If I answer the questions with what I really think and feel (remember I have unusual ideas about eating and other things based on being raised on a farm and intimate knowledge about how humans think having studied human thought processes though an advanced degree in acting... I don't go through the same steps as most to reach an end as many) insead of what I know the tests are geared to see as "intelligent".
Some of the simpler questions like "how does one get eggs" for me can be "go into the back yard", I know that will skew the score low, so I change the answer.
I also answer questions very intellectually because I take certain steps logically that most take emotion into account... that is not a sign of intelligence. It has to do with abuse, rape and other things that have happened to me. The test "sees" this as intelligence, it is not, not by a long shot.
I have learned tricks to overcome my dyslexia, I am still just as dyslexic and have just as many problems with numbers and spelling as others and with practical application have a hard time and have to study much more than most, but can test my ass off. Again, not intelligence, I just know how to play the game.
This is why the Mensa meetings disgusted me so much, people who think a skill-set made them something/someone special are pathetic little animals.
I have known people with almost no education, who had very few social skills, some who were mentally disabled in some areas... but had TRUE wisdom that I, to this day, work toward and try to emulate... that I envy.
Again, those tests are a game, set up by people with little egos who want to separate people who are like them so they can say "see, I am better than others" and they are for NOTHING else and serve NO OTHER purpose.

so....you're like Ginger on Gilligan's Island? Having acted the role of genius, you are now a genius too? or did you stay in a Holiday Inn Express last night.


nigga please

I realize I am going to walk right into the fire here, but my stomach hurts from laughing so hard, and I can't resist any longer...

http://www.iqcomparisonsite.com/Imag...CurveSmall.gif

just for perspective's sake, of course. link to more info

There is no IQ test that asks a question like "how does one get eggs"

There is no IQ test that you can "game" by figuring out what the test is looking for other than correct answers.

Here are some sample IQ test questions that are pretty representative of the several actual psychologist-proctored tests I've taken.

http://www.mensa.org/workout2.php

http://www.iqtestforfree.com/

A sample question would be
You can't game a question like that. You can only be right or wrong.

Inaccurately describing a gamey sort of test as an "IQ test" is a particularly ironic form of failure, and we all hope you take it in good humor. That's why I can't help but post the fail kitty.

http://cellar.org/2007/failkitty.jpg

Cite.

The egg example was and example of a situational question.
Shame someone could not figure that out, and the IQ tests for younger people do use practical situations to test responses.
I really could care less if you believe what my test scores have been... as I have stated numerous times they are fake to begin with, so I do not feel they are an accurate representation of my intelligence.
It is very telling how much so many of you are focusing on that one thing.

awwwwww, poor kitty!

What in the world are you asking him to cite? He did cite evidence of typical IQ test questions.

Incidentally, I had an IQ test administered to me around the age of 6, because my neighbor was a child psych major and needed someone to practice on for a class assignment. There were no situational questions. There were "make this shape" tangrams, and "define this made up word" to see if you understood the suffixes of parts of speech yet...

On the other hand, I also took a test to see if I would be allowed into school early, and it did have situational questions. One was, "What do you need to make a peanut butter and jelly sandwich?", and my mother was pissed because they said my answer of "a plate and two knives" was wrong ("bread, peanut butter, and jelly" was correct.) But that was't an IQ test. It was just a test made by the school to determine if I was ready for kindergarten. That test also required me to try to catch a ball that was thrown towards me (which, incidentally, I failed to do.)

That he states that I brag about my education.
I quoted it but the internal quote did not show-up.
I have stated my education, never as a brag. If someone chose to take a statement a certain way, that is on them.

Wikipedia on IQ
Wikipedia lists the WAIS subtests:

Verbal Subtests

Information Degree of general information acquired from culture (e.g. Who is the president of Russia?)
Comprehension Ability to deal with abstract social conventions, rules and expressions (e.g. What does "Kill 2 birds with 1 stone" metaphorically mean?)
Arithmetic Concentration while manipulating mental mathematical problems (e.g. How many 45c. stamps can you buy for a dollar?)
Similarities Abstract verbal reasoning (e.g. In what way are an apple and a pear alike?)
Vocabulary The degree to which one has learned, been able to comprehend and verbally express vocabulary (e.g. What is a guitar?)
Digit span attention/concentration (e.g. Digits forward: 123, Digits backward 321.)
Letter-Number Sequencing attention and working memory (e.g. Given Q1B3J2, place the numbers in numerical order and then the letters in alphabetical order)

Performance Subtests

Picture Completion Ability to quickly perceive visual details
Digit Symbol - Coding Visual-motor coordination, motor and mental speed
Block Design Spatial perception, visual abstract processing & problem solving
Matrix Reasoning Nonverbal abstract problem solving, inductive reasoning, spatial reasoning
Picture Arrangement Logical/sequential reasoning, social insight
Symbol Search Visual perception, speed
Object Assembly Visual analysis, synthesis, and construction

Optional post-tests include Digit Symbol - Incidental Learning and Digit Symbol - Free Recall.Real IQ tests are not situational or subjective.

Did you... did you game a child's test, Rob?

It certainly wasn't the Wechsler Preschool and Primary Scale of Intelligence

Hey I could give a shit about your actual score. You'll notice I haven't posted any of mine.

I haven't voted, or posted, except, I'm posting now. Fortunately there are no IQ tests for installing carpet, Surprise!! Any way I just wanted to ask what the answer is, to the three letters that change the word.

Day.

tea


But that only works if you're a Brit :)

Nor do I, the tests I have been given from MENSA, at schools and college, form psychiatrists and psychologists all seemed different... of course they all happened pretty far apart.
The reason I gave a score, was to illustrate how ridiculous the tests are in my opinion.
What I find to be very funny is that people focused on the number, even though I was saying that I feel it is wrong.
Again, people should not compare themselves to others, especially when it comes to something as fake as an IQ test.
What is really telling is that the scoring systems were different for every test, so the number may not mean what some think it does.
Though I have been tested at, or above, genius, consistantly... and AGAIN state that I am NOT a genius, I just test that way. The tests are a joke.
Yes, I gamed a child's test, kids are not stupid they know what people want to hear and tell it to them consistently. I was called out for it more than once.

Tealight?

It's a kind of small candle.

But I think tea time and tea break are redundant.

I thought the word was "sex."

I find it interesting that so many people here claim to have had their IQ tested.

What I think would be more interesting is to know if those tests were formal IQ tests or not.

In Australia, it's very rare for someone to be formally tested because IQ testing is considered to be generally unrepresentative of a persons actual intelligence. That is to say, you might score well, but be totally useless in other situations. Education and vocational training is tending to follow gardiner's theory of multiple intelligences which is probably a lot more realistic in every day situations.

Most kids that are formally IQ tested tend to be tested because they have learning issues. IQ tests are also used to determine disorders such as aspergers and autism. They're not used to predict how many A's a kid is going to get on their next test.

Tea lights are those little candles in a metal cup.

Exsqueeze me? Nothing redundant about a tea break. Certainly nothing redundant about tea time. Case in point, a text conversation this very afternoon:

me: you wanna do friday drinks? tea time at the Hairy Lemon. I'll scurry up the puzzlers

friend: ok but J not there til later. 5.30 at the lemon.

See? tea time on this occasion was half five.

Any time is tea time!

Speaking of tea, I hosted a high tea at my place last Saturday complete with cucumber sandwiches.

It went over very well with the girls.

Did you cut the crusts off?

Of course! I also had little asparagus roll ups with snow pea sprouts and hollandaise sauce. I had little cakes and chocolates and about 6 different types of tea to choose from. I even had cake stands!

God I'm hungry.

Yeah me too. I just put some left over lasagne in the microwave. :)

Cucumbers have crusts?

Long Island Ice Tea is about the closest I get to a tea party in Texas, girls. Well, there's Sweet Tea, too . . .

And, BTW Aliantha: I :heartpump lerts!

GABBLY IS DOWN THERE (points down there )

What, yours don't?

Do you want a chat Jimbo?

I might be wrong. Cucumber's a vegetable, and I don't fraternize with vegetables.

Thank you for the answers. I got hung up trying different prefixes, a 3 letter word didn't even occur to me. I usually do good playing Jeopardy. I like to shout out the answers, if it's on, in the house I'm working in. We could have some sort of Jeopardy tournament here to see who is the top dog.

But "three-letter word" was in the instructions. You score zero for reading comprehension!! :)

I was tested twice. The first time for admittance into a gifted school/program in 3rd grade. I was accepted but didn't attend. The second time I was tested because I had filed for disability when I was REALLY, really sick, and when I got better the govt. provided career counseling and a formal IQ test was part of the evaluation.

I must be a genius then, Einstein, or some other famous, really smart guy was like that.

Do they?? Some of those guys have impressive spare tires on them.

hey look what Neatorama recently posted.

http://neatorama.cachefly.net/images...ccupations.jpg

That's a very interesting graph Rex.

Interesting. It's a little hard to tell, but it looks like salesmen and security guards (i.e. "protection services excluding policemen") have the biggest range, while clerical workers and doctors have the smallest range. So feel free to stereotype your secretary, but maybe drop some literary references around your building's security guard to find out if he's one of the smart ones.

If you're really interested in that graph Rex posted, here's a 92 page pdf that explains it.

where are all the 170's people working?

They're "too smart" to actually work.

see....i should have known that. :smack:

They're too busy hating everyone else.

I'm too smart to work.....

There are a ton of factors that make an IQ test unfair and inconsistent. There's no way to judge a person's complete intelligence.

You could hang out with them on a message board for a few weeks. It's not very efficient, I know. I'm pretty sure I could put the more active users in order from smartest down and be fairly accurate, though.

I'll agree with you there; talking to someone can give you a much better understanding of someone's brain than just a test. But you'll still never know how smart someone really is. I've been going to school with this kid for four years, and thought he was an alright person, but a little dim. Suddenly he's doing well enough to skip a grade; he'll be graduating high school this year as a junior.

overacheiving does not equate to intelligence. has he gotten smart all of the sudden, or just working really hard?

I think he was quietly working hard for a long time. I talked to him almost everyday for four years and thought he was gonna have a tough time with school. And he even dropped out of the IB (International Baccalaureate) program last year to regular school. And all the sudden he beats all of us IB kids by a year.

Personally, I think the IQ or any personality test shouldn't be a be a main determinant for any job since someone with a lower IQ can easily outperform someone with a higher IQ if they know what they are doing and have common sense.

In football for example, they don't determine who is going to be on the team just from forty times or how much someone can bench, they determine that from who performs best on the field and it should be the same way for any job. Being extremely fast helps a receiver a lot but I guarantee that 7 out of 10 times, the fastest guy will not be the best just like I bet the person with the highest IQ will rarely be the best person for a job. If they are not smart enough to make the cut they will naturally be left behind just like an unathletic person will be left behind at football.

The IQ or whatever tests can be good to weed out some people but it should never have the final say.

Any monkey can graduate early from high school if they want to. The requirements are actually surprisingly low. IB is for kids who actually want to learn something above and beyond the curriculum. More likely your friend just has overpowering social issues that make him want to get out as soon as possible.

One of the classes I used to help out in for Community College was an entry class, humanities.
Occasionally I would get kids who could not read... that was one thing, but every now and again I would get those who could not communicate at all.
How those in their previous schools passed them from class to class, year to year is unconscionable.

I don't think so -- IQ isn't a really reliable predictor of success. I have a high IQ, for instance, but I suck at office work and a lot of other practical things because I don't have a lot of mental discipline, and my mind wanders.