This whole discussion is bullshit really. It's simple. I just won't participate. The rules seem obscure and subjective and I really just can't be bothered with dumb shit like this these days.

They're not rules, they're requests for spoiler warnings, but whatever.

Fuck me that was an intense episode. I think this may turn out to be the Walking Dead's best series. All three episodes so far have knocked it out the park. And I am loving the narrative structure they've gone for. The way it all dovetails together is just great.


Spoilers below:

I don't recall Rick looking that scared and vulnerable for a very long time, as he does at the end sitting in that camper van with the herd spilling out around it. With the beard gone and looking more like the old Rick, it seems to emphasise that vulnerabilty.

I had a Walking Dead dream last night. The first I've had since I was in the nuthouse I think. Although back then it was probably a very bad idea to gorge on the boxsets alone in my room when I was already paranoid and terrified by my environment.

This one was rather yummy, involving Daryl.
Disturbingly yummy, as he was preparing to take advantage of a man who had betrayed them, been bitten but not yet turned. He figured he'd soon be an unperson, so why not? He reached across me to get the baby oil from my bedside table (no, I won't explain further) and then my stupid phone alarm went off because I had an early morning blood test.

Damnit!

No rape dream should be erotic of course.
And I would not sanction that behaviour in real life.
But somehow, in the dream, it was very masculine and sexy.

Sorry.

Well Jesus Harry christ. I finally got caught up on twd andcame here only to find arguments and discussions I can't read because some of us poor folks mostly get here from our phones and I can't be all highlighty text person. I purposely didn't come here before I caught up (thanks to brother going out of town and offering me his residence for a few days) because. ..hello...spoilers expected.

So fuck this. Maybe I can get a look on break at work tonight.

I need to gets me some of however everyone else manages.

Grumble

Ok, well, then I'll stay out of this thread when I am not up to date - Sundae should probably do the same. That way people can post spoilers without whiting out the text.

Do whatever everyone else thinks is right. I'm just mad at the world all the time and please take things I say with a grain of salt.

For another thread: I can't get out from under this depression.

As always, sorry.

I'm looking forward to reading your highlighted text later, dana, and discussing the show. One thing in particular. ..

So, all spoilers, all the time:

Before I had my doubts that Glenn really died I actually yelled "NOOOOOOOOOOO."

They didn't do an In Memoriam on Talking Dead so...

I don't think he's dead. I loved the touch of hearing Glenn on the Walkie Talkie, and I felt like it was foreshadowing as I fondly remembered "hey dumbass, yeah you in the tank" when Rick and Glenn first met. So at the end of episode 6 it's up in the air who is asking for help on the talkie...and I don't care how the interwebz sez they've super-analyzed it and it can't be Glenn...I think it's Glenn. Though, maybe too soon for them to reveal that, don't we need to wait like 5 years until the second half of the season to find that out?

Maggie preggers makes me yawn, but whatever.

Merritt Wever, who plays Denise, played Zoey on Nurse Jackie. Loved her on that show. She was hilarious, I don't think she'll get to be really hilarious on TWD.
(Did anyone else feel like Tara was framing her vajayjay for Denise when she turned that chair around and straddled it?)

I'm up to season 5 episode 14. I've been binge watching.

It's immersive foshizzel. I find myself wanting to purchase a katana or a dagger with a 10" blade.

I know I would probably get eaten in the first week of a zombie apocalypse, because I'm too old and fat to outrun the biters, but I can't help identifying with the characters and imagining who I would be like.

That's the wrong way to think about it. In the first week, you would join the stronger team and partake in the smorgasbord of the weak team that is running scared. mmm. Brains.

The stronger team is actually the Cellar.
All holed up in Elspode's friends' nuclear bunker.
GD walkers don't stand a chance.

No need to bother Elspode.

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Okay.

I'm a bit weirded out by the last episode I watched. Season 6, episode 13 apparently (I had to look it up as I don't keep track).

Everything I have now read online - and I never pre-read reviews for this series, although I'm happy to read the graphic novels - has suggested that Carol is having a crisis of conscience. It's completely accepted by all reviewers and fans, and by an interview with Melissa McBride.

I think I must be far far worse at interpretation than I thought, because I swear the character was playing possum all the way through. I mean yes, some regret. But not that she was genuinely thinking about Jesus and atoning for her sins etc. And okay, it didn't stop her burning people alive. But these people wanted to kill her, to kill her pregnant friend, were not genuinely interested in a trade (what a SHAME! Alicia Witt would have been magical in Rick's group).
Carol killed a child with less compunction. She killed two people who might or might not have been ill.
Now she's fretting about killing the bad guys?!

I know it fits.
I completely accept that the cumulative effect and the responsibility and the horror could catch up on her, so I'm not criticising the writing. Or the acting.
I just feel bad for reading it so wrong.

Maybe all those people I killed really were quite nice human beings...

Carol is a badass

She was playing possum. But she's also suffering a crisis of conscience, indicated by the scene with her kill tally notebook in the previous episode, and her discomfort with the idea of Maggie being too hard. An earlier Carol would have been all for that, but now she was sort of investing her moral center in Maggie.

Why didn't they just drive the truck down the tracks?

And furthermore... If Daryll can ride a motorcycle, he can drive a stick shift

And why are they sending out teams of 2 and 3 when there's a clear and present danger?

And the irresponsibility! Abraham letting Eugene be on his own, Daryl letting Rosita go on her own, and Daryl and Rosita not paying attention to Denise, when she wanders off the tracks.

Infuriating

I had a Walking Dead dream last night.
I dreamed a whole episode. No spoilers, although if you haven't watched this series so far, there may be some inadvertent ones.

Note - what follows has gaping plot holes, as I was actually dreaming, not writing a script.

Daryl decided that the bast way to sort out the friendly from the non-friendly living was to burn their faces, although leave them with medical supplies so they didn't die of it. That way no-one could turn up and be all pretendy-friendly. You got a burned face, you're with the bad guys.

Rick went along with idea, and added his own twist.
He got all of his group tattooed, so that they could be identified. Little hearts on their shoulders. At this point I was actually in the show, and was nearly discovered by the burnt-faces, when I was hiding in the tattoo parlour.

See, they'd captured Carole, realised her tattoo was recent and there must therefore be a reason for it - body modification not being top of the list when it comes to surviving, and gone to every one in the local area. They knew that if they found the right one, it would lead them back to Rick.

Also Carl had grown up. I mean really grown up. He was played by the same actor but was in his late twenties, and some kind of disease had made all his hair fall out. Like all of it, eyelashes, pubes etc. It had also given him a lumpy mis-shapen head, like a potato.

It's quite obvious where most of the above comes from. But I also woke up clutching a heart-shaped bead really hard, so I didn't drop it and alert the burnt-faces. Only to find I not only had an empty hand, but had dug my nails into my palm hard enough to leave marks. Tcha.

In some ways this was the weaker of the last few eps. Some of the decisions made and some of the dialogue felt a little off. Crowbarred in for plot purposes. Like the whole thing with Daryl and the stick shift. The only reason for that little exchange was to get in the stuff about Denise's background. It kind of jarred. And the other examples already listed too.

That said, for the most part it was still a really good episode. This series has been so good. The way they are playing around with narrative structure is really exciting and fresh. They've been doing interesting stuff all season.

And if Mellissa Mcbride doesn't get an emmy for this show there's no justice in the world. Her portrayal of Carol is brilliant. She is one of the best female characters I have ever seen in a tv drama.

Agreed. She's one of my favorites. She is somehow able to convey a person that is vulnerable, timid and uncertain, yet cold, fierce and unforgiving all in one moment. Very complex character. I doubt they wrote her that way. She is immersed in the role to the point where she has created herself.

Just finished watching Season 6.
I watched most of it when it came out in the UK, but missed the last episode (being in rehab and all that)
I have to stay strong re series 7, which probably means staying out of this thread. There is someone who wants me to watch it with him, but I have serious issues about associating with him. What a choice, eh?

Anyway, I have a rough idea of how things will go. I have the graphic novel compendium. And I know Ezekiel and Shiva are coming. OMG I can't wait.
Not a spoiler, it's in the trailers apparently.
But I've yet to hear him - I hope he either has a really deep Southern accent or a strong Caribbean one.