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richlevy 03-02-2009 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Radar (Post 540048)
That's a lot like the Bladder Buddy used by truckers.

Send as a gift???????

Quote:

Originally Posted by monster (Post 540188)
Dwellar Dogs

TubeToads

BTW, there are a lot of hot sauces with Hell and Devil in their names, so I'm sure everyone is used to it. I'd be much more worried about infringement, although the term "Devil Dog" goes back to WWI Marines, and noone is going to confuse a hot dog with a snack cake.

Glinda 03-02-2009 10:42 AM

Top Dogs/Dawgs
Franken Footers (foot longs)
Monster Dogs/Dawgs
Pup Tent
Grillers

Radar 03-02-2009 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by glatt (Post 540281)
When you mentioned the name Devil Dogs, the first thing I thought of was the twinkie-like snack cakes I used to eat occasionally as a kid. So I just looked them up. The trademark is owned by Drake's which is a subsidiarity of Interstate Bakeries Corp. They are the same company that makes Twinkies under the Hostess brand.

I bet that if they discovered you were selling a food item using their food trademark, they would put a stop to it. Although they appear to have stopped selling the product in Florida in 2005, so you may be able to argue that point if they approach you.

http://www.drakescakesonline.com/ima...il_dogs_sm.jpg


I don't think they would have a case unless I was selling snack cakes.

Radar 03-02-2009 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce (Post 540305)
Hot Diggidy Dogs.

That one is already taken.

Radar 03-02-2009 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by richlevy (Post 540306)
Send as a gift???????


TubeToads

BTW, there are a lot of hot sauces with Hell and Devil in their names, so I'm sure everyone is used to it. I'd be much more worried about infringement, although the term "Devil Dog" goes back to WWI Marines, and noone is going to confuse a hot dog with a snack cake.


There's devil food's cake, deviled ham, etc.

As you said, the term "Devil Dogs" is pretty old. I genuinely don't think I'd be infringing on Drakes if I used the name to sell hot dogs rather than snack cakes. Though if it would make them feel better, I'd sell their cakes too. ;)

If it turns out it does infringe on their name, I can change mine to "Red Hot Devil Dogs" or "Devil Dog Red Hots".

dar512 03-02-2009 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Radar (Post 539773)
I'm still trying to come up with a cute, fun, mischievous but non-threatening, hot dog mascot with horns and a pitchfork with a pointy arrow tail. I can put it on menus, signs, punch cards, hats, t-shirts, the van I'll use to pull the cart, etc. for branding.

Think twice about the pointy horn and pitchfork mascot. FreeBSD had this cute mascot for years. But finally gave way to public perception and now have this.

monster 03-02-2009 11:10 AM

Lucifer's Lunch?

Radar 03-02-2009 11:24 AM

The terms Satan, Lucifer, Beelzebub, Hell, etc. bring up menacing visions of scary stuff. The term "Devil" does not. Girls in the south often say, "You Devil" when describing guys. It's a playful, mischievous, and fun term.

Shawnee123 03-02-2009 12:24 PM

How about "Must Love Dogs"?

kerosene 03-02-2009 12:33 PM

Or Dog Eat Dog?

lumberjim 03-02-2009 01:38 PM

Green Dogs


you'll sell out

Radar 03-02-2009 01:52 PM

Gator Dogs....made from real gator! ;)

My guess is somewhere in Florida, they have Gator Dogs already.

LabRat 03-03-2009 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Radar (Post 540146)
I don't see using a playful lil' devil as anything even the most twisted and warped fundamental Christian would be offended by something so cute, and lovable. It's a hot dog with horns for Pete's sake.

Just FYI Radar, you'd be surprised.

Two years ago I ran the first annual Devil's Dash. It was a cross country run at Halloween. I ran it mostly because of the logo design that was on the T-shirts. Alas, I apparently was in the vast minority. The race co-oordinator got so many bad reviews of the name/logo that he changed it to Muddy Monster.

:headshake

At least now I have a one of a kind T-shirt and award.




FWIW, I have never eaten at any of the carts that pepper the ped mall downtown here. Because? Well, it just makes me nervous frankly. The people serving look scuzzy, so I honestly just don't trust their food. I might try something though if I knew of someone who ate at one regularly and hadn't gotten sick, or I knew the guy preparing the food.

Make sure you and that cart are sparkling clean if you want my business. ::2cents::

Undertoad 03-03-2009 01:08 PM

Whole-wheat buns. You'll sell only one out of 50, but it shows you care.

Radar 03-03-2009 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by LabRat (Post 540896)

Make sure you and that cart are sparkling clean if you want my business. ::2cents::



The cart I am going to use is very clean and professional looking and I will keep it that way.

http://topdogcarts.com/carts.html

I will also make sure I look clean and professional looking. :)


I'm nervous about being sued so I am thinking of using a 3 word alliteration for the name of the business.


Here's what I've got so far.


Dante's Devil Dogs

or

Delicious Devil Dogs
Decadent Devil Dogs
Delightful Devil Dogs

or non-alliteration

Devil Dog Red Hots

Red Hot Devil Dogs



Of these which do you like the best?

Pie 03-03-2009 02:39 PM

Radar's House of Ill Repute

Radar 03-03-2009 02:47 PM

That's an entirely different kind of business and it cost a lot more to start up. My wife might frown on it.


My best friend thinks I should use "Friendly Paul's Delicious Dogs". He thinks the "friendly" thing will get people to stop by.

How about...

Pauly Dogs

Shawnee123 03-03-2009 02:51 PM

Sounds too much like polliwogs.

Radar 03-03-2009 02:56 PM

I know. That's why it's funny. ;)

Pie 03-03-2009 03:02 PM

Makes me think of Pauly Shore. :vomit:

dar512 03-03-2009 03:07 PM

How bout "Best in Show" or "Top Dog".

Skunks 03-03-2009 03:16 PM

I wouldn't bother with veggie dogs unless you can find a way to cook them completely separate. I know very few people who don't want to eat meat, but are okay with it being cooked on the same surface / steamed in the same water as meat.

But get good, fresh buns. Sourdough, maybe a whole grain. And if you want to get on the health food kick, find breads and ketchup that don't include high fructose corn syrup.

I also don't think Devil Dogs in any form is a good idea. I recently moved from Eugene, Oregon to rural, upstate NY; there are fundamental differences. Going from cali to Florida you just leave that bubble of cultural comfort.

If your business model for the next several years is dependent on you being the only person running the cart, then market it with your name. Your interaction with customers, your appearance, and your taste in food / preparation is going to be a significant part of your product, so market that. Keep it clear that you're a one-man operation. "Paul's Way: Healthy & Delicious Hot Dogs"

Radar 03-03-2009 03:16 PM

Top Dog = Taken
Best in Show = Makes people think I'm serving actual dogs.

Pie 03-03-2009 03:27 PM

Obedience Training

glatt 03-03-2009 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Skunks (Post 540939)
If your business model for the next several years is dependent on you being the only person running the cart, then market it with your name. Your interaction with customers, your appearance, and your taste in food / preparation is going to be a significant part of your product, so market that. Keep it clear that you're a one-man operation. "Paul's Way: Healthy & Delicious Hot Dogs"

I agree with this.

And I personally like simple names. Just call it "Paul's" and have a big friendly picture of a hot dog. If it's a one word name, then that word will be larger and more memorable.

It works for "Nathan's."

classicman 03-03-2009 04:00 PM

Delicious Dogs
Decadent Dogs
Delightful Dogs

Sheldonrs 03-03-2009 04:50 PM

Doggone

Hot Diggitys'

The Weiner's Circle

Possible slogan - "Put our weiners in your mouth"

Flint 03-03-2009 05:38 PM

I agree--use your name. And just to be clear, wear a nametag that says Paul. "Welcome to Pauly Dogs. Hi, I'm Paul."

Aliantha 03-03-2009 05:42 PM

What about Pauls Puppy Dogs?...or Pauls Puppies. lol You might need to gain a bit more weight... ;)

monster 03-03-2009 08:17 PM

shame it's not a meatball cart. Paul's Balls has a certain ring to it....

monster 03-03-2009 08:20 PM

Freedom Dogs

Aliantha 03-03-2009 08:21 PM

constitution dogs

monster 03-03-2009 08:25 PM

Liberty Dogs

Paul's Poodles or... Poodles au Pain or Paul's Poodles Au Pain....


or just American Dogs


or International Dogs

Paul's Hot goDs?

littlepixie 03-03-2009 09:45 PM

Paul's Perfect Dogs

Flint 03-03-2009 09:55 PM

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Originally Posted by littlepixie (Post 541119)
Paul's Perfect Dogs

That's good. That's really good.

Radar 03-03-2009 10:29 PM

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Originally Posted by monster (Post 541071)
shame it's not a meatball cart. Paul's Balls has a certain ring to it....


Very nice. I kind of like that.

Radar 03-03-2009 10:30 PM

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Originally Posted by monster (Post 541075)
Liberty Dogs

Paul's Poodles or... Poodles au Pain or Paul's Poodles Au Pain....


or just American Dogs


or International Dogs

Paul's Hot goDs?


Actually I thought about All American Dogs and Liberty Dogs with a copy of the bill of rights printed on every napkin. :)

monster 03-03-2009 10:34 PM

that would be cool

maybe better where there are fewer "immigrants" though

Flint 03-03-2009 10:36 PM

dude. the crazy hotdog guy thing might work. like dr. bronner's soap

BigV 03-03-2009 11:27 PM

http://www.google.com/search?q=kogi+korean+taco+blog

this ugly link is about a story I heard on the radio the other day, Radar. it is about a taco truck in LA, but they have two hooks.

One, it's Korean / Mexican fusion. weird enough to make headlines.

Two, they have a blog and a twitter feed that has developed a serious following. People listen to the feed to know where to meet the truck. There's an element of celebrity about it.

Check it out.

Radar 03-04-2009 12:46 AM

That's pretty awesome BigV. I guess if I get a following, I can let people know where I am on a website or through twitters.

Korean Mexican Fusion sounds really interesting.

jbt 03-04-2009 01:10 AM

Check out Puka Dog, http://www.pukadog.com/. I love their hot dogs and ate there a couple of times when I visited Kauai. It is the best dog I have ever had.

It seems they started small at a hut and grew from there because they had an excellent hook of a custom premium dog, unique sauce, tropical relish, and a inner toasted bun.

xoxoxoBruce 03-04-2009 03:22 AM

Quote:

Prairie Dog
Invented by Bat Masterson

Take a wiener and split it lengthwise.
Rub the insides of the wiener with ground sage, and broil until done.
On one side of a bun, spread mustard and cover with thinly sliced dill pickle.
On the other, sprinkle with Worcestershire.
"It makes the usual catsup and mustard wiener sandwich taste very poor in comparison"

Radar 03-04-2009 01:56 PM

I thought Bat Masterson was just a TV character.

monster 03-04-2009 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Aliantha (Post 541074)
constitution dogs

Would they have a lot of fiber? Like Bran Dogs or something?

xoxoxoBruce 03-04-2009 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Radar (Post 541308)
I thought Bat Masterson was just a TV character.

C'mon. :rolleyes:

Radar 03-06-2009 12:53 AM

When I was about 2 or 3, I loved ships and boats in general. My grandmother called me "Skipper". My parents shortened it and called me Skip and still do. This is the name I went by in school, and the name everyone in my family still uses. In fact all of my childhood friends and even High School friends use this name when they talk to me. To everyone else I'm Paul.

My dad says I should use the name "Skip's Dogs & Chips"

I kind of like the sound if it.

dar512 03-06-2009 09:22 AM

Sounds workable.

wolf 03-06-2009 11:11 AM

The name doesn't matter so much.

It's going to be about you recognition, not business name recognition. Probably the only place that the name will matter is on the business registration documents.

When you eat at food carts, you find some unique identifier, like "the Lebanese cart" or "The Mexican cart with the red hubcaps," or "The red and yellow one down at the corner."

Brick and mortar stores have names and pretty signs, carts not so much.

Keep your big bottle of waterless handwash prominently displayed, and have another one available for the customers. Don't re-use rubber gloves. Do not take money wearing a glove and serve another customer. People appreciate stuff like that.

Trilby 03-06-2009 11:22 AM

Will there be any Desert Dogs? Like hot-dog shaped cakes on lemon-meringue
buns, with cherry sauce (for ketchup) ?

Coz that would be cool.

Pie 03-06-2009 12:41 PM

An Éclair! with a quiggle of strawberry sauce down the middle... :yum:

Radar 03-06-2009 04:13 PM

Actually I was going to make these small cheesecake cupcakes with a nilla wafer at the bottom as the crust and pie filling (cherry, apple, etc.) on the top. I wasn't going to sell them. Just give them away to make people smile and come back. They are super easy and cheap to make and I wouldn't give them to everyone; just people who are either new customers that are extra friendly or regulars who ask for them.

lumberjim 03-19-2009 10:35 PM

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monster 03-20-2009 09:17 AM

Bat Dogs. In Cape Canaveral

http://www.cellar.org/showthread.php...218#post547218

Radar 03-20-2009 06:14 PM

Jim, the original one they tried with the dog on the end of the pitchfork didn't look right...the tail didn't either.

http://www.go2gym.com/images/dantetest.jpg

Flint 03-20-2009 07:10 PM

Dude. Those are too busy. You're not a multi-national corporation. Try a picture of a hotdog.

Radar 03-20-2009 07:17 PM

I'm using the mascot to build branding and also to give me the opportunity to make a few bucks selling merchandise in addition to the food.

That works whether you're a local business or a multi-national conglomerate.

wolf 03-24-2009 10:51 AM

If you've got good dogs at a reasonable price you'll be halfway there.

The other half is going to involve being extremely personable, and not discussing politics.

Decca 03-24-2009 03:46 PM

Radar: GOOD LUCK!!

Radar 03-24-2009 05:10 PM

Thanks Decca...and Wolf. I will do all I can to never bring up politics. That's why I didn't pick the name "Liberty Dogs" as I contemplated doing. I thought I'd print the bill of rights on all the napkins.

This might be a good idea for someone in Washington DC though.


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