But I'm afraid of dogs!

Well then just get a friend with a dog to live next to you! Or something!

But srsly, so what if multiple Google products share what they know about you? You do realize that if you have a club card at your local supermarket, they know every single thing you've ever bought there.

But what harm has it done to you? None. Never met anyone who had anything bad happen to them as the result of having a club card. For years people claimed that the insurance companies were going to figure out who was buying condoms and shit like that -- well guess what, 15 years on, none of that slippery slope stuff seems to have happened. They used the data just like they said they were going to.

OMG they are going to TARGET you with ads. OMG you know what that means? You'll see ads for things you might actually want, while using Google's excellent services for free! Yup, sucks to be you!

And if you are running Firefox, (and probably other browsers that I don't know too well) you can go into private browsing mode when you want to do searches for hemorrhoid cream or whatever. They can still see that someone at your IP address is doing those searches for spots to bury dead hobos, but they aren't linking them to your account because you won't be signed in. Then when you want to use your cookies again so you don't have to remember your Cellar password, you just exit private browsing mode. In Firefox it's: tools> start private browsing and then to stop, it's tools> stop private browsing. Or just use the keyboard shortcut Ctrl+Shift+P.

That's pretty much the way I feel about it.


Maybe with a bit less sarcasm. :D

(was that over the top? i feel like i can't control my sarcasm knob these days)

SamIam has some trained attack kitties you might be able to borrow.

Thanks UT. Message received.
I may need a reminder though.

Not really. Just joshin' ya'.

...maybe eat some more protein.

:p:

Lehmann's is a gateway drug pusher. Before you know it you'll be chipping flint and pounding sinew. Don't say I didn't warn you.

BTW, Lehmann's is developing a non- electric version of the internet.

@UT, you're right it does suck to be me, but that has nothing to do with google.

Having been raised in the era when "1984" was a best-seller, I strongly doubt
Google's new business plan would be restricted to customized ads.
Last May, Facebook and Google were contemplating purchase of Skype,
until it was bought for $8.5B by MicroSoft.
Google+ was initiated with the User's real name.

The US Supreme Court denied law enforcement to attach GPS to someone's car
without a search warrant. But why will LE need a search warrant
when they can just do a FaceBook-, Google-, or Bing- search to follow an individual's activities.

Silly, I know, but ... how do you, or anyone, know there has been or will be no harm done.
In particular, I worry that employers (businesses) will exploit this in whatever way they see fit.

Gizmodo
Mat Honan
1/25/12
Google’s Broken Promise: The End of "Don’t Be Evil"

Then there is Google's YouTube connection...

I agree with Lamplighter on this.

Anyone know how the facial recognition software accomodates for youth features? Is there an age past which they can be sure your face isn't growing? I thought, for example, that men's ears and noses could continue growing to a certain degree their whole lives.

yeah, this is no big deal to me. maybe, since I never have looked for a penis enlargement product, my emails will have something I actually am interested on the right side.

Sick of my tapatalk sig

FIFY

^^^FTW^^^

You have linked to an explanation of facial recognition software on the iPhone and told us that this suggests YouTube is a Problem... why?

It appears to be because somebody filmed the explanation, and put that video on YouTube.

This is paranoia out of ignorance, and demonstrates your lack of understanding so thoroughly that it's painful to point it out, like I'm being harsh on you.

UT, Do you mean ignorance of the technical aspects of facial recognition software,
or ignorance of the abuse that might result from Google's new policies?
I am certainly ignorant of the former, but I'll argue the latter.

I feel several issues were revealed in that link.
Primarily that law enforcement will undoubtly be using the software in the field - without warrants - for "identification".
Thus "mug shots" will permanently accumulate of completely innocent individuals.
Likewise, the existing database of YouTube will no longer be under the control of the User, and civil rights will be out the window.

Here is another example... this one focused on Google's Picasa, but it the same for YouTube

Cyberbullying Research Center
Sameer
10/7/2008
The issue is NOT the technical aspects of facial recognitions software.
Nor is the issue a matter of whether or not law enforcement has the right to identify a person.

The issue is the change in control of the information obtained by Google
... without the consent of the User.

OK, you confused me by objecting to YouTube and then posting a YouTube video entirely unrelated to YouTube.

You are now just complaining about technology and data privacy in general terms, not about Google. Got it.

And BTW, yes, law enforcement needs a warrant to ask Google about specific issues, and Google's new and entirely transparent privacy policy won't change that, nor would it change the amount or connection of information available to law enforcement.

And BTW yes, if a person makes their Facebook page available to the public it will also be available to cops. And if they don't, it won't. Okay then?

It's entirely consensual. You read their privacy policy and if you don't agree with it you don't use all the free Google products.

There's almost no change. And if somebody had asked you a week ago whether Google uses your Google Maps lookups to improve your Google search experience, you would have said, well I fucking hope so, because that's a no-brainer, has no impact on my privacy, and would be extremely useful information that would help me get to what I'm looking for and improve my life.

Don't pee yourself because the WaPo wrote an inflammatory headline. You'll be peeing yourself every morning!

It's not unrelated to YouTube, and I'm not complaining about technology.
In my post immediately above, I specifically said:
Likewise, you miss my argument when you say:
That little word "if" carries a lot of weight.
Google's new policy takes the "if" out of the equation.
The (signed in) Google User can no longer opt out.

There's an old saying that Congress can write any law,
and Congress can also change any existing law.
On March 1st, Google will show how this option can spread.

Google doesn't publish your information at all!

And it still won't!!

It's just telling you, openly, that it's going to do what every single other company in the world has always done!!!

OK, this tidbit from that article really interested me. It's the ultimate vanity search, and I really want to do it. I would love to see what other pictures of me are out there in the world. I'm certain they exist. I've been to enough tourist destinations and gotten in front of enough people taking pictures of the White House or whatever that I'm sure strangers have my picture. I downloaded the most recent version of Picassa and can't figure out how to do what they are talking about. Picassa can scan the images on my computer and also in my web albums for pictures of me. But how do I get it to scan Flickr or strangers' Picassa albums? Or is he saying a hacker could do that?

I want my ultimate vanity search.

Are you saying someone could google my goo-goo-googly eyes? :eek:

That's what Lamplighter's article is saying, but I don't think so.

The government probably can, sure. But us regular stalkers can't.

I just hope they don't have ass recognition software, or some people will never be able to run for public orifice, I mean office. Or shouldn't. ;)

UT may be right about my paranoia.
I opened my email this a.m. and there was a email from Google, explaining their new privacy policy :eek:

OMG, are they reading my posts on The Cellar ?

Then, slowly I remembered I had posted a question on Google Help forum the other day.
Crisis averted :redface:

Actually, I got the same email in both my gmail accounts.

In trying to figure out how to to the ultimate vanity search, I went to gmail, google+, and picassa. All 3 had notices of the new policy.

Here's the sort of thing to be paranoid about:

http://news.cnet.com/8301-31921_3-57...sites-visited/

But actually, no need to be paranoid about it after all... it'll be struck down as unconstitutional, if it ever does pass. Moronic state legislators are always making news with their moronic ideas of what good law is.

Agreed
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Agreed
;)

It's kind of amusing to see how Google has you pegged.
Go to https://www.google.com/settings/ads/onweb/
and make sure you are logged in to Google.

For me:

I recently looked up Heidi Klum's Halloween costumes to show my wife when I heard Heidi and Seal were splitting. So that may be the body art connection. and I looked up Metropolis for some reason recently. So that's the silent movies. I'm only 44, so it offends me that they have me lumped in with the higher age group, but *shrug*.

They have me as 25-34 and interested in Beauty and Fitness as well.

This proves that nobody at Google is looking at my pics.

*love the use of "persist" here

Lotta text, but none of the info like you display. I'm logged into gmail. Am I missing something?

They're pretty much spot on for me. Interest in technology and computer programming. Interest in movies. But it thinks I'm in the 25-34 age group.

Maybe it's averaging out my real age and the fact that I act like I'm 12.

It thinks I'm a BOYYYYYYY. :bawling:


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I'm logged into Gmail. Am I missing something?

Click on the link in Glatt's post #93

I did and this is what I got:

I get the same thing classic. I think it's because I routinely delete my cookies

The clocks thing is from the last few days, I was researching a sunrise clock for Minifob. And the Linux/Unix stuff is Mr. Clod using my system when he's on call, not me. But I don't ever bother to delete my cookies, so I'm not sure why this is all it can come up with for me. I am an enigma they just can't pigeonhole!

Google thinks I'm a teenager living in my parents basement.

Google thinks you're tw? just kidding, but I gotta admit
his would be an interesting one to see. :eek:

I delete everything, every time I close a browser. I run ccleaner every time before I log out of a profile.

HA!

Proves that my process of always posting false info in every profile I fill out has worked..... :)

Well sure. We all know old people are liars. :D

Of course they are. Look at Lamplighter! ;) Perfect example.

You have a small, mean spirit, Merc.

A new CEO takes over the business, feels he must do something different to distinguish himself.
I predict Larry Page will cause Google to jump the shark...

NY Times
David Streit
2/9/12

An ‘Entertainment Device’ Is Expected From Google

Lose it or Google will use it...

CNET
Charles Cooper
February 29, 2012
Clock counts down as Google privacy change looms

Since my history is deleted each time I log off, there is apparently nothing for me to do.
Do people still save their search histories? Do you?
Out of curiosity - If so, Why?

Do you have a G-mail account, or G+, or YouTube, or Documents, or Picasa, or Calendar, or .... ?

yes. The gmail account has already been bastardized. That happened a long time ago. The ads that come up that are so "personalized.
They're already reading every email.

The sheer amount of data that Google collects bothers me, even though I really like their products. Google Chrome is the best browser for me, that I have used, and now I have everything set up the way I like I really can't be bothered to get a new browser.

Anyway, it really sucks that they would do that to your daughter. If there's an age limit then they should make it clear that there's an age limit. There's a lot of stuff they don't make all that clear...

Do you file taxes electronically? Then that company owns information on your tax return. If concerned about something as trivial as Google, then be far more concerned about what your bank shares with others.

How much about you is routinely sold for profit? Go to annualcreditreport.com to learn what others routinely know about you. What Google knows is trivial.

BTW, that is not freecreditreport.com - something that can end up costing money if not careful.

One of the rules of the internet is that any site with "free" in it will try to take your money.

Google keeps calling me fat. I keep getting ads for some plus size clothing company called The Woman Within. Which is offensive because it implies that if you're overweight your 'woman' is 'within'...way 'within', not 'without.' Also the models are those 'plus-size' models who aren't really 'plus-size' making you think if you buy their clothes you will look 'un-plus-size' like the real 'woman within.'

WTF Google? Are you looking at me, or did you arrive at this conclusion because that one time I told someone to bite my big fat ass? :lol:

Google is hard on my self-esteem. Google needs to rethink their plan. Google can bite my big fat ass.

The Exec from Goldman-Sachs is making news, and so
the news media is picking up on another story today by
James Whittaker, a well known Exec who left Google recently.

It's worth reading the entire blog, but here are some snips.

JW on Tech
Why I left Google
13 Mar 2012