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richlevy 08-26-2006 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Clodfobble
It's a slow morning for me, so I can't tell if you already know this and were just teasing me... but I was using "hawt" as the mocking internet slang term for sexy, as one would exclaim when, say, receiving the latest issue of Maxim. "Teh new hawtness" is also a farkism.

Nope. It's new to me. I have obviously been treading in the backwaters of the Internet.

rkzenrage 08-27-2006 12:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Stormieweather
Anyone that thinks this is 'disgusting' or a 'turn on' has some personal issues that have nothing to do with feeding a baby.
I find it feminine and, therefore, attractive.
But, a 'turn-on' would definitely be pushing it.
It is the reason they are there, a beautiful thing and there should be no shame in it nor reason to hide it.
If someone becomes uncomfortable or aroused by it to the point of destraction... they need to seek professional help.

richlevy 09-02-2006 05:43 PM

NY Time Article
 
The New York Times has this article. Summary: Rich and middle-class working women have an easier time breastfeeding than hourly workers.

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When a new mother returns to Starbucks’ corporate headquarters in Seattle after maternity leave, she learns what is behind the doors mysteriously marked “Lactation Room.”

Whenever she likes, she can slip away from her desk and behind those doors, sit in a plush recliner and behind curtains, and leaf through InStyle magazine as she holds a company-supplied pump to her chest, depositing her breast milk in bottles to be toted home later.
But if the mothers who staff the chain’s counters want to do the same, they must barricade themselves in small restrooms intended for customers, counting the minutes left in their breaks.
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“I feel like I had to choose between feeding my baby the best food and earning a living,” said Jennifer Munoz, a former cashier at Resorts Atlantic City Casino who said she faced obstacles that included irregular breaks and a refrigerator behind a locked door. She said she often dumped her milk into the toilet, knowing that if she did not pump every few hours, her milk supply would soon dwindle.
The casino denies discouraging Ms. Munoz from pumping. “We have policies and procedures in place to accommodate the needs of all of our employees,” Brian Cahill, a Resorts spokesman, said.
This two class system brought to you by The Man.:(

So, it becomes necessary to appeal the that more reliable motive for businesses, greed.
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Public health authorities, alarmed at the gap between the breast-feeding haves and have-nots, are now trying to convince businesses that supporting the practice is a sound investment. “The Business Case for Breastfeeding,” an upcoming campaign by the Department of Health and Human Services, will emphasize recent findings that breast-feeding reduces absenteeism and pediatrician bills.

9th Engineer 09-03-2006 11:18 AM

how long are we talking about per-pumping session? If it's 15-20 min every few hours then I can guess why it's not encouraged right now.

The two-tiered breastfeeding system?? Oh please. Guess what world? Cashiers don't get as many perks as the executives do, does this shatter your world? Get out more.

xoxoxoBruce 09-03-2006 11:36 AM

I disagree...not two tiered but multi-tiered.
Big companies will have corporate policy plus individual bosses within the organization will flex some. Small companies will go with the personal feelings of the boss tempered by his relationship with the employee. It also depends on what kind of job the woman is expected(paid) to do. There's probably half as many tiers as there are people affected.
So I'm saying there is no standard.

But ladies, if you wish to feed or pump, probably the best way to get permission from the boss is get him involved. Let him in on the action....I mean program....yes that's it, the plan... make him part of the plan.
Hell, it could even be a team building exercise. ;)

footfootfoot 09-03-2006 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by 9th Engineer
The two-tiered breastfeeding system?? Oh please. Guess what world? Cashiers don't get as many perks as the executives do, does this shatter your world? Get out more.

The "golden rule" i.e. If you have the gold, you make the rules.

richlevy 09-04-2006 08:35 AM

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Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce
But ladies, if you wish to feed or pump, probably the best way to get permission from the boss is get him involved. Let him in on the action....I mean program....yes that's it, the plan... make him part of the plan.
Hell, it could even be a team building exercise. ;)

You sir, are a very strange man.:rolleyes:

xoxoxoBruce 09-04-2006 09:54 PM

Thank you....thank you very much. :blush:

Aliantha 09-13-2006 10:57 PM

I see no reason why any woman shouldn't feed her infant in public. However she does it is her concern. If you can't cope with it, look the other way. Anyway, I've seen some fully grown people eating in public who are definitely disgusting/obscene in the way they consume their food.

BlacKat1980 09-15-2006 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by glatt
But I can see how doing it in church or maybe at a restaurant table might cause some ruffled feathers.

Aren't churches family places? And we all eat at restaurants, why can't our babies. Like it was mentioned earlier, it's not like ladies are "whipping" them out swinging with tassles or yelling out for people to have a good old perve. It is done quietly and discreetly. If people are embarrased at seeing a baby have a meal then they should stay away from places where babies are "allowed" to.

glatt 09-15-2006 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by glatt
A little discretion, and it's fine in public.

I wish you had taken this message from my post. I'm in favor of breastfeeding, and would like more moms to be doing it for longer, and feel free to do it in public.

However, while I can imagine a discreet breastfeeding in church being just fine, I can also imagine a feeding in church being less than discreet and being distracting, taking attention away from where it belongs. You wouldn't eat a pizza in church would you? There's a time and place for everything. Also, I was imagining a fancy restaurant when I wrote that part about restaurants. It's really a moot point, because people typically don't bring babies to fancy restaurants. But I think a baby should not be fed at the table in a fancy restaurant. There is a certain atmosphere that others are expecting, and a breastfeeding baby doesn't fit in with that expectation. Unhealthy food aside, a mom breastfeeding in McDonalds would be just fine.

With a minimal amount of discretion, breastfeeding in public is just fine, and I support it.

BlacKat1980 09-15-2006 12:43 PM

If people are distracted from the sight/sound of a baby feeding while in church then they probably weren't really concentrating in the first place. Babies decide when they are hungry, which is more distracting-a screaming hungry child or a woman with a baby attached to her breast for twenty minutes? I know of a few churches in my area that actually have a room where they can see and hear the whole service from and can sit with babies/children who might be noisy or causing distraction (because lets face it, kids hate sitting quietly for an hour or more!). Why should mums have to miss out on socialisation simply because they've had a baby? Is that fair? breastfeeding isn't dirty or unhealthy, or unsanitary.

footfootfoot 09-17-2006 09:38 PM

You can't preach to a hungry congregation. Noone is interested in their soul if their belly is empty.

To infants, nursing is the only sacrament there is.

BigV 09-18-2006 09:05 AM

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Lyle Lovett
Church from Joshua Judges Ruth

I went to church last Sunday
So I could sing and pray
But something quite unusual
Happened on that day

Now church it started right on time
Just like it does without a doubt
And everything was all just fine
Except when it came time to let us out

You know the preacher he kept preaching
He told us I have one more thing to say
Children before you think of leaving
You better think about the Judgment Day

Now everyone got nervous
Because everyone was hungry too
And everyone was wondering
What was the next thing he would do

And the preacher he kept preaching
He said now I'll remind you if I may
You all better pay attention
Or I might decide to preach all day

And now everyone was getting so hungry
That the old ones started feeling ill
And the weak ones started passing out
And the young ones they could not sit still

And the preacher's voice rose higher
So I snuck up on the balcony
And I crept into the choir
And I begged them brothers, sisters, help me please

I said when I give you a signal
I said when I raise up my hand
Won't you please join with me together
And praise the Lord I have a plan

And the preacher he kept preaching
Long is the struggle, hard the fight
And I prayed, Father please forgive me
And then I stood up and with all my might
I sang

To the Lord let praises be
It's time for dinner now let's go eat
We've got some beans and some good cornbread
And I listened to what the preacher said
Now it's to the Lord let praised be
It's time for dinner now let's go eat

Yes and I did give a signal
Yes and I raised up my hands
And then joined with me the choir
Yes every woman, child, and man
They sang

To the Lord let praised be
It's time for dinner now let's go eat
We've got some beans and some good cornbread
And I've listened to what the preacher said
Now it's to the Lord let praised be
It's time for dinner now let's go eat

And the preacher he stopped preaching
And a hush the church did fill
And then a great white dove from up above
Landed on the window sill

And the dove flew down beside him
And a fork appeared right in his hand
And with everybody watching
The preacher ate that bird right there and then

And now everyone got really nervous
And the preacher he did start to glow
And as we watched in disbelief
These were the words he spoke

He said now Mama's in the kitchen
And she's been there all day
And I know she's cooking something good
So let's bow our heads and pray
And he sang

To the Lord let praises be
It's time for dinner now let's go eat
We've got some beans and some good cornbread
Now listen to what the preacher said
He said to the Lord let praised be
It's time for dinner now let's go eat

And the moral of this story
Children it is plain but true
God knows if a preacher preaches long enough
Even he'll get hungry too
And he'll sing

To the Lord let praises be
It's time for dinner now let's go eat
We've got some beans and some good cornbread
Now listen to what the preacher said
He said to the Lord let praised be
It's time for dinner now let's go eat
Amen!

mrnoodle 09-18-2006 01:34 PM

We might not be on top for whale penis anymore, but we own the internets when it comes to utilitarian boobs.

footfootfoot 09-18-2006 03:56 PM

Awesome. Whale penis and utlitarian boobs are like the park place and boardwalk of the internet.

Happy Monkey 09-18-2006 04:27 PM

Not quite. I think "penis boobs" outranks them.

Dunno about "utilitarian whale", thiough.

footfootfoot 09-18-2006 07:01 PM

Penis boobs is like having all four railroads. Utilitarian whale is marvin gardens I'm prety sure.

What's free parking?

SteveDallas 09-18-2006 07:10 PM

Erect nipples?

Peeing in the shower has to be there somewhere.

footfootfoot 09-18-2006 07:52 PM

See this new thread: #1

lumberjim 04-13-2007 05:55 PM

i am of the temporary opinion that it is unkind to keep a finance manager waiting after hours while you suckle your young. i know the little fucker has to eat and all, but c'mon. get here before we close if you're gonna pull 'em out in the showroom.

Clodfobble 04-13-2007 06:33 PM

Dude. If you can pull 'em out in the showroom, why can't you pull 'em out in the finance manager's office while paperwork continues?

lumberjim 04-13-2007 06:51 PM

in retrospect....i'm glad she didn't have them out in here. whook!

Hime 04-16-2007 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Brianna (Post 260726)
I haven't read all the posts so maybe you all know this already, but I just learned that Victoria's Secret kicked a nursing mother out of one of their dressing rooms and told her to breast feed in the bathroom! I mean, Victoria's Secret for the love of god! They turn a profit based on the tit! What hypocrites!

Disclaimer: I used to work for VS.

I strongly suspect that that was less a modesty issue and more an issue with crowding. During busy hours there can be *long* lines (queues) for those dressing rooms, and it isn't good business to let people use them for purposes that aren't related to shopping. After waiting in line long enough, a lot of those potential customers will just give up and go home empty-handed.

On the actual subject of the thread, I am pro-breastfeeding. I don't mind if guys sexualize boobs (fiance is a huge breast man, and I'm happy to have had an advantage in getting his attention!), but they aren't a sex organ, they are for feeding babies!

While I can understand why the ladies quoted are concerned about their husbands being able to check out naked boobs, I'm sure that most men are more likely to stare at the rack of a woman in a low-cut blouse, tight sweater or bathing suit than that of a busy nursing mother. Am I right, gentlemen?

Sheldonrs 04-17-2007 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Hime (Post 334082)
While I can understand why the ladies quoted are concerned about their husbands being able to check out naked boobs, I'm sure that most men are more likely to stare at the rack of a woman in a low-cut blouse, tight sweater or bathing suit than that of a busy nursing mother. Am I right, gentlemen?

Nope. I like my "women" with small tits and big cocks.

Cloud 04-17-2007 06:31 PM

yay for bewbs!

and babies!

SadistSecret 04-18-2007 07:31 AM

I'm a man, and I don't have a problem with public breastfeeding, but I'm also not gonna stare. It's not my business if a mom wants to feed her kidlet, because I'd much rather have the lady with the weird towel/blanket/whatever over her at the next table than the screaming child.

I don't have any children because I'm not ready for the screaming yet.

Hime 04-18-2007 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Sheldonrs (Post 334411)
Nope. I like my "women" with small tits and big cocks.

heh! I didn't mean that all men like boobs, just that most find a woman dressed to impress more alluring than one with 18 years of commitment clamped on. :D

Cloud 04-18-2007 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by SadistSecret (Post 334626)
II don't have any children because I'm not ready for the screaming yet.

no one is ever really prepared

monster 04-18-2007 01:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SadistSecret (Post 334626)
I'd much rather have the lady with the weird towel/blanket/whatever over her at the next table than the screaming child.


But what if she refuses to cover the child/boob with a weird towel/blanket/whatever? After all people on solid food do not have to eat undercover....

BigV 04-18-2007 02:12 PM

Bonus! Dinner *and* a show. :)

BigV 04-19-2007 10:23 AM

It's sooo good and good for you. And your baby Now that's utility!
Quote:

Study: Breast-Feeding Decreases Cancer Risk
Quote:


The new findings are particularly relevant to women who give birth after age 25 and eventually have three or more children. These women have double the risk of the aggressive and hard-to-treat hormone-negative breast cancers.

"This two-fold increased risk went away when we looked only at women who breast-fed," Ursin says. "They were no longer at increased risk of breast cancer."

The mechanism is unclear. Some experts think it's because a woman is less likely to ovulate while she's breast-feeding. The fewer times a woman ovulates, the lower her risk of breast cancer.

Whatever the reason, the bottom line is clear: Breast-feeding offers broad protection against both major types of breast cancer in women of all ages.
Like I said, Bonus!

HungLikeJesus 06-15-2007 07:45 PM

Put fresh batteries in your camera. There's going to be a show this weekend.
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An Internet chat room posting written by a South Dakota mother about her breastfeeding experience at Elitch Gardens has motivated several Colorado mothers to plan a "nurse-in" Saturday morning at the park.

kerosene 06-16-2007 03:55 PM

I remember the breastfeeding days. I think LJ or Jinx said something about the "let down" effect. That, alone was frustrating, but add a hungry baby to the mix, and it could make things fairly difficult, to say the least. Has anyone ever tried feeding a baby in an airplane bathroom? There's barely enough room to piss in those. Plus, people stand in line to use them for what they are intended, so why use that space, when there is a perfectly good seat.

Breastfeeding a baby is never something a woman should be ashamed of and the attitude some people have seems to be there to cause shame.

Yes, I was fortunate enough to have worked at a corporation that had a lactation room and provided a breast pump. I also had a job in which I could take a break every 2 hours to pump. I would have rather had some extra maternity leave so I could have been with my son to breastfeed, but such is life. Some people don't get maternity leave.

I don't really have a point, I guess. Just that breastfeeding == good. Good is not bad and shouldn't be construed that way.

I like my breasts. :)

HungLikeJesus 06-16-2007 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by case (Post 356026)
...
I like my breasts. :)

Sharing's nice!

jinx 08-08-2010 12:08 PM

Breast Milk Sugars Give Infants a Protective Coat

Quote:

A large part of human milk cannot be digested by babies and seems to have a purpose quite different from infant nutrition — that of influencing the composition of the bacteria in the infant’s gut...

Many toxic bacteria and viruses bind to human cells by docking with the surface sugars. But they will bind to the complex sugars in milk instead...

let us see the genius of the strategy — mothers are recruiting another life-form to baby-sit their baby...

Such findings have made the three researchers keenly aware that every component of milk probably has a special role. “It’s all there for a purpose, though we’re still figuring out what that purpose is,” Dr. Mills said. “So for God’s sake, please breast-feed.”



Flint 08-08-2010 02:35 PM

So... what I might conclude is...

:::gears turning:::

:::thought slowly forming:::

That... the functions of our body, that millions of years of evolution have carefully fine-tuned... have lead to a situation where there are certain things that we SHOULD do, that would be... GOOD for us? One might say, "healthy" decisions?

:::SCOFF::: That's not what TV commercials tell me, so that can't be true.

Spexxvet 08-09-2010 01:41 PM

Quote:

Waitress (to Jordan): I haven’t seen you in a while.
Elliot (to waitress): Oh, she just had a baby.
Waitress: Well then, how can you be drinking? Aren’t you breast-feeding?
Jordan: I haven’t decided. Were you breast-fed?
Waitress: Of course I was.
Jordan: That is so interesting. ‘Cuz you’re a slaggy buttinski who ended up becoming a waitress for a living. Maybe breast feeding isn’t the answer…


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