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monster 03-31-2011 09:36 AM

And boom.

Trilby 03-31-2011 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by monster (Post 719981)
And boom.

Don't worry about it, monster.

If anyone says anything negative about merc his bulldogs will go after them. All he has to do is let them off the chain and it's GRRRRRRRRRRRRR time!

BrianR 03-31-2011 10:45 AM

Let's see. I've been here so long, it's hard to thin of any secrets not already known, but I'll try.

I am certified for both sky and SCUBA diving.

I once won the AAUW creative writing award for a poem that I plagarized directly from The Lord of the Rings. I've felt guilty ever since.

I was interviewed on Philly After Midnight, an episode watched by at least five people.

As of today, I am an officially transitioning transsexual. I answer to Pamela.

I would write more but I am going to allow everyone to recover their composure first. :)

monster 03-31-2011 10:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BrianR (Post 720007)
As of today, I am an officially transitioning transsexual. I answer to Pamela.

yes, but what's your new name?

Beest 03-31-2011 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by TheMercenary (Post 719976)
I just don't know if I should. I suspect it would just be used against me when I disagree with someone over something stupid like politics or current events or whatever.

'If I told you, I'd have to kill you' would work too, :yeldead:
It's the Hellko Kitty boxers isn't it. ;)


I grew my beard in my first year of college, 8 months before I met Monster, and have never ever been clean shaven since.

I used to SCUBA when I was at school, but never kept it up on going to college, I have still have all my gear in the basement :rolleyes:

Clodfobble 03-31-2011 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by BrianR
As of today, I am an officially transitioning transsexual. I answer to Pamela.

Congratulations on your decision. May I ask, what led to the choice of the name Pamela? I've only ever known two transsexuals, and one of them called herself Pamela. I'm just wondering if there's some in-culture reference I'm missing.

glatt 03-31-2011 01:22 PM

A fair number of SCUBA divers here.

I did my open water dive in Long Island Sound to get SCUBA certified after taking a course in college. Only marine life I saw was a flounder. Lots of bottles and a couple tires too.

Then I did a dive in St. Thomas with my dad. It was fun, but overall, I prefer snorkeling. Less to think and worry about. And the dry tank air gave me nose bleeds both times I dove.

BrianR 03-31-2011 01:57 PM

Thank you. I chose the name because I liked it and it was not a feminization of my birth name. I was torn between Pam and Tia and chose Pam because it was less exotic and I liked it better.

Now, you know THREE transsexuals!

There is no in-culture reference.

:)


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Originally Posted by Clodfobble (Post 720036)
Congratulations on your decision. May I ask, what led to the choice of the name Pamela? I've only ever known two transsexuals, and one of them called herself Pamela. I'm just wondering if there's some in-culture reference I'm missing.


glatt 03-31-2011 02:18 PM

BrianR/Pamela, you win the thread!

infinite monkey 03-31-2011 02:24 PM

Pardon my ignorance, but didn't you just get married a couple years ago?

Sundae 03-31-2011 03:35 PM

Hey, congrats Pamela.
I talk to a transitioning transexual in my supermarket.
I think she thought I was trustworthy because I had pink hair :)

She changed her uniform from trousers to skirts just last year, and is far happier to have it out in the open. Not meant in a rude way! She really makes an effort with her image - for a supermarket employee she's quite glamourous. I feel quite shabby next to her. Then again, I am! I usually shop without makeup and in my ubiquitous jogging bottoms.

monster 03-31-2011 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Beest (Post 720035)
I have still have all my gear in the basement :rolleyes:

that's what you think....

Nirvana 03-31-2011 05:58 PM

I have pics somewhere and trophies too. I was also Miss Nude Illinois.

Great April Fool's BrianR

will be very embarrassed if its not a joke

lookout123 03-31-2011 06:16 PM

I recently found out a woman I dated a few years back (when split from Mrs L) is now an escort and porn chick (not really a star).

monster 03-31-2011 06:43 PM

But it's not April 1st in America yet. Or is that another "holiday" you guys stretch for a week?

Nirvana 03-31-2011 06:58 PM

Maybe Brian R posted in the DNSFW thread. Then I stand corrected and I have to say way to go Pamela! :)

Clodfobble 03-31-2011 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by monster
But it's not April 1st in America yet. Or is that another "holiday" you guys stretch for a week?

I've noticed a trend in the last few years of starting the rumor/joke in the several days leading up to April 1st, and revealing that it was a hoax on the day itself. This seems to be necessary to actually catch anyone off guard, because everyone's too alert for pranks on the holiday itself.

I have to say, Nirvana's post did make me slap my forehead. It's hard to say though--Brian's been a transgender advocate in the past. I'm torn. No offense either way, Brian. :)

Nirvana 03-31-2011 07:23 PM

I do wonder why we hate to be fooled? If it is in a harmless way maybe we should relax enjoy a giggle? It's such a knee jerk reaction to put up one's guard.

monster 03-31-2011 07:29 PM

knee jerk reactions save lives.

DanaC 03-31-2011 07:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nirvana (Post 720134)
I do wonder why we hate to be fooled? If it is in a harmless way maybe we should relax enjoy a giggle? It's such a knee jerk reaction to put up one's guard.

Strange isn't it? Maybe it's something we learn as kids? Not wanting to be the butt of the playground joke.

monster 03-31-2011 07:42 PM

Bramela, May I ask Questions? Good.

Where does your wife fit in to this?
Are you still driving trucks?
Are you planning surgery or just wishing to live as a woman?
What was your role in the pron movies you made, or did I remember that incorrectly?
You have beautiful long hair, do you feel the decision to have long hair was a precursor to this or unrelated?
Why today? Officialy?
What color eyeshadow do you prefer, or do you not wear make-up?

TheMercenary 03-31-2011 09:46 PM

BrianR. What are your parents thoughts on your transgenderedness? How did it effect them or do you care?

BrianR 04-01-2011 12:03 AM

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Originally Posted by monster (Post 720142)
Bramela, May I ask Questions? Good.

Where does your wife fit in to this?

She fits in right next to me.

Are you still driving trucks?

No, not as of the end of January.


Are you planning surgery or just wishing to live as a woman?

One step at a time.

What was your role in the pron movies you made, or did I remember that incorrectly?

Mostly an extra. Never the "star/starlet"

You have beautiful long hair, do you feel the decision to have long hair was a precursor to this or unrelated?

It is definitely a precursor.

Why today? Officialy?

It's been a long time coming. This is one of the last places on the list. Somehow, I never found the right way to say it. Also, I've lost several long time friends by telling them. I never know how people are going to take it and I didn't want to create a huge stir in this, my favorite of all online places.

What color eyeshadow do you prefer, or do you not wear make-up?

I tend to go with purples/pinks depending on the look I want and the occasion/outfit.

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Originally Posted by TheMercenary (Post 720168)
BrianR. What are your parents thoughts on your transgenderedness? How did it effect them or do you care?

I dunno, get out the Ouiji board and ask them. They died in 1995/96.

Also, this is not some hoax that I will unmask tomorrow. This is for real. Some of us already knew but said nothing as per my wishes. Thank you, all three of you!

http://www.flickr.com/photos/28768222@N04/4157735229/http://www.flickr.com/photos/28768222@N04/4157735229/

monster 04-01-2011 12:11 AM

Thanks, and best wishes to you. I applaud the purple! :)

BrianR 04-01-2011 12:14 AM

You really like it?

monster 04-01-2011 12:18 AM

I love purple. I hate pink. But the few m>f transexuals I know have blue/green eyeshadow fixations and it's truly not a good color to be applied so lavishly. Their tastes match the twenty-nothing college sluts half their age. They all make anime look human, but it's an especially poor look on an older face.

monster 04-01-2011 12:20 AM

oh and re the pic, I'd like to see a little more dark liner on the lower lids. The bangs are fabulous, totally make the look work.

BrianR 04-01-2011 12:24 AM

I think those colors only work on a naturally blonde person. The blues bring out the blues in their eyes but as my eyes are hazel, that doesn't work. Yes, I tried it and didn't like it.

I must admit, that picture had some help. I was taking lessons from a professional makeup consultant since my own efforts only produced the bastard offspring of Ronald McDonald and Bozo the Clown. Now I know that it is possible to look quite good with the right makeup and the right technique. And a set of $100 brushes. :)

BrianR 04-01-2011 12:28 AM

Re: the pic... I try for the minimalist look. You know, less is more?

I am always open to suggestions but other than in person, I find that the internet is not a good teacher to me. I've seen every makeup tutorial on YouTube and none have helped. But a professional in person? Fab! I have never had a female friend sit down and help me however. That might be fun!
Clodfobble? I know you're listening. ;)

Now I need to go make friends with the MAC consultant over at the mall.

monster 04-01-2011 12:34 AM

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Originally Posted by BrianR (Post 720231)
I think those colors only work on a naturally blonde person.

I think they look worst on blondes. Browns and purples work well with hazel eyes imo. But good blending is really the key to good make-up. And time. That's why I rarely bother :lol:

one does need make-up lessons. Girls get them from moms and friends -where is a boy to turn? Beest and I both wore blankets of make-up in college, but one of the first things I did when we met was show him how to apply it properly.

monster 04-01-2011 12:39 AM

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Originally Posted by BrianR (Post 720233)
Re: the pic... I try for the minimalist look. You know, less is more?

I am always open to suggestions but other than in person, I find that the internet is not a good teacher to me. I've seen every makeup tutorial on YouTube and none have helped. But a professional in person? Fab! I have never had a female friend sit down and help me however. That might be fun!
Clodfobble? I know you're listening. ;)

Now I need to go make friends with the MAC consultant over at the mall.

rather you than me! :lol: Re less is more, I'd tone down the lip gloss. -the color is great but the shine is too much. but that's just my personal pref. And I'd still like a little more liner on the lower lids ;)

But hell, I hate to put the stuff on, it's war paint to me. i'd like to, but I just don't have the time or patience. i only bother when i'm going out in public and feel the need to make an impression/intimidate.

plthijinx 04-01-2011 12:41 AM

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Originally Posted by BrianR (Post 720048)
Thank you. I chose the name because I liked it and it was not a feminization of my birth name. I was torn between Pam and Tia and chose Pam because it was less exotic and I liked it better.

Now, you know THREE transsexuals!

There is no in-culture reference.

:)

steeeeeeeeep awaaaaaay from the truck man! transWHAT? saltgrass? remember that?

BrianR 04-01-2011 12:54 AM

methinks I could knock Fred over with one of those feathers! LOL

Someone get that man a strong drink! STAT!

BrianR 04-01-2011 12:57 AM

Oh, and for the record, I wasn't wearing lip gloss. That is a combination of the lighting, the camera flash and no editing. The photographer is a makeup artist, not a professional photographer!

Also I was wearing the wrong foundation shade that time. He was out of the one I need and this was closest in tone. I know it looks a bit off, compared to the rest of me but it was the best we could do.

That pic is circa 2005.

monster 04-01-2011 01:11 AM

I hate foundation. 2005? You still look young for your age in that shot. It must agree with you

plthijinx 04-01-2011 01:33 AM

2005? just before salt grass then. that was what? 2006?

Aliantha 04-01-2011 02:34 AM

Brian, I don't know if this is PC or not. I'll be buggered if I can figure it out, but I just wanted to say that you make a pretty attractive woman. I've never seen you as a man, so I can't comment on that.

ZenGum 04-01-2011 03:24 AM

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Originally Posted by BrianR (Post 720007)
Let's see. I've been here so long, it's hard to thin of any secrets not already known, but I'll try.

I am certified for both sky and SCUBA diving.

I once won the AAUW creative writing award for a poem that I plagarized directly from The Lord of the Rings. I've felt guilty ever since.

I was interviewed on Philly After Midnight, an episode watched by at least five people.

As of today, I am an officially transitioning transsexual. I answer to Pamela.

I would write more but I am going to allow everyone to recover their composure first. :)

If you thought announcing your new identity was going to distract me from the fact that you're a plagiarist, you've got another think coming!

:rant:

Actually I'm more amused that nobody noticed you plagiarised LotR. Which poem was it?

Oh yeah and congratulations on the Pamela stuff.

DanaC 04-01-2011 04:07 AM

Wow. Awesome pic. You look so striking. Beautiful. And congrats on such a major decision.

casimendocina 04-01-2011 04:31 AM

That's a great dress or is it a feather boa?

Valennia 04-01-2011 06:55 AM

I'm fluent in Turkish. Oh yeah, and I'm also new to this forum. :)

Trilby 04-01-2011 07:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by monster (Post 720230)
I'd like to see a little more dark liner on the lower lids.

After a "certain age" dark liner on the lower lids makes the face/eyes look older - it draws down - upper lid liner draws UP.

:D

monster 04-01-2011 08:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brianna (Post 720267)
After a "certain age" dark liner on the lower lids makes the face/eyes look older - it draws down - upper lid liner draws UP.

:D

y'see, I know that's the school of thought, but I still like to see some. Just more on the upper.

wolf 04-01-2011 10:27 AM

Brian, Thanks for trusting everyone here.

As always, I am curious about several things ...

- why on earth would you CHOOSE to wear pantyhose and high heels (yes, I know that flats are more likely for you, but that spoils my question)?

- will you lose the ability to parallel park and repair automobiles?

- nice glamor shot.

Nirvana 04-01-2011 10:35 AM

I am jealous Brian. Since you are in the middle of the transformation you can still use both sexes to your advantage depending on the situation.
Ah the years I spent helping girls and guys look glamorous. :)
[I ran an entertainment service, striptease] I don't miss my 7 inch high heels ;)

Sundae 04-01-2011 10:35 AM

Pamela, you have the most gorgeous hair.

glatt 04-01-2011 10:38 AM

BrianR is your user title. Do you want us to call you Brian, BrianR, or Pamela? Or Pam?

Are you going to change your profile picture and ask for a changed user name?

Each day, do you dress as a woman? Have you thrown away your men's clothes? I'm curious how it works, this transition. Is it gradual, where you go back and forth between identities as the mood strikes you, or have you said goodbye to Brian and you're now Pam?

Spexxvet 04-01-2011 11:54 AM

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Are you still driving trucks?
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No, not as of the end of January.
Does it have anything to do with this decision?

BrianR 04-01-2011 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by monster (Post 720240)
I hate foundation. 2005? You still look young for your age in that shot. It must agree with you

I hate foundation too. Unfortunately, I need it to cover the beard shadow.

Quote:

Originally Posted by plthijinx (Post 720241)
2005? just before salt grass then. that was what? 2006?

Salt grass? The restaurant chain or Distichlis spicata?

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Originally Posted by Aliantha (Post 720246)
Brian, I don't know if this is PC or not. I'll be buggered if I can figure it out, but I just wanted to say that you make a pretty attractive woman. I've never seen you as a man, so I can't comment on that.

I'm definitely not a PC-person so go ahead. Thank you very much. For a man pic, try my profile. Just click on my name.

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Originally Posted by ZenGum (Post 720248)
If you thought announcing your new identity was going to distract me from the fact that you're a plagiarist, you've got another think coming!

:rant:

Actually I'm more amused that nobody noticed you plagiarised LotR. Which poem was it?

I forget now. It was one of the very short ones taken from just after Gandalf fell in the Mines of Moria. I'd have to get the books out to see the exact one. It all goes to show that no one really read those poems or "songs" except us LotR geeks.


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Originally Posted by casimendocina (Post 720257)
That's a great dress or is it a feather boa?

It is only a boa.

Quote:

Originally Posted by wolf (Post 720301)
Brian, Thanks for trusting everyone here.

As always, I am curious about several things ...

- why on earth would you CHOOSE to wear pantyhose and high heels (yes, I know that flats are more likely for you, but that spoils my question)?

I choose NOT to wear those! I prefer stockings and garters for the sexy feelings on the unusual occasions that I wear them at all. I'm a leggings or skirt kind of gurl.

(I do have a pair of F*** me heels tho ;) )

- will you lose the ability to parallel park and repair automobiles?

no, but I will gain the ability to get someone else to do it for me!
I'm practicing my "helpless female" image for flat tires! :lol:

- nice glamor shot.

Thank you.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sundae Girl (Post 720307)
Pamela, you have the most gorgeous hair.

Thanks, but that's a wig, not my real hair. My real hair is much thinner and finer. I hail from Scotland mind. :)

Quote:

Originally Posted by glatt (Post 720308)
BrianR is your user title. Do you want us to call you Brian, BrianR, or Pamela? Or Pam?

Are you going to change your profile picture and ask for a changed user name?

Well, you can call me Ray, or you can call me Jay.... as long as you don't call me late for supper! :D [/obscure joke] Seriously, I will answer to both until I get my official name change sometime next year. Until then, whatever makes you comfortable. I prefer Pamela (or just Pam to my friends) but no pressure. And I wouldn't be even a little upset if UT were to change my user name to Pamela.

Each day, do you dress as a woman? Have you thrown away your men's clothes? I'm curious how it works, this transition. Is it gradual, where you go back and forth between identities as the mood strikes you, or have you said goodbye to Brian and you're now Pam?

I tend to dress male still, partly because clothes cost more for women, it's tougher to find things that fit me (either too tight/small or too large and FORGET shoes!). Also, remember that I live in Redneck, Texas. The land of pick em up trucks, guns and beer. Some people know about me and most have been accepting (surprisingly). Of course, that acceptance only goes so far.

The changes are gradual, I won't sprout boobage overnight (darn!) nor will I suddenly dress in full drag queen mode (ever!) And no, my sexual preference won't change!

The transition is different for each of us. Some just change overnight and others barely change at all. It's mostly a comfort thing. I know of gurls who planned their coming out as if it were a debutante ball, complete with guests, a gown and a buffet, strolled in, made the announcement that they will henceforth be known as XXXXX etc etc. And never look back. Others stay in stealth mode, perhaps in fear for their lives (murder happens) or jobs (it's legal to fire us in 38 states) or other reasons.

I am playing this by ear, adding clothes to my wardrobe as I find them (and like them). There will be many ups and downs on this roller coaster ride and this is only the beginning. Please bear with me.

I welcome any and all respectful questions. One may wish to look up Calpernia Addam's YouTube video "Bad questions to ask a Transsexual" (Director's Cut is the better of them). So far, no one has insulted or offended me and I don't expect anyone to do so. I know you all pretty well and I understand that your questions are posited in the desire to understand, not to offend.

Thank you all for your patience!

Pam

BrianR 04-01-2011 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Spexxvet (Post 720327)
Does it have anything to do with this decision?

No. It has to do with a major accident in January which totalled the truck. My company blackballed me for that. I am basically finished driving trucks for a living unless I buy my own and hustle my own loads.

In this biz, the deck is stacked against the drivers. If you have an accident, it goes on a big database which is accessed by all potential employers. If they don't like what they see, you don't get hired.

Accidents are reportable for three years on an application. After that, you don't have to list them. So it follows that I just stay clean for three years and my slate is wiped clean, right? Nope! The database keeps records for TEN years. And if you wait more than a year or so to work, you have another whammy to contend with. In order to get hired, you must have RECENT over the road tractor trailer experience. If I took a job hauling hay from fields to market locally or driving an oil tanker for Halliburton every day, that would NOT COUNT as it is not over the road driving and I still wouldn't get hired.

I'm going to find a better field to get into. Possibly go to college first and get a degree in something interesting to me.

BrianR 04-01-2011 12:20 PM

Y'know what I find most interesting?

That no one has pointed out the delicious irony in my .sig yet!

DanaC 04-01-2011 12:22 PM

Legal to fire? Damn, that's awful.

A good friend of mine is currently trying to get a place as a PhD student and having problems. Mainly because she did her degree and Masters before she transitioned. She doesn't want her old Uni to know about the change, because she was a military historian and suspects her former tutors and colleagues would be less than understanding. But her PhD proposal sounds really interesting. She is looking at the history of transgender 'treatment' in the UK.

We are somewhat behind much of the civilised world in this country in how we define transgender. It is still defined as a psychiatric condition here and in order to access the necessary counselling, treatment and operations 'patients' have to go through the pychiatric system. She's campaigning to try and get that changed, and our council scrutiny panel are supporting her campaign. We are still working from definitions that were set down decades ago. Other countries have updated their definitions several times since the last time we looked at it in any depth over here.

Unfortunately, there's a whole school of psychiatry devoted to this 'psychiatric condition' so theres rather a lot of vested interest in it remaining this way.

Spexxvet 04-01-2011 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by BrianR (Post 720336)
No. It has to do with a major accident in January which totalled the truck. My company blackballed me for that. I am basically finished driving trucks for a living unless I buy my own and hustle my own loads.

In this biz, the deck is stacked against the drivers. If you have an accident, it goes on a big database which is accessed by all potential employers. If they don't like what they see, you don't get hired.

That sucks. Fuck The Man!

BigV 04-01-2011 01:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aliantha (Post 720246)
Brian, I don't know if this is PC or not. I'll be buggered if I can figure it out, but I just wanted to say that you make a pretty attractive woman. I've never seen you as a man, so I can't comment on that.

Hey Ali--

Like you, I don't know if this is PC or not, but I'll preface it by saying any offense is born of my ignorance, not my malice. I have plenty of the former, and none of the latter.

Pamela, ... wow. You're beautiful.

Aaaaand, I have met BrianR in person. I went back and reviewed the pictures of our meeting and while there is a unmistakable resemblance, this is an entirely new look. By the way, my previous offer still stands. If you're ever back in the neighborhood, please contact me (email is best these days) and we'll have dinner or something. I'd be happy to have you as my guest.

plthijinx 04-01-2011 01:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BrianR (Post 720333)
Salt grass? The restaurant chain or Distichlis spicata?

the restaurant you me and crazy bitch went to on I-10.

and by the way, to quote spock:

i have been and always shall be your friend. [/spock]

Sundae 04-01-2011 02:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BrianR (Post 720333)
Thanks, but that's a wig, not my real hair. My real hair is much thinner and finer. I hail from Scotland mind. :)

Is it right to glory in the fact that someone else does not have shampoo-commercial-level hair?
You know what, fuck gender, I'm really evilly glad that was a wig.
Now I just need to get Jinx to admit she has very expensive hair extensions and my nasty side will be satisfied.

BrianR 04-01-2011 02:33 PM

I have had those, too. I wish I had the money to put them back in and maintain them. I loved them!

Even if I did have to make a few adjustments here and there to accomodate them.

BrianR 04-01-2011 02:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by plthijinx (Post 720361)
the restaurant you me and crazy bitch went to on I-10.

and by the way, to quote spock:

i have been and always shall be your friend. [/spock]

Oh yes. I remember now. And I never doubted your friendship.

Sundae 04-01-2011 02:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BrianR (Post 720333)
Even if I did have to make a few adjustments here and there to accomodate them.

Serves you right for having them put below the knicker line.

Brian/ Pamela - are you okay with all the questions?
I only know you online, but you seem pretty robust.

It's just Ibram's recent posts have made me question my usual reactions...

I'm not old-school Dwellar. So I really hope I'm not being intrusive.
I really respect your admission of transition, and your willingness to engage with those of us with limited experience of your situation.

More recent pics would be lovely.

BrianR 04-01-2011 04:22 PM

I do not mind the questions in the least. If anyone gets rude or offensive or too personal, I will let them know. You in particular are not offending me at all.

I know that a lot of people know little or nothing about transsexuals. I know that you have lots of questions. I don't mind answering them, if only to bring a little more enlightenment into the world.

Feel free to ask away!

Oh, and more recent pictures will have to wait. So far, I have only approved my glam shots from yesteryear for public display. Rest assured, I am taking pictures weekly to document my transition. Someday, I will post them all in order so that friends can see the changes better.


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