Me.

who cares... Don't come to Briton its no longer English... we cant even celebrate our own saints for fear of upsetting minority's ... white middle class English men no longer even have a place here :( and we are taxed to death!

is it the bastard offspring of a green puppet frog and a common dove?

Sounds like you need to become an expatriot ;)

I'm tempted to point out all the spelling and grammatical mistakes you have made in the above post and challenge whether you are in fact a true Englishman after all. But that would be curmudgeonly.

I assume the fact that "we can't celebrate our own saints" means you are Christian? I'm atheist personally, but I accept people who believe in (to me, mythical) deities should have their fun. In fact I even go along with it. That's why I don't roll my eyes when the arts company I work for has more enquiries for St Patrick's Day and St George's Day than I can handle. That's why I smile at all the flags of St George hanging out of windows on April 23rd, and the fact the pub I work in had a live band, special food and prizes.

Funny that I see so much celebration of Christianity when I don't suscribe to the beliefs, and yet you who do think it's in some way forbidden.

no im just stupid

He shouldn't have made a promise everyone in their right mind knew he'd never keep.

He pulled the wool over the voting publics eyes in order to secure another election win, then didn't have a good enough spin doctor to ensure another win after the normal course of events took place.

Brianna, if you wanted this to be another 'just for fun' thread, maybe you should have put it somewhere other than philosophy.

It's a serious subject you know...thinking about stuff but not actually doing anything. :)

It was a fun thread until about post #18 ;)

I'm not feeling the love Ducks. lol

Umm....has anybody actually prevented you from celebrating 'our' Saint's day? I presume you are referring to St George? Would that be the same St George who wasn't even an English saint?

Or, did you just get that from a BNP leaflet, racist letter to the local rag, or worse, the Daily Mail?


I remember a year or so ago being told by someone that "This country's not our own any more. We're second class citizens in our own country etc etc etc can't even put up christmas decorations in Bradford now in case we upset the pakis" This person really believed it. I had that story told me by more than one person, it began to do the rounds and took on the aura of truth through repetition.

I can however attest to its utter falsity. I shop in Bradford every Christmas and have done for the last 14 years. On no one of those 14 years have I arrived in Bradford to see no christmas decorations. Christmas trees, santa, reindeer, snowflakes candles etc etc.

St George's day last year I was told by someone that we hadn't been allowed to fly the flag of St George. Utter tripe. I saw plenty of them around town, in people's windows, in the Town Hall...... but.. the flags that motorists had taken to attaching to their cars were deemed a potential danger as, were they to detach themselves whilst traveling high speed down a motorway, they could cause a crash if they flew into the window of the car at the rear.


I think there was a spell when the flag of St George took on very negative connotations and councils were a little reluctant to plaster their townhalls in something whchhad become a symbol of overt racism. I don;t think that's the case now because our town hall was plastered in them the other day. But....if, and this is a big if, if a council has been reluctant to put up St George flags, why not direct your ire at the people who gave it such negative connotations: the NF and BNP. Racist bastards hijack national symbols and instead of getting angry with them for doing so, we get angry with the victims of their racism.

Shall I check with you before I start threads? Shall you be my guide? Gee, I'm all a-quiver with anticipation. :rolleyes:

Actually, Ali, I had no idea this would beat you out of the bushes, but I should have guessed, as SD said earlier. You've quite the chip there about your beloved Oz and you bring a lot of bitterness to the table; perhaps you should research that and try to find out why.

Well, first of all, I was joking. Couldn't you tell by my nice little smiley face? Second of all, you've been here long enough to know that threads rarely end up where they started, so don't even bother trying to tell me that it's all my fault.

I suppose you didn't notice the discussion about saints day being had by the brits? I'm not sure what that has to do with the topic of the thread either, but you go ahead and just do the same boring thing you usually do. Oh wait, I think I hear your friends coming to back you up.

LOL...you make me laugh. You really do. Thanks. :)

Oh, and I haven't been hiding. I'm sure UT can tell you that I've been lurking about checking out the same threads I usually do.

Seriously, why the persecution complex?

Oh, just leave it, Lookout. Obviously I've struck a nerve!


I'm glad I can provide you some happiness, Ali. You really need all you can scratch up, don't you?

Now, if you'll excuse me, I've far more pleasant people to engage. Ta!

:)

I could tell where this thread was headed as soon as it was posted!! And hey it isn't Bri's fault...It's the fault of militant assholes that unneccessarily defend their country, when it was in no way being attacked.

It isn't Bri's fault that you cannot have a decent conversation on this board about your own country, or the difference between two different countries.

She didn't tell people to troll. She didn't tell people to take offense immediately either.

You can't blame her for asking an easy question and getting fucked up answers. Think about it...This topic should have been easy to discuss. Not on the cellar!!! And that's not her fault. The nature of all cellarites has nothing to do with her.

Simple question right? Naaah. Not here. Someone always has to be a cock....but hey that's the cellar right?

I am going to go on a mission. I am going to go find the most ridiculous arguement on the cellar that sprang from something that should have been incredibly easy to talk about. (hey sometimes I am the perp too)
:)

lol...it's not a complex. Look, there's one now, defending Brianna who quite clearly doesn't need it.

I'm not responsible for the way some people (the same people time and again) react to the things I say here. They are responsible for it. They have some preconcieved notion of who I am and what my motivations are. They think they know me, but I think they're mistaken, and it doesn't seem to matter what I say or do, they still cling to these beliefs. I can't change they way they think about me, and quite frankly, wouldn't want to anyway, but this issue is getting tired, and it stems from people thinking the wrong thing, to the detriment of themselves.

I'm quite secure in myself, and I am a happy person. Ask anyone who really knows me. I am respected and valued by my peers, so suggestions to the contrary by people on an internet forum really do make me laugh. Not unkindly and not in any negative way. It's just that I don't understand why they continually do it.

I'm sure there'll be people willing to stand up and say that I bring it on myself etc...blah blah...but seriously, if I'm discussion an issue, I don't resort to personal attacks barring one or two occasions where I was denigrated to the point where I let myself down by responding. For these things I'm sorry, mostly to myself. I don't believe it shows much strength of character when one resorts to personal attacks when discussing issues which are not necessarily personal.

I have been more than generous with a number of people who come here to post. I have been compassionate and understanding. Those people need not be named, but they are there. I just don't spend my time telling everyone about the nice things I do for people because I don't think it's necessary.

There are a lot of people here who are mistaken about me. That's very true. I think it's a shame that they feel that way, but I'm not responsible for them or their choices. They will think and feel how they wish to think and feel because of the things that've happened to them. That's fine with me. I'm exactly the same. I can do no less. None of us can.

So how bout we all just cut the bullshit and be honest and perhaps accept that some people have made decisions about their perceptions based on false information? Wouldn't that be nice?