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MaggieL 08-09-2006 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Flint
But seriously, if you don't percieve a bias in your favorite news source it just means they share the same bias as you.

I percieve biases in all my news sources. That's why I have a diverse set.

Flint 08-09-2006 11:58 AM

I honestly believe that if anything important is happening in the world, there will be a debate about it on the internet.

Sundae 08-09-2006 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Flint
I honestly believe that if anything important is happening in the world, there will be a debate about it on the internet.

But even "important" is subject to bias. I broke my flip-flop yesterday and had to walk home with an elastic band round my foot to keep it on. Incredibly important to me, but not picked up by any photography agency. I guess they're all busy at the moment.

Flint 08-09-2006 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Sundae Girl
But even "important" is subject to bias. I broke my flip-flop yesterday and had to walk home with an elastic band round my foot to keep it on.

If you started a thread about that, and it stuck around and got alot of responses, and generated alot of attention, it would have been deemed "important" via democratic process.

Undertoad 08-09-2006 12:07 PM

Totally clean dust-free toys are added to scenes of destruction for dramatic effect

Al Jazzera video proves that the tire fire mentioned above was caused by a misfired Hezbollah missile

glatt 08-09-2006 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Sundae Girl
But even "important" is subject to bias. I broke my flip-flop yesterday and had to walk home with an elastic band round my foot to keep it on. Incredibly important to me, but not picked up by any photography agency. I guess they're all busy at the moment.

I interviewed a woman on Monday for a job opening we had. She broke her shoe on the way to the interview. So after the interview, I got her a roll of packing tape and some scissors for her to try to fix the thing well enough to get home.

I'm just saying, it could be worse.

(Oh, and she didn't get the job.)

Sundae 08-09-2006 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Flint
If you started a thread about that, and it stuck around and got alot of responses, and generated alot of attention, it would have been deemed "important" via democratic process.

Tis true I admit - look at the whale penii!

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Originally Posted by glatt
I'm just saying, it could be worse.

(Oh, and she didn't get the job.)

Yup, she had a worse day than me! Although it could be a turning point in her life - you could open a newspaper one day and see a totally new style of packing tape shoe designed by this woman...!

Undertoad 08-09-2006 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Sundae Girl
But even "important" is subject to bias. I broke my flip-flop yesterday and had to walk home with an elastic band round my foot to keep it on. Incredibly important to me, but not picked up by any photography agency. I guess they're all busy at the moment.

http://cellar.org/2006/flipflopband.jpg

IDF activity causes footwear failure

Cellar user Sundae Girl experienced footwear failure on Tuesday
as she came under mortar fire from IDF tanks. She was only
able to return to her Midlands home by improvising a quick fix.
Experts say poor shoes are a major cause of stress in war zones.

Adnan Hajj/Reuters

glatt 08-09-2006 12:28 PM

Wow, Sundae, you feet are a bit more masculine than I pictured. No offense intended.

Ibby 08-09-2006 12:30 PM

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NONONO, UT, youve got it all wrong! I found Hajj's real picture...

Sundae 08-09-2006 12:43 PM

The scary thing was it was a red rubber band - only used by the Post Office in this country but pinched from the postroom by me. My toenails are purple at the moment though. Nail varnish, not bruising I hasten to add.

Trilby 08-09-2006 01:00 PM

This is all very delicious! Thanks for the laughs!

Seriously, though, I always knew my paranoia would some day pay off.

xoxoxoBruce 08-10-2006 10:34 PM

Obviously a fasho-Islamic plot, the USPS also uses red elastic bands. :D

note ~ I usually say rubber bands but when reporting terrorist activities accuracy is important... just ask Homeland Security.

Undertoad 08-10-2006 10:39 PM

And I knew that you knew that, because you gave me that band, in a set of them, and you told me how they came to be in your possession :D And now the cycle is complete :D

tjauh 08-11-2006 05:25 AM

Some more Picture
 
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These are really nice pictures...

and Please tell me if they are photoshoped or not ....


The attached Zipped file contains a power Point Presentation of all the images.


Regards

tjauh 08-11-2006 05:37 AM

Check this Report and tell me were are the Fraudulant photos.....


http://www.informationclearinghouse....ticle14258.htm

tjauh 08-11-2006 05:39 AM

Checkout this blog...

http://cellar.org/showthread.php?t=1...ghlight=beirut

glatt 08-11-2006 08:18 AM

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Originally Posted by tjauh
The attached Zipped file contains a power Point Presentation of all the images.

You've got to be joking. Do you actually think anyone is going to unzip a file to see a powerpoint presentation on dead kids in rubble?

mlandman 08-11-2006 10:48 AM

TJAUH
 
COME NOW.

a file TITLED: "aggressionagainstlebanon" --- spew your lies elsewhere.

Hezbollah grabs IDF soldiers, starts a calculated war that it had prepared for and launches 100s of MISSILES to Israel.

Israel intentionally sends leaflets directing civilians where to go and targets Hezbollah bases, WHICH HAVE BEEN DOCUMENTED THAT HEZBOLLAH USES CIVILANS AS SHIELDS EVERY CHANCE THEY GET.

Civilian deaths have happened on both sides, yes. Most of us know which side tries to avoid them, and which side doesn't give a flying F, as long as they kill as many jews as possible. So, I think you can take your powerpoint presentation called "agression AGAINST LEBANON", which is what the Hezbollah supporters would WANT you to believe, and shove it!

barefoot serpent 08-11-2006 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by mlandman
/snip/Israel intentionally sends leaflets directing civilians where to go and targets Hezbollah bases/snip/

a leaflet and the translation can be found here

xoxoxoBruce 08-11-2006 10:53 PM

I guess we're now officially part of the Hezbollah "Military Media" propaganda network.

UT, wear your jammies to bed tonight in case Homeland Security or another of those pesky organizations comes calling. :unsure:

Elspode 08-12-2006 01:19 AM

Hell with that, UT...let 'em see your wicked willy waving wild in the wind.

xoxoxoBruce 08-12-2006 01:24 AM

Uh, Elspode....it's kind of chilly here tonight. :lol:

dar512 08-14-2006 08:46 AM

A funny jab at the Beirut picture here.

DanaC 08-15-2006 04:58 AM

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only used by the Post Office in this country but pinched from the postroom by me.
Isn't that considered treasonous?

Sundae 08-15-2006 06:40 AM

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Originally Posted by DanaC
Isn't that considered treasonous?

You can now contact me at 1, The Tower, London. Well until next week anyway. After that contact my parents re where to send the flowers....

MaggieL 08-15-2006 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce
I guess we're now officially part of the Hezbollah "Military Media" propaganda network.

But that's the great thing about being in Hezbollah, when it's convenient you suddenly become a civilian again.

xoxoxoBruce 08-15-2006 07:36 PM

Yeah, every payday...poof...you're a civilian. ;)

MaggieL 08-15-2006 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce
Yeah, every payday...poof...you're a civilian.

There's all kinds of compensation. Like beleiving you're doing the Will of Allah. Even if you call it something else.

Spexxvet 08-16-2006 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by MaggieL
There's all kinds of compensation. Like beleiving you're doing the Will of Allah. Even if you call it something else.

Or Jesus/God

MaggieL 08-16-2006 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Spexxvet
Or Jesus/God

Indeed.

Undertoad 11-15-2006 06:22 AM

Well the video is no longer available, but a few days ago the actual photographer of the original US News cover shot came forward on Lightstalkers, a professional news photographers site. Bruno Stevens explained the details behind this shot:

http://cellar.org/2006/brunostevens1.jpg

This is the shot that made the US News cover.

http://cellar.org/2006/usnewscover.jpg

Stevens submitted the shot with the caption:
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Kfar Chima, near Beirut, July 17, 2006. An Israeli Air Force F16 has alledgedly been shot down while bombing a group of Hezbollah owned trucks, at least one of these trucks contained a medium range ground to ground missile launcher.
Maybe the meaning of "allegedly" got lost because he misspelled it. After returning to the site and gathering more details, he then submitted a more complete caption:
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Kfar Chima, near Beirut, July 17, 2006. The Israeli Air Force bombed a group of Hezbollah chartered trucks parked on the back of large Lebanese Army barracks, at least one of these trucks contained a medium range ground to ground missile launcher, at least one missile was hit, misfiring high into the sky before falling down and starting a huge fire in the barracks’ parking lot.
This correlates with what people figured out from the Al Jazzera video. Stevens also shot the now-dead missile launcher inside the targeted truck:

http://cellar.org/2006/brunostevens2.jpg

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This is a very important piece of evidence showing probable collusion between Hezbollah and the Lebanese Army, there is little doubt that the Lebanese Army was aware of the presence of at least one missile launcher and at least one large missile on their parking lot. The size of the launcher, destroyed a couple of days later from the ground by an unknown party suggest missiles 10 to 14 meters long.
A few days after he submitted all of the above, the top pic appeared in Time, and as is the usual practice, editors re-wrote Stevens' caption.
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The wreckage of a downed Israeli jet that was targeting Hizballah trucks billows smoke behind a Hizballah gunman in Kfar Chima, near Beirut. Jet fuel set the surrounding area ablaze.
Got that? The fine detail from the photographer who was actually there, was discarded, in favor of a suitable narrative. Hizballah shot the jet down. Missile launching trucks became simple trucks. A legitimate military target was whitewashed out, the photo of the evidence is not reprinted. The ruin was the result of Israeli actions and not a Hezb misfire as they probably tried to launch at the last minute and fucked up.

Now people are calling Stevens anti-semitic because they don't know he didn't write that caption. Seems to me he did good work documenting what happened and revisiting the location several times to collect facts. Too bad the facts became a casualty.
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There were 6 to 8 large articulated trucks parked there, making it a very legitimate target for the Israeli Air Force, quite far away from civilian houses. Guilad, I can’t see why showing and explaining this makes me antisemitic or even anti-Israeli. Quite, quite, the contrary in fact.

SPUCK 11-16-2006 05:57 AM

Most interesting!


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