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xoxoxoBruce 04-24-2017 09:29 PM

Damn, where did that iceberg come from?

Gravdigr 06-27-2017 11:10 AM

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At a (way out in the) country volunteer fire station playground:

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Gravdigr 08-10-2017 03:57 PM

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Stern of the USS John Hancock:

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Gravdigr 11-08-2017 12:32 PM

Backyard security video shows massive ship run aground in NC and keep going

xoxoxoBruce 11-08-2017 12:43 PM

The helmsman, was he texting or watching porn? :haha:

Gravdigr 11-08-2017 01:00 PM

If he's the one who spun that big fucker around, I'd he was on the job.

It prolly slewed around on its own, though.

xoxoxoBruce 11-08-2017 11:23 PM

Ya think he was hooning? :haha:

Gravdigr 11-09-2017 02:13 PM

Biggest hoonigan, evar.

Pamela 11-11-2017 03:55 PM

Damn newfangled driverless container ships. Next thing you know, they will let cars have no drivers!

Ran over the buoy and everything....

xoxoxoBruce 12-11-2017 03:37 PM

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Mighty MO...

Gravdigr 12-12-2017 02:59 PM

Meh, just shoot it out.

xoxoxoBruce 12-30-2017 10:43 AM

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Well, that left a mark...

xoxoxoBruce 12-30-2017 04:59 PM

Correction, it was a Mitsubishi Ki-51 "Sonia" that hit the HMS Sussex.

Carruthers 12-30-2017 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce (Post 1001181)
Well, that left a mark...

Looks like one of my landings but at least I was able to use the aircraft again. :blush:

Carruthers 12-31-2017 04:54 AM

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Aboard cruiser HMS Sussex (1945)

This recollection is from:

George Coyne of Lightwater, Surrey.

In 1945 I was serving in cruiser HMS Sussex. My ship was part of a task force (Operation Livery) in action at Phuket Island in what is now Thailand.
The Japs attacked us with suicide planes, one of which hit us and another struck and sank HMS Vestal.
She was a minesweeper and was Camberley's adopted warship.
She was the last British warship to be sunk during WW2.
There's some rather onerous conditions attached to reproducing the full text, hence the somewhat brief extract above.

WW2 People's War for the full article.

xoxoxoBruce 12-31-2017 09:24 AM

Here's a good illustration of the Sussex and the plane.

Carruthers 12-31-2017 09:43 AM

Thank you, sir!

Some more info has emerged:

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26 Jul 1945

Her Task Force was attacked by 2 "Val" suicides (Mitsubishi type 99 dive-bombers): one was shot down by escort carrier Ameer and the second by Sussex.
However, this latter one bounced on the surface of the sea and impacted the cruiser's hull above the waterline, causing a 2 metre dent.
Later in the same day Sussex downed another aircraft.
Link

There is no mention of an explosion so effective anti-aircraft fire and a large slice of good luck seem to have saved the day.

Gravdigr 12-31-2017 10:22 AM

Nothing like a fat slice of luck.

With sprinkles.

xoxoxoBruce 12-31-2017 11:04 AM

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...bounced on the surface of the sea...
Ahh, good find, that explains a lot. :thumb:

xoxoxoBruce 01-18-2018 09:35 PM

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Neighborhood bully and his gang...

Gravdigr 01-22-2018 01:41 PM

Dat be da old and busted...

Gravdigr 01-22-2018 01:44 PM

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Dis be da new hotness:

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You see this coming atcha, you're gonna have a bad time.

:devil:

xoxoxoBruce 01-23-2018 01:38 AM

When the Wasp & Co hove into view, Tojo shook.
When the those new kids come around Kim Fatty the Third, ain't scairt. :headshake

Gravdigr 01-23-2018 02:30 AM

Only 'cuz he's bug nuts.

xoxoxoBruce 01-23-2018 10:13 AM

Well yeah, but that doesn't help. People with delusions of invincibility are the most dangerous.
If Kim Fatty the Third or Tiny Hands starts shit, and are squashed like a bug 35 seconds later, that doesn't necessarily stop the shit he started. Think of the military like a huge boulder on the side of a hill with one little chock to keep it there. Some asshole pulls that chock and stopping that boulder once it's in motion is a Herculean task.

Happy Monkey 01-23-2018 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce (Post 1002708)
When the Wasp & Co hove into view, Tojo shook.

Tojo wasn't the Emperor.

DanaC 01-23-2018 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce (Post 1002726)
Think of the military like a huge boulder on the side of a hill with one little chock to keep it there. Some asshole pulls that chock and stopping that boulder once it's in motion is a Herculean task.

Awesome metaphor dude.

Gravdigr 01-23-2018 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce (Post 1002708)
When the those new kids come around Kim Fatty the Third, ain't scairt. :headshake

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Originally Posted by Gravdigr (Post 1002717)
Only 'cuz he's bug nuts.

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Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce (Post 1002726)
Well yeah, but that doesn't help. People with delusions of invincibility are the most dangerous.

You're disagreeing with someone agreeing with you.

I'm just saying the only reason he "ain't scairt" is "'cuz he's bug nuts". Any sane person would be scairt.

xoxoxoBruce 01-23-2018 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Happy Monkey (Post 1002727)
Tojo wasn't the Emperor.

Who said he was?

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Originally Posted by Gravdigr (Post 1002739)
You're disagreeing with someone agreeing with you.

I'm just saying the only reason he "ain't scairt" is "'cuz he's bug nuts". Any sane person would be scairt.

I'm not disagreeing, I'm reiterating that makes him worse.

Happy Monkey 01-24-2018 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce (Post 1002750)
Who said he was?

He can crap his pants all he wants; the Emperor thinks things are great.

Similar to Kim. I expect his generals know that a war would be a disaster for them, but who's going to tell him?

xoxoxoBruce 01-24-2018 10:47 AM

But Tojo was running the government and the war, Hirohito was a mushroom, kept in the dark and fed shit.

Gravdigr 02-13-2018 03:14 PM

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Revealed: Viet Cong Commandos Sank a Navy Aircraft Carrier

Attack on the USNS Card

Wait, whut? Charlie sunk a carrier?:eek:

USS Card

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Well, helicopter transport.;)

xoxoxoBruce 02-13-2018 03:43 PM

Yeah but it was a sneak attack...

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On 2 May 1964, while moored dockside in Saigon, a North Vietnamese frogman, Lam Son Nao, planted an explosive charge that blew a hole in the hull, killing five crewmen. (It should be noted that this event was prior to the Gulf of Tonkin Incident which led to the escalation of American involvement in Vietnam.)

xoxoxoBruce 03-21-2018 11:00 PM

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USS Juneau hull was found by Paul Allen's team on St Patrick's Day, 2.6 miles below the surface of the Pacific, near Guadalcanal.
Sunk by two Jap torpedos in 1943, the Juneau is most noted for the five Sullivan brothers being among the 700 crew.

Carruthers 03-22-2018 10:24 AM

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Another one of Mr Allen's discoveries.

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USS Lexington: aircraft carrier scuttled in 1942 is finally found

Wreck from second world war’s Battle of the Coral Sea is located off eastern coast of Australia by search team led by Microsoft co-founder Paul Allen


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Wreckage from the USS Lexington, an aircraft carrier that sank during the second world war, has been found in the Coral Sea by a search team led by the Microsoft co-founder Paul Allen.

The wreckage was found on Sunday by the team’s research vessel, the R/V Petrel, about 3,000m (two miles) below the surface and more than 500 miles (800km) off the eastern coast of Australia.

The team released pictures and video of the wreckage of the Lexington – one of the first ever US aircraft carriers – and some of the planes that went down with it.

Remarkably preserved aircraft could be seen on the seabed bearing the five-pointed star insignia of the US navy on their wings and fuselage.

On one aircraft an emblem of the cartoon character Felix the Cat can be seen along with four miniature Japanese flags presumably depicting “kills”.

The search team also released pictures and video of parts of the ship, including a nameplate and anti-aircraft guns covered in decades of slime.

The Lexington and another carrier, the USS Yorktown, fought against three Japanese aircraft carriers from 4 to 8 May 1942 in the Battle of the Coral Sea, the first ever between carriers.
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The badly damaged Lexington, nicknamed “Lady Lex”, was deliberately sunk by another US warship at the conclusion of the battle.
More than 200 members of the crew died in the battle but most were rescued by other US vessels before the Lexington was scuttled.

Admiral Harry Harris, who heads up the US military’s Pacific Command (Pacom) – and whose father was one of the sailors evacuated – paid tribute to the successful research effort.
“As the son of a survivor of the USS Lexington, I offer my congratulations to Paul Allen and the expedition crew of Research Vessel (R/V) Petrel for locating the ‘Lady Lex’, sunk nearly 76 years ago at the Battle of Coral Sea. We honor the valor and sacrifice of the ‘Lady Lex’s’ Sailors – and all those Americans who fought in World War II – by continuing to secure the freedoms they won for all of us.”

The Lexington was carrying 35 aircraft when it went down. The search team said that 11 planes had been found including Douglas TBD-1 Devastators, Douglas SBD-3 Dauntlesses and Grumman F4F-3 Wildcats.

Search teams led by Allen have discovered the wreckage of a number of historic warships including the USS Indianapolis, a US heavy cruiser that sank in the Philippine Sea in July 1945 after being torpedoed by a Japanese submarine.

The Guardian


Smithsonian

glatt 03-22-2018 11:19 AM

He's on a roll this month.

BigV 03-22-2018 12:32 PM

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200 died in the battle but most were rescued before the ship was scuttled
???

some were not rescued before scuttling? I think and hope that's merely an awkwardly constructed sentence

xoxoxoBruce 03-22-2018 03:26 PM

It was scuttled because of damage sustained during the battle in which 200 were killed.

Gravdigr 06-04-2018 03:25 PM


fargon 06-04-2018 03:47 PM

Neat.

Gravdigr 06-04-2018 04:10 PM

When the water first pours in the windows, and when the deck is first awash...Those moments make my blood pressure go up a tick, or two.

Gravdigr 06-16-2018 03:05 PM



Better bigger.

xoxoxoBruce 09-27-2018 10:55 PM

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There's carriers and there's carriers...

Gravdigr 09-29-2018 03:12 PM

Ain't it cute?

Bless their hearts.

Carruthers 09-29-2018 03:49 PM

Nobody said it would be plane sailing.

xoxoxoBruce 09-29-2018 04:08 PM

They started out with two french jump jets and some helicopters, but couldn't afford the upkeep.

Gravdigr 10-01-2018 02:54 PM

...and the jump jets kept flying backward.

Carruthers 10-08-2018 02:21 PM

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I saw this picture in a UK newspaper but with little detail of the circumstances surrounding the collision.

My first thought was how did the ferry manage to ram the container vessel amidships in broad daylight, assuming that the photo was taken soon after the collision.

I did a bit of digging and found this from the WSJ:

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French maritime officials said the Tunisia registered ferry Ulysse carrying trucks, rammed on Sunday the Cyprus registered CSL Virginia, which was anchored around 15 miles off the Corsican coast.
The collision smashed a hole in the hull of one of the ships, causing the fuel leak. There were no injuries.
Anchored? How on Earth....

WSJ Link

Happy Monkey 10-08-2018 02:42 PM

Reference points are probably misleading, even when they exist, at sea. Sort of like how a plane landing can seem to be hovering in place when seen from a car moving in just the right way. The ferry may have assumed the Virginia was moving perpendicular to their course, and would be out of the way by the time they got there.


Or they may have just fallen asleep at the wheel.

Carruthers 10-09-2018 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Happy Monkey (Post 1016398)
Reference points are probably misleading, even when they exist, at sea. Sort of like how a plane landing can seem to be hovering in place when seen from a car moving in just the right way.
The ferry may have assumed the Virginia was moving perpendicular to their course, and would be out of the way by the time they got there.

Thanks for your take on that, I see what you mean.

xoxoxoBruce 10-10-2018 03:47 PM

Autopilot?

Flint 10-10-2018 04:26 PM

Road rage.

Diaphone Jim 10-11-2018 03:15 PM

The ferry's bow is about half-way through the container ship and was still there three days later acting as a plug to keep the latter from sinking.
Trucks and passengers on board the Ulysse, captain likely in the brig.
T-bone!

Gravdigr 10-11-2018 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Diaphone Jim (Post 1016587)
T-bone!

That's his new nickname.

xoxoxoBruce 10-11-2018 09:31 PM

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German ship...

Gravdigr 10-12-2018 02:25 PM

...there's a hole, there's a hole, there's a hole in the ship on the top of the sea.

fargon 10-12-2018 04:44 PM

She looks a lot like a modern High Speed Catamaran.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SMS_Vulkan
High speed catamaran
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-speed_craft
Maybe that's why she was so fast 12 Knots when 10 knots was considered fast for a ship of that size.

BigV 10-12-2018 09:12 PM

or floating dry dock

Carruthers 10-13-2018 02:50 PM

Further to my post #108...



Judging by the starboard anchor chain passing over the port side of the bulbous prow, the container ship has rotated somewhat in the collision.

I know little of maritime law, but I thought that there was a requirement to maintain a lookout at all times. Not that I'm suggesting negligence, you understand.

Anyway, there's likely to be a delay in collecting the next consignment of half a million Chinese plastic dog turds. (Guaranteed to break the ice at parties).

xoxoxoBruce 10-13-2018 03:20 PM

Here it is.

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Position Received: 1 minute ago (2018-10-13 20:12 (UTC))
Vessel's Local Time: 2018-10-13 21:12 (UTC +1)
Area: WMED - Ligurean Sea
Latitude / Longitude: 43.2514° / 9.4762°
Status: At Anchor
Speed/Course: 0.0kn / -



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