I think the disorderly conduct kind of puts the screws to her.

Yep. Cops are willing to look the other way a lot of the time if you aren't causing a problem. Don't attract attention unless you know you are kosher.

FIFY.

To be fair, sometimes cops add on other things to justify wonky citations.

Duh.

fuuuck. just.. wtf.

people, I tell ya.

I've been involved with enough churches that are stretched so thin and trying to do so much that I can totally see how this happened. Many churches are dying in this country, but still feel like they are supposed to do all the stuff that they always did. You have the same small number of active members who are willing to help out on something, but when the reality of making 200 sandwiches sinks in and passing the plate yet again to pay for them, and then the people who show up don't even say thank you and expect that you serve them and give them more. The volunteers are human and are like "fuck this shit."

You need a better spokesperson though to talk to the press and explain that it's a resource issue. The church doesn't have the resources to continue doing this, but is going to continue to collect food to pass along to the food bank. The pastor was probably on sabbatical, and Alrene, who normally leads these things was getting her foot amputated because the diabetes was progressing. She would have known what to say.

[And re-reading the article, I was clearly wrong about the pastor being away, since she is quoted at the start of the article. but the quote at the end of the article is somebody who wasn't even there. It was just some weigh in quote the reporter used to get the story to go in the direction they wanted.]

A lot of the people who go to church today are not there to worship God, it's become a social occasion, a place to see and be seen.

But it was always that way, the church(s) was the center of social life, and attending Sunday was the dues.

That wouldn't have been better wording, it would have been a completely different reason than the one the pastor gave. I'm all for giving the benefit of the doubt, but in this case you would have to do so by including facts not present in the article.


The pastor herself said:
It was to prevent poor people from hanging out near the church
The congregation didn't like that
Their church is not oriented towards social service

Another "benefit of the doubt" can be applied to the "made the decision ... after receiving an email"; Just because it was "after" doesn't mean "because", and we don't know the context in which the existence of the email was revealed to the reporter.

But the email is a pretty bog-standard "poor people are lazy moochers". Whether it says anything about the Winnipeg church or not, it doesn't reflect well on the one in Victoria.

St Louis news headline...
"St. Louis Zoo voted 'Nation's Best Zoo"

But when you get into the story it was voted in a reader's poll, "The best free attraction"
Yes there's a difference.

Not the churches I attended.

The journalist's headline and opening sentence are not at all what the church representatives said. They made a distinction between people they could help, and people who needed more than food. They used the phrase "street people," which was not the greatest euphemism, but to me that says the mentally ill, the drug addicts, the people who start yelling when you don't give them a second sandwich because then someone else won't get one. Poverty comes with social ills, and this little church was naive about that when they started the program. Let's ask UT if he'd like to start a free food stand outside the pawn shop, eh?

You're contemporary, I'm talking about from 1566 to WW II, before Radio, before TV, Before motion pictures reached the sticks. There were two forms of entertainment, bars and churches. Married men could sometimes do both, but usually had to do the bar on the sly. What do you think your folks and grandfolks did in their courting days? Out in the sparsely settled areas the church is still a social center.

They attended square dances. That's how mine met.:jig:

I read about an exhibit at some early zoo where they put too many monkeys on an "island" and they killed each other. They are very territorial.


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This is Sparta...

Newspapers used to be so much more fun...

Found a cool background article on that case.

Interesting.

I remember this weekend very well. Friday evening two classmates and myself were driving from school in Boston to my folks for the weekend. We heard on the radio about the Alaska quake which concerned me because of family in Anchorage. Then over the weekend we had access to TV, which was a treat we didn't have in the dorm, and saw bits about the Mods and Rockers fighting in England. But it wasn't until I saw the pictures in Life Magazine I realized the scope of this battle.

"The entire population of Seaside is driven mad trying to fold/unfold beach chairs. Pandemonium erupts. Some flee. Some attack fellow beach goers. Beach chairs attack indiscriminately. Chaos ensues."

I, on the other hand, learned about it from Quadrophenia.

I saw Quadrophenia live, up close and in person. It sucked. Not the Who's fault, but the guy in charge setting up the sound system in the Spectrum, Brownie. I told him to his face one night when he was here. He was pissed but he needed me because more bands were coming including what would be his big customer Aerosmith.

Awesome.

I guess it's an ad but a damn clever one.

That's deep.

Fascinating.

Very bizarre...

Yeah, good move...

Uh-huh, yeah, sure, done that lots of times, no telling how many women's lives I've saved that way...:rolleyes:

That's fish tacos on the beach right there!

Notice that, at no time, did the victim's friends say anything like "The doctor says you gonna die.":eaty:

And they took turns.:jig:

well, maybe just a *little*.

But they nobly put their personal feelings aside to help their friend. Despite there being no venom, it still took her mind off the vicious attack. True friends.

Heh..."Well, maybe just this once."

Made me think of a Kid Rock lyric, from 'Rock 'n' Roll':

♪ ♫Youve never done this before♪ ♫
♪ ♫But you feel like tryin♪ ♫
♪ ♫Ive done this plenty of times♪ ♫
♪ ♫And I know your lyin♪ ♫

Before the internet...

That's really sweet

Psssst, wanna buy a house... delivered. ;)

In Ireland...

Never hurts to ask...

I love shit like that.

I mean, you know, when it happens to other people.

When does the riot start?

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:lol2:

Don't spare the rod on him...

What a prick.

"For himself and a friend"...

German newspaper prints two double pages of Christmas wrapping paper.

That's kinda cool.

I've used the comics section before, when I had one more gift to wrap.

Genius

Nice!

Must have been the alcohol...

Alcohol?? Have you never heard an accordion in an enclosed space????

It is said that a gentleman is a man who can play the accordion, but doesn't.
Evidently the accused was not a gentleman. :eek:

Do you know the difference between an accordion and a trampoline?




























You take your boots off to jump on a trampoline.

I like this thread's opinion of accordions.

And I really like V's joke.

Back in the 1980s in the Bay Area, there was a bus ad campaign paid for by KFOG radio (classic rock). One of the bus banners read, "Use an accordion. Go to jail."

:D

Such a bargain...

No shit.