MOM!

Madam I'm Adam.

Here's another instance:This case works much better with the civil-rights-reminiscent "x delayed is x denied" framework. But again, it is within the judge's purview to stay the decision until the appeals are worked through. And, as it just makes sense to do so, he did.

Who's fucking whom, is hardly the same as releasing criminals from jail.

NPR may have been incorrect - I'm not sure a stay has been granted. There are conflicting reports, apparently.

That right there is the problem

Arizona is within the jurisdictional boundaries of the 9th Circuit of the US District Court. The seat of the 9th Circuit is in San Francisco. Ergo, the judge was in California. It's the only place the action could be heard.

Note - my most recent quote is a different (California) case, not the Arizona one. But your logic applies equally well.

ah, I see.

According to this liveblog, there is a temporary stay, until a hearing can be held on whether to continue the stay.

I was joking. CA - REALLY LIBERAL ... oh nevermind...




Note to self -
< don't forget the smilie>

ah, humor. I think I've heard of it!

The explanation was WAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY too long.
When that id the case the joke is ruined ... if it was ever funny at all.

Anyway - since we're on the subject ...
I find it interesting that a Bush appointed Judge who is openly gay decided on the case.
Many do not believe that influenced his decision.

You mean that example of an economic Liberal powerhouse? They are doing great aren't they?

I found several political cartoons about the AZ law here, but this one seemed to fit another current thread

I'm not sure what to make of this. The article does raise some good points and questions.

Across Texas, 60,000 babies of noncitizens get U.S. birthright

Oh and it discusses the applicability of the 14th amendment as well.

The help promised by the feds has finally arrived... sorta
CNSNews

Maybe you should ask WHY more funding hasnt arrived?

Could it be because McCain and Kyle (and the Senate Republicans) would not sign-on to the appropriation bill for additional funding (whining that it wasnt enough, despite the fact that the fy 10 funding request plus the supplemental was a significant increase over the previous years) and demanded more to fight the "crisis on the Arizona border that was out of control."

Or that the funding bill that did finally pass in Aug was a bill some here ridiculed because it was after the Senate adjourned and was "passed by unanimous consent" with only two Democrats in the chamber at the time.

Curious people ask WHY.....instead of stopping when they find an article that they think supports a pre-conceived position. Something you do all the time.

My advice. Change your signature, dude. Sagan doesnt really fit you.

This is more appropriate for you:

"It is better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to open one's mouth and remove all doubt."
- Abe Lincoln

When all one does (again and again and again with links that never tell the full story) is open one's mouth to find fault and never attempts to understand WHY, one could reasonably be called a fool.

Ya know. I removed everyone from my ignore list a week or so ago. I thought things had cooled to the point of civility. I was wrong.
Apparently we cannot coexist here. You obviously cannot help yourself.

I've tried. I completely ignored you and your lapdog shaw and a couple others for the good of the whole. You, and she, however find yourselves unable to do so.

I asked you nicely and not so nicely not to communicate with me - again for the good of the cellar. Not for me or you. I couldn't give a shit about you and you likewise about me.

Why is it that you have to start shit and try to tell me how to live my life what my sig should or shouldn't be and make completely unnecessary personal attacks at me - Especially after this.

Why couldn't you? Are you inherently incapable of leaving me alone? Seriously - Why is that you cannot just stay out of my life.
Why is it that you cannot help yourself? Do you have no self control? Are you so brainwashed in your beliefs that you feel compelled to try and control other people and their opinions thoughts and actions? Why would you prefer to start slinging shit on the board - again?

And for the rest of you who let posts by both of them go completely unchallenged over the past month or so... Why? You all spoke up when others did it. Whats the difference?

He responded to one of your posts. Your life remains stayed out of.

I'm a little surprised at you HM. Although you and I have disagreed quite a bit and have differing views, I've always respected your opinion and your position - till that post.
Nitpicking on an expression is lower than I really thought you would go.

If what I observed is wrong -- that day after day, you post links that find fault with Obama, Democrats, Global Warming, Mexicans, Muslims and yet, never tell the full story, but you add a baseless or sarcastic remark as if your link is factual....then I will apologize.

You want examples? Most recently, the fact is that you posted racially charged remarks because you were completely ignorant of how the ethics process works in the House.

On the funding of national guard troops on the border...again, you are ignorant of the facts as to why there has not been funding....yet you offer another sarcastic remark.

Try relying less on half-truths and misrepresentation of the facts and we can get along just fine.

Lets try again. I am no longer interested in getting along with you. You burned that bridge long ago. I do not like you nor am I interested in anything you have to say. All you do is parrot the party line. I can get that anywhere. Your constant regurgitation of the same is of no value whatsoever.

Hey thats cool.

You keep posting your links that ignore context, dont provide a full picture, or misrepresent the facts.

Add your one-line commentaries...and I will point out that you dont what the fuck you are talking about.

If I point out facts about the appropriations process or the ethics process or voting rights act, or immigration statistics, etc. and you want to call it the party line, thats cool too.

Ignorance by any other name, dude....you still demonstrate consistently that you dont have a clue as to most public policy issues. Its a shame you're not willing to be more open to learning, but evidently would rather get simple pleasures in criticizing what clearly you dont understand.

OK, it's time to Fetchez La Vache

Oh and your cheap shot at Shawnee, who is a lapdog to no one and a woman who thinks for herself and demonstrates character, intelligence and humor beyond your understanding, shows what little character you have.

Ya know refuck, you waste a lot of time and words on a well scripted insult. Just simply say fuck off. Taking up for your lapdog was expected. I'm sure I'll get tons of shit from her tomorrow as well. It just doesn't matter anymore - the two of you started it and the board will be full of shit post because you haven't the self control not to let lil ole insignificant me get to you. Pathetic.

I was responding to the author, you ass. I never called for shit. Get your facts straight.
AND as a matter of fact, I called him out on it.

There are some here who dont like my posting style (no sweat off my ass) but I know and you know and many others here know that you are not the brightest bulb in the Cellar.

For a classicman, you have no class ;)

Ohhh lookie lookie another long winded insult. I know that you underestimate my intelligence and try to degrade me and my opinions every chance you get. It bothers the crap outta you that you cannot convince me to agree with you and your opinions.

I dont give a fuck if you agree with my opinions or not....it has no impact on whats important to me and means nothing in the grand scheme.

I just have a low tolerance for ignorance.

Knock it the fuck off. :eyebrow:

Interesting. So why would they purposefully delay that appointment of judges to the court? [/conspiracytheory]So they can slow down the removal of illegal immigrants and grind the process to a halt?

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/ezr...mmigratio.html

So now this? are you feaking kidding me?

Sorry bruce, but the fucker just keeps at it even after we agreed not to - same with shaw. They have chosen to keep doing this, not I. I will respond. Fuck them. Thats bullshit.

I upheld my part of the agreement. It is they who repeatedly did not.

Merc - Its the R's fault - they are holding up the nominations. Filibustering and all that.

I agree he baited you, but you took it hook, line, and sinker. Don't.

Sure, I baited him.

But only after pointing out that he obviously didnt understand why there were so few National Guard posted to the border to-date to assist with border security -- because the Senate Republicans would not vote for the funding requested by the Administration to provide a significant number of National Guard for border security, just not the number that McCain demanded with his over-the-top rhetoric to "protect fearful Arizonans from the growing threats of violence" perpetrated by illegal immigrants.

I know he doesnt like to read the facts if it contradicts his simplistic one-line commentaries. :)

added:

More on baiting and how to respond.

UG baits me all the time. If I choose to respond, and I often do because its good for a laugh, I respond with facts and not by whining that UG is picking on me or some childish remark about blowjobs.

I understood perfectly why there weren't more there. The sooner you stop assuming you know what do or don't agree with or think the better everyone will be.
Don't project your biases on to me and don't offer me any more advice.
In fact, lets try this - Honor your word and don't interact with me at all.
What a concept.

Sure...you understood....right dude!

Like you understand so many other issues where you throw out your one-line commentaries following your daily links that you agree with that and find fault with policies you dont like but that never provide the full story or misrepresents the facts.
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I will keep point out when your commentaries are inconsistent with understanding the facts.

And you can complain to Bruce that I keep picking on you.

Exactly.

Hey...my word is to expose ignorance and you consistently make yourself a prime target.

Changing the posts of others (which you do quite frequently -- see remarks about blowjobs below) is a sure sign of intelligence of a higher order. Hey, if it makes you feel better about yourself, go for it! :D

I tried that - they didn't - fuck that. I'll not stand by for the BS anymore.
The time to have spoken up was when I was honoring our deal and they were not.

You mean when you removed the ignore list that you claimed to have used.

yup exactly. Are you now calling me a liar?

Just put back the ignore list sparky. I don't care who started it, so no whining. There's nothing anyone has done to get you to this level of butthurt, you're just too super-sensitive all the time. So buck up, ignore the haters and stop ruining threads.

Gotcha. That seems to be the general consensus.
Thanks.

And now some input from PA....
Yahoo

This is nowhere near what AZ proposed and yet is still got squashed.

A new sort of personality/character test...
 

NY Times article

Water Drops for Migrants: Kindness, or Offense?

He should be convicted of conspiracy.

Why are they critics then?

It's in their nature. They just have to complain about something.

Because the agents aren't there to arrest them after they drink.