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Beest 03-20-2013 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Lamplighter (Post 857623)
So which bulbs do you choose ?

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Here is a link to a comparison chart that may be useful...

Thers a lot of sticker shock on LED's, also that 50,000 hrs life they claim is to 50% brightness, that doesn't sound realistic to me, when I replace an incandescent or cfl , they are a bit brighter say 10% ? i don't think I'd be happy with a light at 50% of the new brightness, even 80% might be annoyling dim. That's going to change those efficiency numbers. I'm sure with slowly increasing volume they will get cheaper and beocme the norm, but I odn't buy they are the panacea they are proclaiming.

One of the problems woth CFL's and especially LED's is try to squeeze the new technology into the same applications, LED's are smaller are more directional, they work much better as small lights spread out over the whole ceiling, than trying to squeeze them into a bulb shape that shines all around and screws into a central mount.

Beest 03-20-2013 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Gravdigr (Post 854692)
Something else I won't be drinking again as long as I live:

Fat Tire Amber Ale

Beautiful labels & cartons, but :greenface.

Very popular round here, I had some and found it OK, kinda bland , but perfectly drinkable.

footfootfoot 03-20-2013 12:11 PM

Age and storage can make or break any beer.

glatt 03-20-2013 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Beest (Post 857629)
LED's are smaller are more directional, they work much better as small lights spread out over the whole ceiling, than trying to squeeze them into a bulb shape that shines all around and screws into a central mount.

This form factor is a step in the right direction. This would provide a ring of light hitting a segment of a lamp shade and a circle hitting the ceiling. Almost there, assuming they have the brightness and color down.

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Lamplighter 03-20-2013 01:45 PM

I wanted to install a "step light" to illuminate just the top step in a dark hallway.
Heat build-up with incandescent bulbs is a fire hazard issue,
and the motion detectors I've seen are not approved for CFL's.

I installed an interior step-light that uses a 4x4 array of LED's,
but it is way too bright... it lights up the entire hallway at night,
and the color is not to my liking.

So now I'm in the market for a colored filter to tone it down. :(
It might have been easier to just give everyone their own flashlight !

glatt 03-20-2013 02:15 PM

I have to admit, lamplighter, that I'm surprised you didn't go with a natural gas lamp.

footfootfoot 03-20-2013 02:17 PM

If you are DIYish you can get LEDs in just about any color temperature you want and solder them in place of the ones you don't want. You can replace them with dimmer LEDs too.

Lamplighter 03-20-2013 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by footfootfoot (Post 857654)
If you are DIYish you can get LEDs in just about any color temperature you want and solder them in place of the ones you don't want. You can replace them with dimmer LEDs too.

Good idea... I'll look into it.

xoxoxoBruce 03-20-2013 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by glatt (Post 857634)
This form factor is a step in the right direction. This would provide a ring of light hitting a segment of a lamp shade and a circle hitting the ceiling. Almost there, assuming they have the brightness and color down.

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Glatt, that's what my tail/brake lights look like. 92 LEDs, some pointing out the back but most out the side to the reflector. Very bright.

footfootfoot 03-21-2013 12:09 PM

Yeah, my BIL got some LED back up lights. They are blinding. Like super novas.

footfootfoot 03-21-2013 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Lamplighter (Post 857659)
Good idea... I'll look into it.

http://www.superbrightleds.com/cat/through-hole/

This is one pretty good place. I had saved a link to another place that had a bigger selection of component LEDs but I can't find it. Having a few thousand bookmarks sort of defeats the purpose...

xoxoxoBruce 03-21-2013 02:35 PM

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Should be able to find a right angle cord end and replace the cord with an LED, fairly easily. If it's completely molded, it's a little harder.

xoxoxoBruce 03-21-2013 09:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Lamplighter (Post 857623)
So which bulbs do you choose ?

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Here is a link to a comparison chart that may be useful...

The NY Times has an excellent roundup of LED bulbs now on the market. Price, where to buy, type of light, programable features, etc.

Pete Zicato 03-25-2013 11:53 AM

With Wonder bread gone, all sorts of wannabees have stepped up to the plate.

Recently we bought some Bimbo bread at Sams. (Yes, this is really a thing) Don't bother. It's dense and dry. Not what I want for a Wonder substitute.

infinite monkey 03-25-2013 11:59 AM

I miss Butternut Bread.

Makes the best toast. I used to do a commercial to myself or anyone who was around when I made toast out of Butternut.

(big smile, holding buttered toast with a bite out of it) Butternut! It's the best bread you can toast! (take another bite and give a thumbs up.)

I do a commercial for I Can't Believe It's Not Butter at the same time: Really, I just cannot BELIEVE this is not butter.

Pete Zicato 03-25-2013 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by infinite monkey (Post 858256)
I miss Butternut Bread.

Makes the best toast. I used to do a commercial to myself or anyone who was around when I made toast out of Butternut.

(big smile, holding buttered toast with a bite out of it) Butternut! It's the best bread you can toast! (take another bite and give a thumbs up.)

I do a commercial for I Can't Believe It's Not Butter at the same time: Really, I just cannot BELIEVE this is not butter.

MMS

Made me smile.

infinite monkey 03-25-2013 12:12 PM

Living with me is a laugh a minute, even if it's just me living with me. I continue to do commercials and generally carry on my variety show AT ALL TIMES. :lol:

Except when it's Drama Hour. ;)

Thanks Pete. :)

xoxoxoBruce 03-25-2013 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Pete Zicato (Post 858252)
With Wonder bread gone, all sorts of wannabees have stepped up to the plate.

Recently we bought some Bimbo bread at Sams. (Yes, this is really a thing) Don't bother. It's dense and dry. Not what I want for a Wonder substitute.

Bimbo is the biggest baker in the world, their US brands include;
» arnold
» ball park (buns)
» bimbo
» boboli
» brownberry
» EarthGrains
» Entenmann's
» francisco
» freihofer's
» marinela
» mrs baird's
» oroweat
» sara lee
» stroehmann
» thomas'
and more

Pete Zicato 03-25-2013 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce (Post 858265)
Bimbo is the biggest baker in the world

Hmm. You'd think they'd be better at it, then.

footfootfoot 03-25-2013 04:00 PM

They're the InBev of the bread world.

xoxoxoBruce 03-25-2013 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Pete Zicato (Post 858273)
Hmm. You'd think they'd be better at it, then.

C'mon Pete, it's Sams club, they're looking for cheap. :haha:

Pete Zicato 03-26-2013 09:40 AM

I suppose so. But we've bought many things from Sam that tasted fine.

footfootfoot 03-26-2013 10:35 AM

This taste assessment from a man who freely admits to being unwilling to make his own coconut milk Greek yogurt?

Consider the source, indeed!
:p:

wolf 03-26-2013 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Pete Zicato (Post 858252)
With Wonder bread gone, all sorts of wannabees have stepped up to the plate.

Recently we bought some Bimbo bread at Sams. (Yes, this is really a thing) Don't bother. It's dense and dry. Not what I want for a Wonder substitute.

But it is an eligible purchase for WIC and food stamps ... says so on the shelf in the welfare supermarket.

I drove past the Stroehman factory some months back (which means it was probably over a year ago) and was very surprised to see Papa Stroehman's face off the sign, replaced by the nowhere near as personable Bimbo bear.

My other great regret was the closing down of the Wonder Factory. It was on my way to college (and pretty much darn near anywhere else south of me). I used to love getting stuck at that traffic light and be totally enveloped in the aroma of Wonderbread.

Gravdigr 03-26-2013 05:13 PM

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Every time I read 'Bimbo', I think of this:

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That's Bimbo, the first pet I can remember.

Gravdigr 03-26-2013 05:13 PM

I don't think y'all would like his loaves near as much.

Griff 03-26-2013 05:16 PM

*snicker*

wolf 03-26-2013 05:16 PM

As far as the lightbulbs are concerned ... I'm sticking with the real kind. I like having enough light to be able to read without straining.

footfootfoot 03-27-2013 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Gravdigr (Post 858417)
I don't think y'all would like his loaves near as much.

I'll bet they were equally aromatic.:greenface

Gravdigr 04-01-2013 09:54 AM

Hah! Coon hound. That's rich.

Gravdigr 04-01-2013 01:31 PM

Looking at the coon hound mod...

It's like a reverse Instagram filter!

footfootfoot 04-03-2013 07:43 PM

And he's taller!

toranokaze 04-05-2013 11:34 AM

Bimbo will never be broken from the images of cheap white bread and pandulce.

Lamplighter 04-13-2013 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce (Post 857833)
The NY Times has an excellent roundup of LED bulbs now on the market.
Price, where to buy, type of light, programable features, etc.

Unfortunately, it seems there are always some duds out there...

Lighting Science
Mar 19, 2013

Gravdigr 02-12-2016 01:57 PM

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Canned bleurgh.:greenface

fargon 02-13-2016 07:40 AM

That is my favorite canned chili. I've been eating it since I was Born. Hooray for Texas.

Gravdigr 06-20-2016 09:15 AM

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Kentucky Race Day IPA

Now, I'll readily admit I don't like the taste of beer. But, I like the result of drinking beer. That's why I drink Bud Light, cuz it goes down like water, it's cheap and I can drink a ton of it and get drunk and not wake up the next day paralyzed, unable to function.

Someone left a sixer of these things in the fridge:

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Awful tasting shit. Someone who likes Lowenbrau, or Michelob Dark might like them. I had to chew each drink before I could swallow it. It's a bit thick on the tongue.

Just play it safe and avoid it if you can.

Undertoad 06-20-2016 09:20 AM

Your first IPA?

Gravdigr 06-20-2016 09:40 AM

I'm guessing that the 'chewiness' is a common thing with IPAs?

I'm not sure if it's my first or not...Definitely the most IPA I've drank. I finished the six of them.

I had to make a face, or two.

Gravdigr 06-20-2016 09:41 AM

The part I find a bit strong (the 'chewy' part), is that the hops, or, the malt talking?

Undertoad 06-20-2016 10:01 AM

http://www.ratebeer.com/beer/kentuck...on-ipa/348329/

Sounds like it just sucks as a beer frankly! I mean normally you'd expect about twice the flavor of a reg'lar beer and 1.5 times the alcohol.

lumberjim 06-20-2016 10:25 AM

Hops is a bitter citrus flavor. Like grapefruit rind. Malt is sweet and heavier. Like mollasses. The balance is the key. Your pallet is trainable. In 4.5 years, I've slowly affected Amandas preference just by making her taste my beer.

She now prefers Goose Island IPA. Used to drink Miller lite exclusively.

Gravdigr 06-20-2016 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Undertoad (Post 962699)
http://www.ratebeer.com/beer/kentuck...on-ipa/348329/

Sounds like it just sucks as a beer frankly! I mean normally you'd expect about twice the flavor of a reg'lar beer and 1.5 times the alcohol.

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Rubber bands!!! That's the smell I couldn't identify. It smelled like a fresh-bought bag of rubber bands.

As I mentioned, these were free. I'd hate to have paid for them.:yelsick:

xoxoxoBruce 06-20-2016 01:05 PM

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CarbonLite sells their wrenches as part of a 5-piece box end set. Each wrench has a metric side and an inch side. Inch sizes include 3/8?, 7/16?, 1/2?, 9/16?, and 5/8?, and the metric sizes include 10mm, 12mm, 13mm, 14mm, and 15mm.
All 5 wrenches weigh in at 6.7 oz combined. A complete set will set you back $140.
This is dumb, 20 odd layers of carbon fiber with stainless inserts. I suppose if Dad gets sick of ties for Christmas/Daddy Day, and you're grasping at straws, it's different. But in practice there's no advantage and they suck. :crone:

Gravdigr 06-20-2016 01:42 PM

If they're as strong as a steel wrench, I can see the attraction.

For repetitive work (like an assembly line) not requiring insane strength, I can see the applications.

Beest 06-20-2016 03:09 PM

I can imagine the insert loosening in the wrench pretty quickly

glatt 06-20-2016 03:20 PM

I would think that they would have a special weave to the carbon fiber cloth to give it better strength along the long axis of the wrench. Those short fibers going perpendicular to the long axis add very little strength.

xoxoxoBruce 06-20-2016 08:33 PM

Actually the short fibers tie the long ones together so they share the strain. Pulling on the wrench wants to compress the long ones on one side and stretch the long ones on the other.

But the fact remains this is a high tech solution to a nonexistent problem. Plus they're way too much money. Sure a polished Snap-On set could cost that much, but personally I think that's ridiculous, when you can get a Craftsman set for probably $30. I don't like the Snap-Ons because they're too slippery. Oh, and combination wrenches are more useful.

Gravdigr 08-30-2017 12:18 PM

The Barnes & Noble Nook HD+ is a goddamned turd. It is a motherfucking piece of shit. I could happily beat Mr. Barnes, and Mr. Noble to death with it. Smiling every second. I cannot believe this product made it to store shelves. There is no way, NO FUCKING WAY, I would have my name associated with this product.

Somebody, somewhere was the last person to have to sign their name on a document releasing this chalky, dried up, dog turd of a product to the market place. That person should be fired and prohibited from ever holding more responsibility than the fry guy at McDonald's. I'm not talking about the guy what cooks the fries, mind you, I'm talking about the guy who's job it is to put the cooked fries in the little paper sack, or the little cardboard carrier.

Looking at something online? SLAM!! Fuck you, Bunky, you're now looking at the desktop, or WETF they call it. Want to type in a web address? Go ahead, Pecky, type it in. Wait. Why doesn't my keyboard come up when I touch the address bar? Come to think of it why doesn't my touch screen work. Touch. Touch. Touch. TOUCH! TOUCH!!!! TOUCH, GODDAMMIT!!!!!!!!!!!

MOTHERFUCKER!!!!!!!!!!

I hope you get buttfucked, right in the mouth.

Gravdigr 08-30-2017 12:23 PM

Me: Turn the page.

Nook HD+: Whuh, what's that?

Me: Turn the page.

Nook:

Me: Please turn the page.

Nook: Whatsthatnow?

Me: Turn the page, y'know, swipe left to turn the page?

Nook: What is this, some new alien technology? I don't ev--desktop.

Gravdigr 08-30-2017 12:25 PM

One of these days, I'll prolly stick my finger right through this fucking thing.

Pico and ME 08-30-2017 12:32 PM

Sorry for your frustration but that was :lol::lol::lol:.

Gravdigr 08-30-2017 01:01 PM

Oh, I can totally see the humor. It ain't too funny rfn, but I can see it.:)

Flint 08-30-2017 04:28 PM

This is hilarious, you know it is.

You're responding the correct way--don't listen to those pansies who will try to calm you down. DESTROY THAT GARBAGE DEVICE. Teach it a lesson, HA HA HA ha ...

Happy Monkey 08-30-2017 05:10 PM

I'm pretty happy with my Kindle Fire, though I do wish it had a hardware button for page turning, so I could maintain a light grip, and just apply pressure to turn the page, rather than reach and swipe with my finger as I'm reading myself to sleep.

I think the e-ink kindles have hardware buttons, but I want it to be lit (but dimmable) so I can read myself to sleep with the lights off, and I want the option for other apps. It's a tradeoff.

DanaC 08-30-2017 05:24 PM

I have a 4th gen e-ink kindle - no backlight, and no touch screen. Page turning uses paddles on the sides.

I've had it since around 2012 and it still works well. No good for graphic novels or magazines, and books with illustrations of any kind suffer - but just a standard novel and it is great.

When I got mum a kindle, I got the newer touchscreen version of the e-ink model - very similar but with touch screen and better able to cope with magazine articles and the like. It is still black and white and very simple but works well. I deliberately got that one because it is the only one in the range without backlight.

The blue light that is emitted by kindle screens, like smart phone and tablet screens interferes with the brain's natural detection of night time and suppresses production of the sleep hormone.

Happy Monkey 08-30-2017 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by DanaC (Post 994921)
The blue light that is emitted by kindle screens, like smart phone and tablet screens interferes with the brain's natural detection of night time and the suppresses production of the sleep hormone.

Maybe, but the yellow light emitted by a lamp that's on when I fall asleep bypasses hormones altogether, and makes me wake up in the middle of the night to turn it off.

Gravdigr 08-31-2017 11:34 AM

This thing has ruined touch screens for me. Fuck a touch screen, I won't have one.

You guys should be around when this thing decides to fuck me over like I described. It's a slow burn that Jackie Gleason could be proud of. I can actually see Kramden using one and going all, well, Kramden on the thing.

I'd kinda like to see what it looks like, the slow build to near-violence. Probably quite entertaining.

Gravdigr 08-31-2017 11:36 AM

Oh, and the coolest thing about the Nook HD+?

About 25% of them brick theyself at the first update.

It is just a horrible product.

Pico and ME 08-31-2017 02:16 PM

Yeah, the Nook HD was my first tablet and it taught me to IGNORE THE UPDATES!

In fact, I am currently doing just that to my Samsung s6 phone. I just don't want to have to deal with the headache it will cause.


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