I'm not worth the effort so don't fucking offer it anymore.


If it's not "attacking" what does "jumping on my ass" mean? Are you saying we fucked you? Rode you about like a pony?



I don't actually have a list of Cellar retards. That would be Dave with that list and I do believe it was/is quite long. Apparently, I was/is close to number one, or maybe just shy if it. *I* have a list of assholes with a few names on it to which yours has been added.

Feel free to dig up my into post, I mention that I am an asshole. So I'm not at all surprised.

If dave did have a retard list, I'm certain that not only were you on it, but you were the head of the retard list and your name must have been in bold and highlighted...sadly not sea green as you'd have liked it.


You revolt me because you are an ignorant, conceited, arrogant, asshole who finds glee in starting shit with people he doesn't know shit about. You are also a hypocritical fuck face who finds it necessary to put me down for things that you yourself turn around and do as well.

Why am I ignorant?

I didn't start shit with you. You started the shit by saying that a game that I had a lot of respect for is "stupid" as are all card games. I bet your idea of "all card games" is "Hearts, FreeCell and solitaire"

Do show how I am hypocritical. It'd be really nice if you backed up your insults with proof.

For example, I know you only have one brain cell because you find yourself unable to write FNF correctly.


I am fully aware that it is "best", not "bestest". That was done for your benefit, so you could follow along without pausing for comprehension.

I'm sure you are. So far I think I have shown that despite the fact that English is my third language I am fully capable of communicating in it.

You beat me to it, SD. That was precisely what I was going to post. ;)

I think that for the purpose of this thread we can consider FnF the "new dave".

Jesus FNF, you are slow aren't you!!!

Here's how.....
quote FNF:
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Fist of all, it's FNF. Is that too tough for your one brain cell to handle? Well you can call me File if having two of the same letter in a word is too confusing for you.
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In the same breath that you moronically decide to attack my mental capabilities you can't even spell a simple English word such as "First".

Is that clear enough for you, simpleton?

Re: Juju
 

And what, exactly, is the difference?

Yes you do!!

Re: Juju
 

In my opinion, they are best used for emphasis. Just like bold and italics. Some of Lumberjim's posts are good examples.

Well, lumberjim, I was working out of state and had no access to the Cellar.

NO, it is NOT my contention that the people here are all retards. Actually I really *hate* that word because it was dipshit Dave's favorite. Initially, there were only two people I didn't like here, but as the incessant flamewars continued a few others reared their ugly heads. It seems like even if you personally have no beef with me you must join in or you're not cool in the eyes of the heavy-hitters.

There are several people who mainly watch this crap, commenting occasionally, which seems reasonable given that it must get old watching every thread I post in turn into a crapfest because some people have nothing better to do that offer me "friendly advice" while claiming that I'm not worth the effort. I call that hypocritical, but they'll deny it to the bitter end.

There are only four or so people here who I consider actual friends and have communicated with outside these Cellar walls. A few have actually backed me on stuff in here only to find themselves on the receiving end of the shit storm too. Albeit for only a short spell. I, on the other hand, will always be a target for "friendly advice" no matter what I say.

I have claimed blame for some of these incidents and apologized, but it doesn't matter. The shit continues. I really don't have a problem with people disagreeing with me or deciding not to like me, but I prefer they do so based on something I did or said to them, not just because the "popular crowd" is doing it.

As far as advice goes, I really do appreciate honest to goodness helpful advice, because I realize that I do need it, but trying to guise cruel, hurtful, put-downs and outright face-slapping insults as "helpful advice" is a huge crock of steaming shit. Although hard to listen to at times, a few people have offered true advice and I have listened and tried to follow it.

Many Cellarites are really interesting, intelligent people who I find enjoyable to communicate with, but it never fails that anything I post leads to an off-topic flow of liquid feces, hence ruining any enjoyment, enlightenment, or education I might find here.

So why do I stay, or come back, you ask? I'm not really sure to tell you the truth. I thought a few weeks away and this crap would blow over, but apparently that's not the case. I guess I just hope that some of these people will eventually get tried of starting shit over stupid little things and actually converse, discuss, debate as adults rather that name-calling and blows below the belt.

Yes, I know pissing off Wolf and Juju seems like a pretty good feat, but honestly I don't know how, when, or why I did. I'm sure they will be more than willing to pin-point every little last detail for you, but I'm referring to generally pissing them off. Juju has been helpful and friendly to me in the past, but obviously that's no longer. Wolf was one of the originals to say let's give LUVBUGS a chance, but obvioulsy that's no longer too. I always liked Wolf cus she could kill ya at a hundred yards out, blindfolded, with one hand tied behind her back. I think that's a cool skill. Also the fact that she can make fun of the crazies and get away with it is pretty cool too, but somewhere in fray I have managed to make her shit list as well.

So, lumberjim, for what it's worth that's my side of the story. I'm sure the others will bend your ear with theirs and I am equally confident that those points of view will differ greatly from mine, but that's all that any of this is.....a point of view.:)

Well, Juju, you are entitled to take my "I'm sorry" any way you want to, but I was not trying to hurt, attack or insult you. I was merely trying to express my fondness for green in my posts. As you may or may not have noticed my joy of green posts has indeed faded as I mentioned it would.

And, as per your previous advice, I have included paragraphs in my really long post so as to ease the readers difficulty in wading through it.:)

I have noted your opinion on the use of colored text along with your use of lumberjim's posts as examples to back your opinion.

As I am no longer posting in sea-green I feel as though this point of disagreement has been settled and no longer wish to engage in any further discussion regarding said topic.

Thank You,
LB

No, Luvbugz hasn't hired me as a PR person. Why would you even ask that? Because I was asking people to give her a chance? Isn't that something any tolerant, decent person would do?
Should I say thanks for the backhanded compliment/opinion I never asked for?

If I recall correctly, while you and dave were going at it over April, you were compared to him by other people here. And rightfully so. People can generally be categorized into a few groups. I think you and dave are in the same one. I didn't like the way he got personally insultive and I don't like when you do it, either.

Just saying, "I'm an asshole," doesn't make it ok to treat people badly, and insult them. Doing so only confirms you're an asshole. That's not a good thing. Recall the thread you made those remarks in and how everyone jumped on you. Alot of people called you a troll. I was one of the few that tried to see beyond the trollish bullshit and ask you about Russia, because I'm interested in that. I was nice to you, you didn't insult me, and our relationship continued rather uneventfully until recently, when you started walking that line between sarcasm and insulting.

If you don't want to be compared to dave, don't act like him.
I posted it on this thread because I saw whit's post:

I thought that was begging for a new flame war, so I posted quickly, asking people not to start up again, because it doesn't do any good. Bugz is Bugz, and she's not going to change any time soon, no matter how much you berate her or call names. If you don't like what she posts, why can't you just ignore it and go on to the next one? Because you're an asshole? Again, that doesn't excuse your behavior.

I thought with April's presence, that we understood the difference between "immature" and "adult" behavior. You called her a child and immature and a bunch of other names, like a child in the school yard. FNF, you're a reasonably intelligent, mostly lucid writer. Why do you degrade your posts with all that childish crap? You're above that. Aren't you?

Actually, I figured out a great compromise. For those Cellarites who use Privoxy (v. 3.0.2), you can modify your config files like this:

In your user.action file, add the following:<blockquote>{+filter{site-specifics}}
cellar.org</blockquote>In the default.filter file, in the "FILTER: site-specifics" section, add the following:<blockquote>s/<font color="indigo">/<font color="black">/g
s/<font color="seagreen">/<font color="black">/g</blockquote>Users can then post in indigo and seagreen to their hearts' content, and it will still appear as black to you.

This is awesome. I think you'll find that people will "get" what you have to say more often that way. :)

By the way, I also added this to the "FILTER: site-specifics" section in the default.filter file:<blockquote>s/This person is on your <b>Ignore List<\/b>\.//g</blockquote>Though I only have j03L10T on my ignore list now, I used to have Nickname on the list, and I found it extremely annoying to be constantly reminded (in bold, no less) that he was on my ignore list. This solves that problem and allows one to put people on my ignore list knowing they won't still annoy me.

Yeah, it is a little complicated to set up, as the configuration options are all in text files that you have to edit. But I don't know of any other programs that allow for the level of flexibility and power that Privoxy provides.

Wow...this thread has really grown. Quickly. You know...like a cancer.

psst! lovebugz......i have an idea.........[color=brick red]post under a new name[/color].........what you are experiencing is "the red headed step child" treatment. You admittedly stepped in shit a few times and, although you have made the effort to right yourself with those cellarites that had issues with you, they still remember.

It doesn't seem like people are going to forget, either. Seemed to me like you didn't really do much to deserve the gang tackle you took for using sea green. However,I can't argue against them either,as I don't know enough about what you did to provoke them. This is because I am unwilling to go back and read all of your old flame wars . Mostly because I'm lazy, but also because I don't think it would be meet of me to hold a past that I had no personal stake in against you. Now, my opinion, honestly is a bit shaded by what I've read about you, and I'm sorry about that, but thats just the way that works....you're infamous.

Anyway, you have a mostlyclean slate with me.
and cougar, :beer: your advice to FnF and Luvbugz was right on target. Salud!

OC
 

Well, thanks again for the kind, helpful advice. I have, as usual, taken it to heart and will do my best to follow through. You *know* how hard that Ignore Button can be.

On a more cheerful note, I can't wait to get my tree and decorate it so you can see how purple it will be. For the last four or so years I've gone totally purple, before it was purple and green, and it is beautiful. I *know* you'll be jealous.;)

LB:)

Luvbugz,

Yeah what Onyx said.

And don't listen to lumberjim. If you posted under another name, people would be able to tell it's you, and it would cause a shitstorm like you've never seen before. :rattat: :turd: :turd: :turd:

Welcome back,

B

Lumberjim
 

Well, the name change has been suggested to me before, but I never felt comfortable with that. I am me and no matter what user name I use I'd still be me. Which, coincidentally, would be extremely easy to figure out and as you may have noticed, trying to change your Cellar stature by pulling the 'ol name switch a roo is definitely frowned upon here, therefore I have never gone that route. I figure if people don't like me as LUVBUGZ they'd hate me more as something else.

Anyhoo, I thank you for taking the time to ask AND listen to my view of the situation and for not jumping on the band wagon just because *almost* everybody else is. :)

[sarcasm] I'm sure given enough time I'll manage to piss you off too:D . [/sarcasm]

Brita
 

Hey B,

Yeah, what you said too. I was just finishing up my post to Lumberjim when I saw what you posted. That's exactly why I never have and never will post under a different name. Great minds think alike;) .

Thanks for the welcome back. How's Dusty doin'? Kiss the little begger for me will ya? Too bad we live so far apart cuz I have this really cool cat that I rescued earlier this year that I have to find a home for. I usually end up keeping everything I rescue, but I'm currently two over my limit and my landlord is getting on my ass about it. He is an adult so it's harder to find him a good home, but I know you would be a great mom for him.

I went to your site that was linked here, somewhere, to look at your "Nakkita" thingie you did, I know that's not it, sorry I can't recall the title. I wanted to see some of your "pixel magic" in motion, but it took FOREVER to download and then after all that it said I couldn't view it. I'm no 'pooter wizard and my 'pooter sucks so I don't know what the deal was, but I wanted to see it.

Oh, and your name is really neat too. What nationality are you or is your name just unique in and of itself? PM me if you don't want that common knowledge, I'm just curious.

LUVBUGZ:)

Re: Brita
 

I think "Malaika" is what you mean. I've tried to make the thing as downloadable as possible. You need Quicktime to view it.

My name is Swedish. Dusty's cool as ever. I can PM you some other pleasantries.

Re: Re: Brita
 

Yeah, that's it. Actually, come to think of it I was using my friends 'pooter, not mine, cuz mine was screwed up as usual and he *hates* Quicktime so I didn't risk the fecal plume that would errupt if I downloaded Quicktime on his 'pooter. I have somewhat fixed mine and I do have Quicktime so I'll try again.

Cool name, cool cat, cool B. :cool: :cool: :cool:

Pleasantries, in any form, would be greatly appreciated.:D

LB:)

Hopefully, one day, we'll all find Inner Peace
 

Symptoms of Inner Peace:
- An unmistakable ability to enjoy each moment.
- Loss of interest in judging others.
- Loss of interest in interpreting actions of others.
- Loss of interest in conflict.
- Loss of ability to worry.
- Frequent, overwhelming episodes of appreciation.
- Contented feelings of connectedness with others and nature.
- Frequent attacks of smiling through the eyes from the heart.
- Tendency to let things happen rather than make them happen.
- Tendency to think and act spontaneously rather than from fear based on past experiences.
- Susceptibility to love extended by others as well as the uncontrollable urge to extend love.

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LB:)

I think a map would be more helpful than a description of the destination. :)

Re: Brita
 

Personally, I don't care whether LUVBUGZ continues to post or not, but I wish she's stop constantly talking about her cunt.

***note to BUGZ: You might want to check out what UrbanDictionary.com says about your pooter. Looks like someone already included you on the site (8th definition).

You are so right about that. If I had the map none of us would be having this conversation. I don't know what got into me last night when I posted that. I was feeling kinda warm and fuzzy with a little Rodney King mixed in.:rolleyes:

Thanks for the map OC, now if I could only read the darn thing.;)

Think about it though...

Doesn't inner peace sound awfully dull?

Yes I was the guy in Kung Fu practice who during the one minute medication would open one eye to see if anybody else was geting bored.

I don't think that was Kung Fu, pally. ;) That, or your instructor had some interesting theories on preparing to fight.

"Now, place the needle between your first two toes..."

Pre practice we always meditated...then they'd 'stretch' and work out..

Then they'd try to kill us...although they said 'train'. But I knew better.

Also, NEVER ask 'what' a specific move is for, because I now know that deep inside they're just waiting for you to ask, waiting for that chance to show you just what that move is for so that you never forget...

That all sounds fine, I was just wondering what sort of one-minute medication you'd get. Did the instructor pass out dime bags, or what?

Ah, the volumes of humor in a typo. It just won't quit being funny, no matter how hard I try. Cough.

Aside from the fact that you meant this to be a hurtful comment, I found that site fucking hilarious. I knew some :censored: would eventually give me shit about this, but I didn't expect it to be from a female. I truely wasn't aware that pooter to the less-civilized meant CUNT. Aside from my use of the word to mean COMPUTER, I've also associated it with ASSHOLE and FART, but never CUNT. Like they say you learn something new everyday, thanks for the tip Pooter.

Erm. As a certified asshole I think I can say with a degree of certainty that 99 44/100% pure's comment was in no way designed to be hurtful.

Personally I thought it was hilarious...

For the lazy, the eighth definitition for 'pooter reads:
Heheh. Funny. I wouldn't say it's hurtful to suggest this applies to you... probably just playful, or jabbing. Unless of course your emotional skin has the strength of a wet kleenex. Lighten up a little.

From a bystanders position, such as yours, I would agree with you HP, but given 99's past commentary to and about me I'm quite sure it was meant as a hurtful remark. Now, not to over analyze this, but if 99 had chosen to refer the reader to def. 8 and based her commentary solely on that, I would definitely not have take such offense, but she remarks about me discussing my CUNT (which is a highly offensive word to a woman, IMO) yet if you read def. 8 it has nothing to do with CUNTS.

Granted, this may have not been what 99 meant by her remarks, but this is how I took them. And if she in no way meant to offend me, then she will in no way be offended by me reply. Either way, it's all good. As far as my emotional skin, I think I'm up to a wet Brawny paper towel strength, well past those "other" brands.;)

Mary had a little lamb
And it was always gruntin'
She tied it to a five bar gate
And kicked its little pooter in

What's wrong with being called a cunt? I love cunts!

Hey UT,

Happy Belated Birthday. I love the new smilies.

So.......is that what you meant by "From piss to poetry"?;)

LB

If you were a girl, Donald, you might not feel this way. How would you feel if some dork-ass called little Sarah a CUNT? Would you *love* it then? Maybe, you would, but in my experience, and from discussing the word with other women, CUNT is just not a nice word to be called.

I realize it is just a word like BITCH, DICK, ASSHOLE, etc., but for some reason it holds some especially negative connotation for most women.:(

My plan is to reach a point with her where she'd either laugh at the person, or just have no reaction at all.

Juju
 

That sounds reasonable, but I think it would be better if no one called her, or any other female, that in the first place. I know you can't really control what other butt-heads do or say, but I don't see anything wrong with expressing my displeasure with their use of the word.

That's exactly the point, though. I can't control what happens outside the house. People <i>will</i> call her names. So it's much more effective to just not give the words such a holy power.

Otherwise, you're just setting yourself up to be manipulated. And I <i> hate</i> being manipulated.