More rains comin'.

Groovy, Broome County only lost 800 homes in the last one...

Naw. You guys just get fires...:flamer:
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easily solved by keeping ridiculous amounts of vegetation away from your property.

Found flood stage charts for upriver. The triangles are what are average water flows. After what appears to be a large 1st of June rain, the rivers were just slightly above average - suggesting no ground water saturation at least one week before. Another source (that I cannot find) reports average cubic feet per second for Jun to be about 1300 for Jun which puts water before the rains at average.

Again, the point is that this flooding should not have been as bad as the news wanted it to be. And where flooding was a problem, those areas better get cracking at opening up the flood plain - moving people like Clinton did for Grafton IL.

You still have over 100 degree days, right?

I'll take my chances with the water.

but it's a dry heat...

i played 90 minutes of soccer outside tonight. i couldn't do that in illinois humidity when it was 90.

A "dry heat", a light heat, a dark heat...

I was on the phone with tech support once, the lady was based in Phoenix, and I complained that it was freakin' 90 plus degrees outside (the gates of hell for my Seattle body thermostat). She chuckled and said "Honey, it hasn't been under 100 degrees for 30 DAYS". I quit complaining and crossed Arizona off my lifetime must-see list. No thanks.

Bruce sent me a bunch of these charts, very interesting stuff. What I was thinking of though would be water levels from 1935 and 1972 but I'm guessing the record is fragmented.

Water resources

New York State....hover over the dots (all colors) to find out where it is.

For the Chenango River at Greene, this station has only stream height (water level) but check the "Available data for this site" menu for historical data and other information.

For the Susquehanna River at Conklin, there is stream height and discharge as well as "Available Data" menu.

Don't forget the Susquehanna starts in NY state, swings through northeast PA, back into NY, then south the full height of PA into MD. So, you'll have to check the PA map also to see where the bulk of the water entered the Susquehanna before in got to Binghamton.
The Chenango dumps into the Susquehanna in Binghamton so the NY map would show some of the large feeder streams of the Chenango.

Have fun. :D

[whine]but I have work to do[/whine]

That's why I would never give you an order...only opportunity.:lol:

You ain't lyin', here inland it is nasty with no sea breeze.:(

This mornings paper has the so-called flood plains mapped. People are asking the right questions, a new map is needed. An example is Lourdes Hospital which was supposed to be on the high end of the 500 year flood plain and was inundated. Lots of homes on morgages were above the known flood plain and were not required to have flood insurance. Bottom line, everyone was working with bad information.

All I can say for sure is that the elevation listed on Google for my house is between 180 and 190 feet above sea level. The bottom of my street is about 160 feet. There is almost 0 percent chance of any amount of standing water flooding my house.

There is, however, an issue with runoff and drainage. When they built my development, they were pretty careful with landscaping design. Unfortunately, they began building above me and I got a lesson in design when they didn't put up a silt fence before they started and a severe rain took off the few inches of the already thin topsoil off of the hill in my backyard.

The runoff is designed to run away from my house and in the alley between my house and my neighbors to the street. The winter before last, due to a design flaw, it pooled near my back steps and caused problems. The builder had to excavate and redesign the terrain to build up the embankment between the alley and my house.

That being said, everything is good now and I sit well above sea level, away or above any creeks which can flood, tucked in a slight valley to discourage tornadoes and hurricanes, and in one of the more geographically dead states on the east coast.

Except for the fact that I am not too far from chemical plants, I have a pretty safe environment. The biggest disaster I have to worry about is my homeowners association.

Did you have to get approval for your red,white & blue mailbox?

About 6 months after I bought my house the Army Corps of Engineers decided I'm on a 100 year flood plain. :smack:

This thread is kind of old news now, but I'm going to add to it anyway. I've been away for two weeks or so on vacation, and just recently was able to organize some of my pictures. I went to NE Pennsylvania, not so far from Scranton, where my family has a cottage on a lake.

This first group of pictures was taken by my Dad on I-81 at Great Bend, PA. This was during the height of the flooding. They temporarily closed the highway so a Coast Guard rescue helicopter could use it for landings while doing rescue work. He was lucky enough to be just a few cars back from the action.

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This is the lake where we have a cottage. It was about 4 feet higher than normal, which is pretty impressive considering how small the valley is that drains into it.

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These two bridges are (were) in Creamton, PA, a small "village" near Honesdale PA. It's really just a handful of houses at a crossroads. This is the East Branch of the Lackawaxen river. It's really just a stream. You can normally walk across it from rock to rock without getting your feet wet.

Here's the first bridge:

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This second bridge almost had a fatality. The man who was driving this pickup was able to get out of his truck before it got pinned under the guardrail and pole. He was found downstream with most of his clothes torn off, and it took half a dozen people to pull him out, he was so tangled up in debris. His obesity didn't help either. He was very bruised, but otherwise OK.

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Good photos. I surveyed a parcel across from Smokin' Joes a few years ago. I don't remember doing any flood elevations but they probably already existed.

woah ,,,:eek:

It's interesting to see a Coast Guard helicopter working in the Appalachian Mountains.

While on the job yesterday( i work for an electric utility company), I drove through The "Island" section in Trenton, NJ. It is kind of eerie to see the Fema folks all set up and the piles of now useless washer/dryer/hot waterheaters amassed at the curbs........I really need to start carrying my camera.

On a side note, very interesting pics Glatt. Thanks for sharing!

We prefer Endless Mountains. ;)