Humorous is subjective, that's the rub.

He has a segment called "How will the Dems F* it up this time"!

I understand what you mean. Then again, I'm iberal.:p:

You're iberian? ;)

I'd agree on all counts, but also say that Dennis Miller plays an arrogant character like Colbert.

If Limbaugh's arrogance is still just an act at this point (I agree it was in the beginning), I wonder what he thinks when any Republican politician who crosses him is forced to apologize. It must be surreal.

They made a union rep try to crawl out of his skin last night. The union had hired non-union temp workers at minimum wage with no benefits and low hours to picket Wal-Mart's lack of unions and benefits, and their hour cutbacks.

iberal. It's being Liberal without the
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I didn't intend to imply objectively humorous; just intent to be humorous. I haven't found much of Dennis Miller's recent comedy particularly humorous, but I would consider his act to be "humorous political commentary".

Awwww, I love Sheldon!

I'm iberal oo, exxvett!

I figured it was the elitist liberal business. I cant deny your point, there. I guess then, most of the moderates and independents who like watching the show are really closet liberals.

Fixed that for ya, and I agree.

I'm still pondering on how watching a dog play in the snow is political and comparable to this at all. My conclusion thus far is FAIL.

Smart people are more likely to be Liberals than conservatives.

Here's another study

Who said it was? Jinx originally said Stewart's arrogance was displayed by making fun of people doing stupid things, which is the premise of AFV. It only came later that the arrogance is actually in liberal people making fun of conservatives doing stupid things, which added politics rather than just style into the equation, and explains why Limbaugh doesn't get saddled with arrogance as well as outrage.

Nice wrap up there, HM. :thumbsup:

Yeah, he's a regular Clodfobble.

Good read, but a very contradictory article.

lol

You entered it into the discussion.
That show has NOTHING to do with politics nor those that were being discussed (Stewart & Limbaugh)
Enjoy your game of semantics.

Sorry - Jinx already answered you.

I never said it was political. I said that it was comparable, in the context that Jinx had set up as her objection to Stewart. Which is why the "who said it was?" was addressed explicitly to the "political", and I addressed the "comparable" separately.

And then you deleted that explanation as irrelevant, repeated the false implication that I had said AFV was political, and complained about semantics.

I understand your logic. It doesn't matter.
We just disagree and thats ok.

Uh huh, and again, what SIDE am I on if I say I don't like the stupid video show?

How did I miss that?

I'm guessing "the other side"

Huh? I asked whether you thought its premise was arrogant, not whether you liked it. I was curious what exactly Stewart was doing that placed his arrogance as equal to Limbaugh's outrageousness, but didn't place Limbaugh's arrogance at the same level.

SIDEs were more along Pico's thread than mine, and in that thread you clarified that it was Stewart as a liberal making fun of conservatives doing stupid things that you thought was arrogant. It seems to me that in your effort not to take a SIDE, you may have allowed your definition of arrogance to do so.

I'm sorry I got you all going on this track. Heinline said all humor is based on making fun of someone. I have no problem with that. If, however, you invite someone on your show, and then ambush them, and then show your smarmy arrogance by saying they're morally wrong, That sucks. I've seen it done lots of times, and it shows just elitist arrogance. By the way, when the people in those studies who become liberals in their young life finally grow up, the tables turn the other way. No offence to my liberal bretheren.

You didn't watch the whole interview. You can't get any real idea of how a 20minute interview was conducted in a few second clips from youtube.
There was no "ambushing" and the clips of Jim Cramer that Jon played, he gave Jim ample time/ability to respond.

But the crappy video he posted SAID that's what happened, so that's what happened.

I've seen it happen on the conservative shows, too.

Do you have any evidence to support that assertion?

Just 64 years of watching people in public and private life. And of course, this...
Analyses of large representative samples, from both the United States and the United Kingdom, confirm this prediction. In both countries, more intelligent children are more likely to grow up to be liberals than less intelligent children. For example, among the American sample, those who identify themselves as “very liberal” in early adulthood have a mean childhood IQ of 106.4, whereas those same numbers turn conservative later in life.:rolleyes:

Oh yeah? Well analyses of large representative samples, from both the United States and the United Kingdom, confirm this prediction. In both countries, more intelligent children are more likely to grow up to be liberals than less intelligent children. For example, among the American sample, those who identify themselves as “very liberal” in early adulthood have a mean childhood IQ of 106.4, whereas those same numbers become even more Liberal later in life, were happier, better looking, were elected prom king and queen every year, and lived happily ever after.:rolleyes:

This is the only "study" I could find to answer that.
Take a look at the study and draw your own conclusions.

Yes, that does sound a lot like me, only my IQ was meaner. ;)

bumpity boo ...
Seems like the buzz has died out. Whats the latest?

I won't be going after all. We have 7 different things scheduled for that day. WTF! This and one other event are not making it onto the schedule. Still going to be a busy day for me.

Comedy Central will simulcast it all.

lol - I wonder if Fox is gonna cover it. It seems as though every "political news outlet" is covering this non-political event.:eyebrow:

Maybe John Stewart finally told everyone that this was just a joke.

Nah, there's still a little buzz about it. The latest is port-a-potty gate.

The Marine Corp Marathon is right after the rally, and the Marines were going to be installing all these port-a-potties with padlocks on them and they wouldn't take the padlocks off until after the rally was over so no John Stewart folks would poop in the Marines' potties. Now they aren't even going to set the potties up until after the rally is over.

John Stewart is getting his own potties. Larry King gave him a brand new potty on his show recently, and John said he would rope it off for Larry's personal use if Larry would come to the rally.

That's pretty funny. It will also be funny to see if they Stewart guys try to count the 10,000+ people who show up for the marathon as part of the people who showed up to their event.

My personal guess is they won't even try to count people at the event, because that kind of sound-bite one-upmanship is exactly the political mentality he is opposed to. It's about being moderate, not being on the side that's better than the other side.

Colbert will estimate attendance at 3 million.

I'm still excited its happening, just bummed I can't go. I am glad they are gonna show it online, I just don't know if it will only be available to watch during the event or also after. Anyone know?

The two events are now officially one, Rally to Restore Sanity and/or Fear. Oprah gave Stewart's audience bus tickets or something, and Colbert said "F* Oprah!" and gave his audience tickets too.
The Rally to Restore Sanity facebook page has over 200,000 people committed to going and the March has about 90,000.
Huffington Post founder said they will take as many buses as there are people to fill them, they just have to get to the meet spot in SoHo.

If you are going, you are encouraged by Colbert to wear your scariest costume (like a gay mexican bear) and you can upload the costume here:
http://www.spookyordooky.com/
to be compared to others.

For Sanity you can create a sign and upload:
http://www.saneornot.com/

Oh, and Obama will be on the The Daily Show Oct 27! It will be interesting to see how well he can answer some of Jon's questions...Jon has been pretty critical as of late.

:lol2: And that will be a big joke as well. Colbert is a GD fool and should be charged for the waste of time he used in front of the Congressional committee.

Bullshite. Colbert doesn't have a moderate frigging bone in his body.

What's fun about Colbert is...
half the liberals believe he is a Conservative, and
half the conservatives believe he is a Liberal.

The other two halves agree with everything he says. ;)

I think he is a Goddammed fool. I have more respect for John Stewart.

I like them both.

Jon Stewart, no "h".

Colbert's personality is complete satire. He's a genius. His whole show/personality is about bringing to light the hypocrisy, inconstancy, and utter ridiculousness of much of our news and politicians. I'm surprised you don't agree with a lot of his points merc.

He was ASKED to testify, and so he did. He paid for all of his travel and stay. Cannot be any worse than having Elmo testifying. A lot of "experts" that testify at these proceedings are just as ridiculous and unqualified as Colbert. I think he did make a good point about us needing more work visas, and that if we improve the quality of working conditions for the lowliest, then the improvements would basically trickle up.

The really important thing: his testimony brought the whole proceeding to an audience that would usually ignore such things. My generation has a bad tendency to be uninvolved and apathetic, I think its great that there are people like Colbert and Stewart that make these issues accessible to us. We're not dumb and we don't just take them at their word. We research independently also, but these guys give us a jumping off point we might otherwise miss. I know that since I began watching their shows, I've become much more interested about current events, but I don't agree with either of them completely. I do a lot of my own research, but I'm more likely to after getting interested in a tidbit they had on the show.

mtp, I think you are the exception, not the rule. I applaud you for your interest in the politics that are going to effect you and your children, if you ever have any. But that is not the norm for your generation. I have three children, 2 in their 20's and one near so. Few if any of them or their friends are politically aware. I can't blame the youngest 2, they are college kids and consumed with their intensive studies, the oldest is quite liberal, and I support her, but she is the exception.

Again, I applaud you for taking the time to research and formulate your own opinions as well as to stay involved in current events.

Did you know he teaches Sunday School? The real guy, not the character. He's far more conservative in real life than Jon Stewart, and has admitted that actually, sometimes he agrees with large parts of his satirical rants.

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The above quote illustrate that merc has absolutely NO sense of humor.

Nor is he aware of who Colbert really is.

Merc, your experience really is not so extraordinary, if either of us may be taken as examples. If you grew as I did, politics just wasn't all that interesting in your twenties, save only if something political directly affected you in your job -- military, and the like. Even then, it was something remote, no?

Only a very small fraction of the college-aged are into politics. Like Karl Rove, who was one of these, they grow up into campaign managers and staffers. Or they go to law school with intent to become pols. Perhaps a few aspire even to be solons.

In the late thirties, this begins to shift. Politics gets interesting to the fortysomethings; it's often as not a game for the old men. The young have other things on their minds.

That is why everything that comes out of his mouth should not be taken seriously and is considered nothing more than sitdown comedy.

I went. Wow. It was huge. I got fairly close, but not quite close enough to reliably hear. I've been to several events on the mall, and this was the biggest.

I got pics.

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But they all look like normal people, where are all the dirty pot smoking hippies? ;)

That's not quite the whole picture.

He makes fun of both sides with equal vigor when politicians do stupid shit, that's true. And he is very sharp in his critique of hypocrisy of any shade, from either side.

But when he satirizes politicians on matters of POLICY, he does it in two different ways. He rips on Republicans when they follow conservative ideology. He only rips on Democrats when they FAIL to follow liberal ideology.

I've watched hundreds of episodes of The Daily Show. I've never hear Stewart once rip on a Democrat for promoting a liberal policy. I've heard him rip on Republicans many times for promoting a conservative policy.

The subtly of that distinction is important.

I've never doubted he favors a liberal agenda. I doubt that anyone would mistake him for a conservative, or even a moderate leaning conservative, or conservative leaning moderate. But he could be a liberal leaning moderate, or a moderate leaning liberal.

Confused? That's because those labels don't tell you much. More often they are used to put someone in a pigeon hole, rather than discuss what their view is on any particular issue(s).

I think that's our biggest problem right now, stressing how we are different, ignoring what we have in common, which means no dialog.