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henry quirk 10-04-2012 08:41 AM

HA!
 
;)

tw 10-04-2012 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Adak (Post 832979)
That's the part that is not settled, in my mind. First, will they move from peaceful nuclear work, into the military use? Second, if they do move into the military side of nuclear power, will they use it?

The wild card is a word 'they'. Who are 'they'? We have not a clue. Diplomats would know better and best not say much.

Making understanding more complex are a number of Ahmadinejad's subordinates who have been detained. Have the mullahs had a change of heart?

Well, among the mullah's were statements that said Obama clearly has a better and not adversarial attitude. Some analysts regarded this as a indication that Iran no longer needed or might back away from nuclear weapons.

But at the same time, others in Iran see a Republican president as more 'Axis of Evil' threats. So Iran must continue developing technology and processing uranium - just in case.

So how much power does Ahmadinejad have? Clearly he leads the wacko extremist faction who sees war as a solution. Or believes war is inevitable. What do the other 'powers that be' think?

We cannot view Iran as a monolithic nation. It truly is a nation of many and varied opinions. Ahmadinejad was elected as soon as the US began threatening nations and then started invading without justification. If we want a more peaceful Middle East, we must start by swearing off that 'big dic' attitude so prevalent in a wacko extremists wing of the Republican party.

We must openly confront the so many Americans actively promoting hate of Muslims (as if Muslims were niggers). The Mosque in Lower Manhattan exposed widespread hate in America that also endorses unilaterally attacking nations. This only makes the Iranians insecure; need a nuclear bomb.

But again, to say more requires defining the many 'theys'. And then defining what each 'they' is thinking. Too many unknowns to answer any of your questions.

Undertoad 10-04-2012 01:57 PM

He lost the last election - but who's counting?

DanaC 10-04-2012 02:41 PM

Nicely put t-dub.

Adak 10-05-2012 04:59 AM

Tw, I REALLY wish you would NOT use the "N", word! That kind of racist remark should be heard no more.

tw 10-05-2012 09:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Undertoad (Post 833017)
He lost the last election - but who's counting?

Ahmadinejad did not lose an election. Term limits means he is out in 2013. The question is who will be elected their next president. Many of his subordinates are possilble presidents. Will another extremist takes power? Or someone more moderate, such as Rafsanjani, take the reins? More 'big dic' threats from extremist conservatives, like George Jr or Netanyahu, will surely guarantee another Ahmadinejad is elected.

Undertoad 10-05-2012 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by tw (Post 833104)
Quote:

Originally Posted by Undertoad
He lost the last election - but who's counting?

Ahmadinejad did not lose an election.

I asked, who's counting?

The answer to that is, the Mullahs. The Mullahs counted the votes.

Ahmadinejad lost the election at the ballot box. He was re-appointed by the Mullahs at the counting.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iranian...election,_2009

henry quirk 10-05-2012 10:50 AM

"Term limits means he is out in 2013"
 
HA!

He ain't goin' nowhere.

tw 10-05-2012 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Undertoad (Post 833106)
The answer to that is, the Mullahs. The Mullahs counted the votes.

Also being asked is whether Ahmadinejad can put forth his choosen man. Or if the Mullahs will make that choice. More of the many 'theys'.

It may have been in an interview. Ahmadinejad will not even commit to recommending one of his subordinates for president.

That election will be Spring 2013. Clearly a foolish military adventure by Israel would drastically change everything. Make it virutally impossible for any moderate to be elected.


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