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Griff 03-19-2008 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Shawnee123 (Post 440023)
Hillary is Al? Srsly?

truly
That is why the Dems lose the general election to McCrazyperson if she is the nominee.

Undertoad 03-19-2008 01:01 PM

We thought Clinton would screw up the economy. We were wrong.

piercehawkeye45 03-19-2008 01:20 PM

Obama was just covering his ass, his target audience was quite obvious.

The speech was nice but I think it lacked major depth. He mentioned many times of the problems we have in our society but nothing of how to solve them or the sacrifices needed to solve them. Yes, a unified America is needed for change but the civil rights movement would never have happened if people weren't attacked by police dogs and soaked with fire hoses on a regular basis.

He said that a disparity exists between white and black schools, but the solution he even hinted at was that whites will start having to fund black schools, which I don't think will work.

aimeecc 03-19-2008 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Griff (Post 440025)
truly
That is why the Dems lose the general election to McCrazyperson if she is the nominee.

The latest polls have McCain down only 1 or two points versus either Obama or Clinton. Statistically a tie, considering the error factor.

I think the Dems are going to lose either way. There's too many unknowns on Obama - which the Republicans will play very well. Clinton. Well, she's Hillary Clinton. So McCain it is.

McCain isn't McCrazyperson. He won't be bad. Honestly, none of them will be bad. Each has strengths and weaknesses.

I just wish it was Nov already so we can get the election over with. I'm tired of it already and we haven't even finished the primaries.

Griff 03-19-2008 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by piercehawkeye45 (Post 440039)
He said that a disparity exists between white and black schools, but the solution he even hinted at was that whites will start having to fund black schools, which I don't think will work.

Actually, ideas to do just that at the state level have been floated. There has been a lot of tinkering with property taxes for "clean and green" (PA's version) and property tax relief for farmers and retirees. This shifting burden pisses people off. I could see it sneaking through in the form of state taxes combined with property taxes so rich people can still get better schools and the poor get minimum funding. Of course this moves us further toward ending locally controlled school, but the Kennedite/Busherian ultra-nationalists already support that. (I'm having fun with words here but srysl that style funding is not out of the question.)

Griff 03-19-2008 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by aimeecc (Post 440043)
McCain isn't McCrazyperson. He won't be bad. Honestly, none of them will be bad. Each has strengths and weaknesses.


lookout123 03-19-2008 02:19 PM

is he the only candidate to say some stupid shit?


Griff 03-19-2008 02:50 PM

Wow. That was stupid. McCain swung right by stupid to land on evil though.

lookout123 03-19-2008 02:55 PM

eh, i thought it was pretty stereotypical midwest humor that fit right in with his surroundings. the guy's a career politician, he slipped into character.

Griff 03-19-2008 02:57 PM

we're in worse shape than i thought

lookout123 03-19-2008 02:58 PM

what? you didn't realize they were politicians?

Griff 03-19-2008 03:03 PM

i had this idea that midwesterners cared about stuff like the price of corn and wheat and left the bomb fantasies to hollywood

Radar 03-19-2008 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by aimeecc (Post 440043)
I think the Dems are going to lose either way.

The Dems will win no matter what. They could have video of Obama doing Clinton with 2 girlscouts and a boyscout on a pile of crack cocaine while taking a crap on the American flag and McCain still would have absolutely no chance. Keep in mind that double the number of Americans have voted for Obama than McCain and that's just half of the Democratic Party.

America is sick to death of Republicans. They are even more fiscally irresponsible and dishonest than Democrats...which I thought couldn't be done.

Nothing the Democrats do will prevent them from winning, and nothing the Republicans do will prevent them from failing.

lookout123 03-19-2008 03:15 PM

6 words: dead girl or a live boy

Radar 03-19-2008 03:23 PM

The Dems wouldn't lose if Obama was having a 3-way with both.

Clodfobble 03-19-2008 03:28 PM

Wow. How will you ever handle the cognitive dissonance if it turns out you're wrong? As I recall, you were pretty damn sure there was no way Kerry could lose either.

Radar 03-19-2008 03:33 PM

He would have won if it weren't for Diebold. This time even they can't help the Republicans. There are just too many people. The voter turnout for Democrats is higher than it's been in 30 years.

Griff 03-19-2008 03:36 PM

dead girls never hurt Dems before:driving: :drunk:

Radar 03-19-2008 03:39 PM

live boys haven't hurt the Republicans either.

Griff 03-19-2008 03:45 PM

Actually, I suspect something that doesn't reach that level could sink him. I'll just wait and see. Do people still listen to Limbaugh? He could always get the faithful riled up over something.

Flint 03-19-2008 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Radar (Post 440085)
The Dems will win no matter what.

Not if everyone walks around saying the Dems will win no matter what.

Happy Monkey 03-19-2008 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Griff (Post 440111)
Do people still listen to Limbaugh?

Not in the Republican primary they didn't. He all but called McCain the antichrist.

lookout123 03-19-2008 04:04 PM

He's been calling McCain the antichrist for more than 8 years now. The R's find themselves in the same spot that the D's were in '04. No one really inspired them and the more electable choices dropped out a bit too soon. Romney dropping out really through the R process off. People will be blaming Huckabee for that for awhile I believe.

SteveDallas 03-19-2008 07:15 PM

As usual, The Onion comes through.

classicman 03-19-2008 08:41 PM

Wow - that one really nailed it.

TheMercenary 03-22-2008 07:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Radar (Post 440102)
He would have won if it weren't for Diebold.

More Conspiracy BS without basis for fact.

TheMercenary 03-22-2008 10:55 AM

http://www.cnsnews.com/ViewPolitics....20080321a.html

Radar 03-22-2008 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by TheMercenary (Post 440803)
More Conspiracy BS without basis for fact.

As usual, you couldn't find your ass with both hands and a map.

You got it right in that it was a conspiracy, but you're wrong about the facts. You might want to watch the movie "Hacking Democracy" or visit Bev Harris's website http://www.blackboxvoting.org

Radar 03-22-2008 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by TheMercenary (Post 440834)

There isn't enough boost on earth for McCain to beat Obama

grassy 03-22-2008 04:15 PM

?Their signs
 
Clinton is a Scorpio, Obama is a Leo, and McCain is a Virgo??????? I think in the end Clinton will steal it from Barack! cindy

Griff 03-22-2008 04:26 PM

I just listened to someone tell me that Obama is a muslim and moments later that his minister is a racist, so I guess with some folks the "scandal" layers will all be accepted as truth, but won't be compared.

smoothmoniker 03-22-2008 04:44 PM

No no, you have to get it right.

He's a SECRET Muslim, so of course he would go to a Christian church for 20 years to throw people off the scent.

Griff 03-22-2008 04:46 PM

Wow. I knew the Moors were devious but I had no idea.

TheMercenary 03-22-2008 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Radar (Post 440866)
As usual, you couldn't find your ass with both hands and a map.

You got it right in that it was a conspiracy, but you're wrong about the facts. You might want to watch the movie "Hacking Democracy" or visit Bev Harris's website http://www.blackboxvoting.org

More BS. A movie some Bush hater makes for some dumb ass with an agend does not make if fact no matter how hard you get when you read it.

Radar 03-22-2008 05:19 PM

A movie made by someone who wants fair elections and who CAUGHT people throwing away ballots, who found that the Republican national committee had paid money to Diebold, who proved that the machines could easily be hacked into, etc.

The truth hurts, and that's why you're a little bitch and try to avoid it.

TheMercenary 03-22-2008 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Radar (Post 440890)
A movie made by someone who wants fair elections and who CAUGHT people throwing away ballots, who found that the Republican national committee had paid money to Diebold, who proved that the machines could easily be hacked into, etc.

You're some guys bitch I am sure of that. You ignore the fact that demoncrats pull the same shite. Becase something is possible does not make if fact in your hottest fantasy.

Radar 03-22-2008 06:20 PM

You are my bitch. I'm sure of that.

I don't like the Democrats anymore than I do Republicans. Although I will say the Democrats are open and honest about their intentions. Both of them want larger, costlier, more intrusive government that violates our rights more and more and steals more of our income.

The only difference is which of our rights will be violated and where the stolen money will be spent. Also, Democrats tax us openly while Republicans use "invisible" tax by deficit spending and having more money made to make up the difference which causes inflation and reduces the value of the dollar (which we are experiencing right now). It's a hidden tax because Republicans are dishonest about their dishonesty, and Democrats are honest about their dishonesty.

In any case, Bush won in HIGHLY questionable elections and refused to allow UN observers to watch over the last ones. Money from the Republican Party was paid to the maker of the voting machines, and the CEO of that company said in public that he would deliver the election to Bush.

There is no such evidence for Democrats. If there were, I'd be the first one to jump on them. In addition to that, Democrats are less willing to start unprovoked wars of aggression that get thousands of Americans killed without legitimate cause and without being in the defense of America. It's not just a matter of it being possible. It's probable based on actual evidence and facts. You know, the stuff you like to ignore.

TheMercenary 03-22-2008 07:57 PM

Not proof; sorry to bust your fantasy.

So you want men to be your bitch? I am sure that you could find an illegal alien to help you out. I don't swing that way. But have at it.

TheMercenary 03-22-2008 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Radar (Post 440903)
I love a good consipracy theory.

Yea, we know already.

lumberjim 03-22-2008 08:31 PM

spammer!

Radar 03-22-2008 08:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheMercenary (Post 440920)
Yea, we know already.

I didn't post a conspiracy theory. I posted a conspiracy fact. I realize in your tiny and pathetic excuse for half a brain, you don't know the difference, but luckily for me, the rest of America knows everything I've said is true and factual; especially the stuff about you being a gutless little bitch. :)

And yes, you chose to become my bitch when you were stupid enough to challenge your intellectual, social, and moral superior (me). Now wash my car bitch. When you're done with that, pick up my dry cleaning.

TheMercenary 03-22-2008 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Radar (Post 440927)
I love a good conspiracy theory. It makes me hard.

Yea, we can tell already. Hump an illegal alien and get some relief already! :lol2:

TheMercenary 03-22-2008 08:41 PM

Radar I found your bitches you so desire. They wait for you in lock up.

http://blogs.trb.com/news/politics/b...%20small-thumb

Radar 03-22-2008 08:47 PM

You found my bitch when you looked in the mirror. If I wanted an undocumented immigrant, I'd probably just talk to one of the ones I've hired to do my yard work or to clean up my uncle's machine shop. They are far less likely to commit crimes than American born citizens.

Also, stop posting shit I never said and claiming it was me. Nobody here is as stupid as you so they won't buy it.

TheMercenary 03-22-2008 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Radar (Post 440934)
Sure I would love to hang with those guys in the lock up. I love illegal aliens.

We know already, give it up.

Ibby 03-22-2008 09:37 PM

is there anything more immature and juvenile than quote-editing?

TheMercenary 03-22-2008 10:02 PM

Teens who post with a bunch of adults?

Or maybe it is people who like to call everyone a bitch and the people who support them? :lol2:

TheMercenary 03-23-2008 08:18 AM

Richardson Throws Support to Obama

"Your candidacy is a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity for our country, and you are a once-in-a-lifetime leader," said Richardson, the nation's only Hispanic governor, before a cheering crowd of about 12,000 in Portland's Memorial Coliseum. "You will make every American proud to be an American."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...l?hpid=topnews

richlevy 03-23-2008 03:00 PM

I find this very interesting. Richardson was on my short list of candidates I would have liked to see win among Democrats and Republicans.

He has one of the best resumes of any of the candidates. He's both Hispanic and a border state governor, giving him a unique perspective on immigration.

He's also a (now probably former) friend of the Clintons. I'm still on the fence, giving equal weight to Clinton, Obama, and McCain. I have to say though, that if Obama picked Richardson as a VP, he'd probably leapfrog over anyone McCain would pick, especially since Condi has carried too much water for Bush and Powell seems reluctant to run.

Many of the former shining stars in foreign policy are too old or too burdened with baggage to pass scrutiny as a VP candidate. McCain and Obama both need a strong foreign-policy VP - someone who can negotiate or show a presence where the Secretary of State isn't enough.

This is getting interesting.

TheMercenary 03-23-2008 03:16 PM

I have to agree. I am anxious to see who Obama is going to pick. There is no way I can vote for Hillary. Obama needs to think long and hard about who he picks as his running mate, a good choice will seal up the election for him. I would love to see him pick Richardson but I don't think he would do it.

Radar 03-24-2008 01:02 PM

My opinion is the best person Obama could pick as a VP would be John Edwards. If not him, than Al Gore. :)

Clodfobble 03-24-2008 02:37 PM

Why wouldn't you want him to pick a staunch libertarian? After all, there's no way he can lose the election to McCain no matter who he chooses, right?

Griff 03-24-2008 02:40 PM

OBAMA/PAUL
2008

Shawnee123 03-24-2008 03:03 PM

I know that song:

Obamapaul
Do do do do do
obamopaul
do do do do
obamapaul
do do do do do do do do do do do do do doo do doo doo doo doo doo doo

lookout123 03-24-2008 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Clodfobble (Post 441251)
Why wouldn't you want him to pick a staunch libertarian? After all, there's no way he can lose the election to McCain no matter who he chooses, right?

Anyone who thinks otherwise is stupid and a moron. and they probably smell bad too.

I don't have time to come back and post later so I'll just make sure you know my statement is true here and now.

Anyone who thinks otherwise is stupid and a moron. and they probably smell bad too.

Anyone who thinks otherwise is stupid and a moron. and they probably smell bad too.

HA! It's repeated AND in bold. You can't get truer than that.

Radar 03-24-2008 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Clodfobble (Post 441251)
Why wouldn't you want him to pick a staunch libertarian? After all, there's no way he can lose the election to McCain no matter who he chooses, right?

I wasn't aware there were any staunch libertarians in the Democratic Party.

Clodfobble 03-24-2008 03:39 PM

I wasn't aware he was restricted by law to pick a Democrat.

Radar 03-24-2008 03:47 PM

He's restricted by law and the bylaws of his political party to pick a Democrat. It is the Democratic Party ticket.

Cicero 03-24-2008 04:34 PM

You guys aren't actually living in Richardson's state. You know not what you are saying!!

Please, god no...he's a flaming idiot...please don't do this. Merc. Please....have merc.y on us all?
:)
He makes bush look smart..K? There is no way a decision should be left in the hands of Richardson....

TheMercenary 03-24-2008 04:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cicero (Post 441288)
You guys aren't actually living in Richardson's state. You know not what you are saying!!

Please, god no...he's a flaming idiot...please don't do this. Merc. Please....have merc.y on us all?
:)
He makes bush look smart..K? There is no way a decision should be left in the hands of Richardson....

Well he talks a good talk. And any Gov who is willing to send troops down to shut the border from the illegals pouring across can't be half bad. Now if we could just get the rest of the Gov.'s on board we might be able to control the illegal immigration problem in the US.


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