I didn't :D

He did. I just couldn't resist is all. Going a day without giving him shit would be so out of character for me. :D

I guess my main guilty pleasure is my completely reckless and incorrigible use of recreational drugs and illegal fireworks, sometimes simultaneously. The ones besides that are smoking cigarettes, and enjoying a pint of Guinness every now and then.

You're my kind of guy/girl, zewb. :)

Do you say your name more like zooob or like zoo-bee?

Maybe I should feel guilty when I see a Perdy Young Thang, and think to myself "if only I was 20-something years younger", but I don't.

Or, or, how 'bout lookin' at all 'em teen tasties on the Disney Channel.

'Course can lookie, but no touchie. ;)

Oh my god I just threw up in my mouth a little.

Oh what a relief! Thanks Flint. It *is* only at the end of the jug. Sometimes as an extra special guilty pleasure, I put a couple shots of Hershey's Chocolate Syrup in the jug, replace the cap, and shake the heck out of the whole jug. Chocolate Foam!

Geez, when was the last time you watched TDC, the 50s with the original Mousekateers? Get with the program.

So yer tellin' me that when you look at Miley Cryus, Emily Osmont, Ashley Tisdale, Brenda Song, and Selena Gomez, yer not thinkin' "These young ladies will certainly be beautiful women one day." How old are you.

Might be more pertinent to consider my gender. I'm a woman with children (had the Disney channel playing in the livingroom just a few hours ago, as a matter of fact,) and when I look at Miley Cyrus I say, "That young lady is dressed like a hooker." My stepdaughter is not allowed to watch the programs you are referring to, for that very reason.

And for the record, 'will someday be beautiful women' is not the same as... ugh, it's horrific to even type it... "teen tasties."

1. Those girls are only wearing the same kind of clothes that any teenage girl wears Incidently, Miley and Emily wear jeans most of the time.

2. I'm mostly noticing the faces. Anything else does make me feel guility.

3. Ok, "teen tasties"...wrong phrase.

4. You won't let yer kid watch a kid's channel??

5. I'm not the only adult who watches the Disney Channel.

6. I don't only watch for the girls. In fact, that's a relatively small reason. I like what the shows are about.

I've got no idea who any of those people are.

Well, Wiki knows. :D

Sorry, Michael Eisner doesn't get to decide what's appropriate for my children. There are lots of things on Disney that are fine. Some things are not, usually along the lines of attitude and respect. Any character in any show that ever says "Hel-LOOoo," for example, is about half a second away from getting nixed in my house.

I believe that you actually enjoy the pre-teen shows on Disney, and that's fine, you're welcome to like them. It's phrases like "lookin' at all 'em teen tasties" you might want to avoid, that's all.

Drax, I'm in my 40's and don't care who they are either. They are children and are never, in my never humble opinion, to be looked at that way.

Ok, but imagne what they could look like closer to your own age.

15-18 is pre-teen?

BTW, after seeing your kid's photo in your profile, I can understand your position on this? Do you at least let her watch Playhouse Disney? I understand it's on TDC every morning?

Miley Cyrus is 14.

15-18 is the age of the actors... the shows (i.e., the plot lines, the part you say you enjoy) are aimed at 8-12 year olds.

The picture in my profile is me when I was about 3 years old. My stepdaughter is 9.

That article was written a month before her 15th birthday.

I still understand your position.

Are we done yet?

I'm a guy, and it's pronounced "zoob."

http://img227.imageshack.us/img227/2050/heaven2yi6.jpg

This picture I took the other night contains many of the things that make me happy. That's a live artillery round, by the way.

Am I the only one that thinks Drax is a 12 year old girl trapped in a man's body??

I thought I read that Eisner was no longer at Disney. (Not that that's either here or there.)

Tits around their knees, vaginas six miles wide.... or dead.

Is that what you're doing, by the way? imagining them when they're late thirties?




Jail-bait is the term you are all looking for, by-the-way.


Oh and pervs is the term for the adult disney viewers. :D

Probably not, but to be fair, I think the "trapped in a man's body" should be applied as a form of mitigation rather than accusation. Listing teen-lusting as a guilty pleasure might just be an attempt to fit in with the lads rather than an admission to being a mental kiddie-fiddler.

However, Drax might "fit in better" if he were to realise that his penchant for Disney and other such juvenile things is not normal adult behaviour and no-one is going to treat it as such. If he really wants to dscuss these things seriously and not get the piss taken out of him, he might be better on a Disney-style board when he feels a teen moment coming on. Just for his own "sanity" if nothing else.



Like they say, though, you can lead a horse to water.....

If you didn't already say this:

I might not be completely creeped out Drax. Dude, I loves to look at beautiful women. I've even been known to comment that a girl will be absolutely beautiful when she grows up... but watching the disney channel and thinking "PYT", "teen tasties", and wishing you were younger is not just admiring beauty. Those are kids dude. It's creepy. Get a new hobby.

no thanks, not interested.

But my first attraction was to 13 year old girls, so why exactly should I not like them anymore? Social mores? Because it's inappropriate? Because it makes you feel icky?

Just because I've reached the age where 13 or 33, it's just not worth the bullshit, doesn't mean I can't appreciate their appeal.

but doesn't your attraction shift as you age? mine totally does...

I look at Milfs now....

I remember going into 10th grade....wow....the girls ALL had boobs. how awesome. And then college....they were women....curvy...and high school girls seemed ...not as sexy?

and now I look at an 18 yr old on some porn site, and it always occurs to me that her parents would die if they saw this....

I like a 30-38 yr old woman now..... a dirty one...or two. ;)

here's something funny you can do:

when you see a hot mom and her kid...point her out to your buddy and ask him if he would hit that. when he assents, ask him if he'd hit the mom, too.

Not so much shift, as expand. Continually adding appreciation of new groups... types, shapes, special attributes, and of course talents.

My 13 year old was a dead ringer for Annette Funicello, not some skinny waif that happen to reach puberty.

I think moreso as you mature than age. Although normally the two happen concurrently, but not always.

Or are you just adjusting your expectations to reality and availability?

Generally sex involves more than rutting, and as you mature your want to interact with someone you can connect with mentally and emotionally.

But I'm not talking about looking at a person as someone to connect with,
I'm talking about looking at someone, and appreciating their beauty and sexuality.

Bruce, I absolutely agree with you that it is normal to admire the beauty in women of all ages. There is a sea of difference between thinking, "Hey, that teenage star is a real looker" when you come across them on tv or in print and choosing to sit down in front of the tv and watch the disney channel so you can watch the "teenie tasties". Completely different.

But, but, but, love the one you're with. ;)

Turning up the thermostat instead of getting my hat and sweater and socks and blanket....

I wonder if the difference is having kids? When you have kids, you suddenly view them as items to protect rather than lust after?

i know for sure that if i were ten or twenty years older a lot of the girls (and guys) i find attractive would just be, kinda creepy. And conversely, a lot of the men and ladies you old farts are on about are just kinda old for me. I figure, its either environmental (one is mostly surrounded by people close to one's age so that's what one likes), or just a biological predisposition to wanna mate with those of the roughly same age or generation.

that said, i concur, drax is a creep.

The thing is, I totally understand what his deal is. The circumstances of his life have left him in a position of being very immature for his age. He is, for all intents and purposes of mental attraction, the same age as these girls. It actually makes more sense for him to be attracted to them, rather than women his age. But unlike a 15-year-old boy, he has an extra 20-odd years of sexual frustration hanging off him, which is what changes it from American-Pie-funny-because-it's-awkward-desperation into creepy-ass-pedophile-desperation.

I "get" to watch these shows all the time (my son loves them)... I compare it to this generation's version of Happy Days. I wonder what my parents thought when Fonzie had a date with the Brezinsky Triplets?? The girls are cute. The plots are beyond lame. Yawn.

It depends on what you mean by "lust after." (Like Jimmy Carter, I have lusted after women in my heart.) I can think, "wow, she looks really nice." That doesn't mean, "wow, I'd like to hit that." That may seem like a subtle distinction, but it's a distinction nonetheless.

Teenagers will always dress to shock--whatever it takes to "shock" in a particular generation. What I find repulsive is not the fashions on these shows, it's the way those fashions have been co-opted for profit by the mega-corporations that produce and air the TV shows. I'm more concerned about how to deal with the consumeristic impulses of the predominate culture than with the fashions. (Though I'm not a fan of many of the fashions.)

Oh good Lord. Now, I regretting my choice of words there. :D

This is all bullshit, speculating the reasoning behind the choice of the phrase "teenie tasties".
Just why do you think those girls were chosen for the roles they play? Because they would be attractive to their target audience, methinks, because they are "teenie tasties". Does acknowledging that make me a pedophile?

Their target audience is my 7 year old daughter. She doesn't call them teenie tasties.

Damn. I could've used that argument when ya'll were bashin' for posting all 'ose pix.

Be glad she doesn't.

'ose?

nose?

nose picks?

those.