oh for christ's fuck

Alex: This hairy and regressive creature lives in the depths of cellars and regularly pounds his chest and salivates at the sight of boobies.

Webster was American. ;)

exactly cloud

and Big V. I assume that because, like the others who think 288 is the correct answer, based on the common assumption of bedmas, which HLJ points out, excel gives the answer of 288. Doesn't the financial/ business world trust excel to give the common( generally assumed answer) If the spreadsheet is going to go off half cocked and assume a notation other than what is written, I say, Cock too.

To get the answer of 2, a person would have to rewrite the notation using brackets. [ ]

Wow, I'm too dumb to be here.

:bolt:

yes

Damn, it's like some knights of some round table all up in heah.

So, tell me, (no matter what you call the damn things) how does making them curvy or making them squared have anything to do with the conundrum of the problem?

It's like...oh you know what? That 9 has a curvy bottom, therefore it must be multiplied by the half-life of the foundation of the numerator. Now, if it were STRAIGHT, that there would be a whole different story. That right there would tell you that the product of the synapse near the juncture would be 23. [\thinktanktrifecta]

:lol2:

May I join you? ;)

:smack:

Please My Dear Aunt Sally = 288

Get out while the gettin's good, 'vana, it's a damn clusterfuck!

I actually hate math

I, too, actually hate meth.





I mean math. I hate math.

They're worlds apart. Like the difference between a dash and a hyphen. Like a capital I and a roman numeral I. Like tomato and tomato.

Willfull obtuse-ness.

How, tell me how?

One means something other than the other one means? Please, tell me. I don't remember that from math class.

Well you said you stayed awake in English, so one would think you could manage a litle Gone With The Wind reference? Or should we call it American in your case. When trying to solve an international language difference, let's see, shall we use an American dictionary, or an international source readily available at the fingertips? Hmmmm. One which actually does contain the answers you seek. I would post them for you, but, Miss Cloud O'Hara, it's about damn time you learned to do some stuff for yourself. Or you could not think about it today, if you can't possibly bear it, after all, tomorrow is another day.

Yeah, I didn't think so. :rolleyes:

Wow, what an impressive gene pool you must have to come up with the most original trolling style I have ever seen.

I would not have thought a math problem would have so engaged the Cellar. I'm quite pleased. We need more.

Soooo not worth it.

:comfort:

That's all right, old buddy old pal.

I agree with UT. Order of operation.

terms inside brackets
exponents and roots
multiplication and division
addition and subtraction

so 48÷2(9+3) = ?should be written as

48/2(12) = (12x48)/2 = 576/2 = 288 (my keyboard doesn't seem to have a division sign)

It certainly awoke the Cellar brain trust. *snort*

For a minute there I was afraid we might implode!

Its fun watching someone turn into defensive bitch mode when they're proven wrong lol. Keep it up monster, this thread is going places.

Oh looky, a new one!

You guys keep going you'll have quite a little pussy, I mean posse. :lol:

You got a horse in this race, bullitt? Do you have an answer to either the math question or the semantics argument? 'Cause, I haven't seen ANYONE proven right or wrong. Just a bunch of wind a'blowin' if you ask me.

I'll ask you all again: NO MATTER WHAT YOU CALL THEM DOES IT MAKE A DIFFERENCE IN A MATHEMATICAL EQUATION IF (THOSE THINGS] ARE CURVY OR SQUARED?

Other than an answer for that, just try to look bright and say 2 or 288.

kthx

Precisely! It's the mathematical equivalent of "eats, shoots and leaves."

Please to explain to me how it makes the equation different.

kthx

I think you're all full of hot air and farts. :lol2:

Jebus Aitch!

To be more precise, and to appease the dullards in the audience, how is this

48÷2(9+3) =

different mathematically than this

48÷2[9+3] =

Even better, how does WHAT YOU CALL THEM change the mathematical equation?

This same type of discussion is happening all over the net.

My initial response was 2, and still is. I just need to solve 2(9+3) first. But I am more a right-brainer type gal, so there.

Fixed.

tl;dr
288

In an arithmetic context, () and [] are usually equivalent. Having different ones is handy if you have more than one set nested, to clarify which matches which. I believe it's fair to say that {} are many times equivalent and just serve as a third "layer" of grouping when needed.

However, there are many contexts in math when there's a difference, or at least a specific role. For example, ranges of numbers: [0,6] indicates a range including the endpoints, 0 and 6, while (0,6) indicates that the endpoints are not actually part of the range. When you get into matrices and other crap like that, there are definitely ways to change the meaning by changing the typography. Context and definition of terms are critical.

oh no

standing-O for Undertoad!

brilliant!

no i just find em, it turns out this is a rapidly developing meme.

See?

Math=Angry

Literature=HappyGoLucky!

Holy fuck, you mean Flint didn't make this up? I figured it was up there with the card shuffling and the don't-use-zero.

That may have been true 40+ years ago (MAYBE), but not now. Don't get me started on fucking "theory."

What? I love zero. My 4yo knows to start counting arrays at zero.

orly?

What is your 4yo's answer to the thread title?

My apologies. For some reason I was thinking you were the proponent of the Get Rid of Zero thread.

you may be thinking of HLJ

So, how 'bout them Red Sox?

Well I don't believe that I'm wrong, so that can't be me that you're talking about, but since I have no more proof/evidence that I'm right I have nothing more to say about that. I did however have something to say about learned helplessness. Not my fault some are to dumb to get it without it being spelled out and turning into a bitchfest.

Sky, dear, I would contest that trolling is nurture rather than nature. And also since you are the one whaling into an argument in which you are not directly involved and you are the one calling names, that would rather put you under the bridge rather than me, no? I know how desperately you want to play Rhet in this scenario -and I see Bullitt is vying for the part too, but we already have a call out to someone's agent and are expecting them to turn up any minute.

:)

PEMDAS

Of course, on page 2 of that article, it says the jury is still out on whether the shorthand of skipping a multiplication symbol changes its place in the order of operations.

(clears throat)

Everyone:


Shut Your Gob
and
Do Shut UP.

Thank Q.

PS

This is pretty much all Flint's fault.

He's crazy.

I don't see what the big deal is. Just do it the regular way.

you mean, like, in the butt?

I would say 288 myself, but in all honesty, I don't give a shit what the answer is.

Why not just write it as (48/2)(9+3) in the first place?

Because then we wouldn't have to get into a fucking argument about the conventions of mathematical notation.

lol Is that the reason? hehe

42

Why? Its the answer to life the universe and everything.


Thread won.

Totally.

http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/48293

Now, see, I would hold that Mathematics can't allow for anything "implied". It's either multiplication, or it isn't.

Thats a great response Ibram! I feel vindicated...thank you,:p:

I agree with this, and also think the answer is 288. But there's at least some debate even among mathematicians about the legitimacy of implied multiplication.