Really - use a condom - one of you is special enough.


j/k

LOL v. sharp.

Oh, ouch.

Cock.



actually though I agree. I hate kids; I definitely dont want one of my own.
My 18th birthday present to myself is going to be a vasectomy.

I doubt you'll find a reputable surgeon willing to perform that operation for you.

Ibram, Ali's right. If you can find a surgeon willing to perform that operation you are putting yourself into the hands of someone who shouldn't be trusted.

Dude, you know I was just kidding......


.....right?

Really?
How so?

I think they mean because he's so young, most reputable surgeons will not perform that procedure (the theory being they will probably change their mind) on a very young adult. One who is willing to do so might not be the most trustworthy physician.

Anyway, there is a more important aspect: condoms protect you from AIDS. A vasectomy does not.

Ummm- you are be able to enlist and kill, smoke, drive, enhance your boobs, and pierce your penis 15 times on or before 18, but you should not become personally responsible over your sexual life?
Also old enough to decide you'd like to spend a lot of money on getting an education and choose a career path- but being sure and safe in your sex practices is too risky?

Ibram- you have my support. It's stuff like this that makes me proud of your generation.

And I already told you to wear a condom in this thread. (in case anyone thought I was exculding condoms)

just a note--reputable practitioners will neither enhance a person's boobs, nor pierce the genitals of a minor; that is, before age 18. I think they would also discourage an 18-year old from getting a vasectomy--way too young, IMO.

When I wanted to get a vasectomy, the first doctor I went to wanted my wife to sign a consent form. I was in my late 30's and he wanted my wife's permission for a medical procedure being performed on me! I'm still amazed by that. I went to a different doctor. Idiot.

I think it's perfect timing for a vasectomy. At 18 ideally, you could choose a course of study, and follow it all the way through before you have to worry about getting someone pregnant. But that's only if you trust an 18 year old to set plans and follow through.

Not only that....it's easier to reverse than a lot of things 18 year olds do to themselves.

You can still reproduce after a vasectomy... you just won't do it by accident. Condoms are still a good idea if you can't vouch for the... safety of your partner, but I'm sticking by my intent to get a vasectomy.

I hate kids. I absolutely do not want to deal with any. A vasectomy fixes that problem, and if I change my mind, it's a simple process to extract some.

just be aware that your viewpoint on children may change, if you meet the right person. Mine did.

I still am not a big "kid" person--except for my own, but I'm ever so glad I had them.

We did not want kids until we were together for 13 years.

Not exactly - I have been looking into it and its actually rather complex and there is NO definitive outcome.
get it ...outcome!! :eyebrow:

They wont give anyone surgeries to prevent conception unless they've

a) had kids and know they wont want any more.
b) have consulted with the spouse or any other interested parties and
c) unless the person is of an appropriately mature age.

This is a fact. Go look it up before you argue.

If Ibram wants to go ahead and do it, good on him. I'm simply stating a fact.

Da-dum tch.

Just because it's extremely unlikely that they'll do the surgery... doesnt mean i don't want it done.

I never said you don't, or shouldn't. I just presented you with a few facts. That's all.

I have no influence over you anyway, so what would my opinion matter? Whatever it happens to be on this one.

I've known from a very early age (maybe not at 15, but not long after) that I didn't want to have kids...and that hasn't really ever changed. Not to say that I haven't considered it here and there along the way. But ultimately, it's a big no for me.

Ib, take it or leave it, but I suggest you keep your options open for a while, and just be as careful as you can possibly be.

Honestly, I had definitely decided I didn't want any more kids. Had even spoken to my doc about getting my tubes tied.

Then I met Dazza and everything changed.

Now we can't get preggers anyway. I'm thinking I might as well have had the op. :(

Y'know it's funny. When I was younger I always thought that my future would include kids...would be able to imagine havin them around and stuff...but never wanted them *now*. I tried to want them. My partner wanted kids, and like I said, I had thought I wanted them. But like, first off I started to realise that I seriously didn't want to co-parent with him (and that became really not wanting to co-parent) but I hadn't yet give n up the idea I might, someday.

It's funny, I was scared that I would get to a time when I couldn't have kids and think, shit...blew that good and proper. But, fear of regret is a shitty reason to have kids no? *chuckles* It's probably only really the last 6 months that I've reconciled with myself, that actually...I do not want children. If I accidentally got preggers I'd deal with it and might even keep it, but having kids is not part of my future plans. Thing is...underneath it all, I think I always kind of knew it wasn't my scene, probably from the same age as you, blue.

That's tough Ali. That's really tough.

Well it really sucks, but it's a good reason to have plenty of sex, so that's a plus. It's been good for our relationship as opposed to how it can often isolate people within relationships.

You can't get mad at someone you just made love with, and when you get your period and are feeling all depressed, it's nice to have someone to cry with.

Aw, now that isn't true, dearie. Most of you here on the cellar have a lot of influence on me... And not even all bad influence, either!

Ibram, this is exactly why a legitimate doctor won't perform the procedure on you. You are uninformed.

It's extremely rare, difficult, and expensive to extract sperm from a testicle and use it for artificial insemination or in vitro fertilization. The other option, a vasectomy reversal, is possible, but the longer you wait after the vasectomy was performed, the less likely it is to work, because the unused vas slowly seals itself shut permanently like a pierced ear with no earring in it. A vasectomy reversal is also expensive. Health insurance doesn't typically cover these elective surgeries.

Vasectomies should always be treated as a permanent birth control solution.

Wanting it done doesn't make it the right thing for you to do either. You're right there. You are years away from finding who/what you are and it's way too early to be making decisions like this.