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FloridaDragon 02-01-2006 10:46 PM

I did not watch the speech either as I can't stomach politicians in general. However I do support strong borders and both the Mexican and Canadian borders are unacceptably open in my opinion. There are too many people in this world that want all of us dead for the simple fact that we don't align with their god or that we have something they want or resent. There is no way to change this ... you change our policies to please one group and you alienate a different group.

I fully support isolationism at this point. Turn off all the foreign aid taps and take care of our own and do our best to protect the people in this country. This would make those countries that don't want us there happy and piss off those that do want us there (again, make one set happy, piss off an other)

dov 02-02-2006 12:12 AM

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Originally Posted by FloridaDragon
I did not watch the speech either as I can't stomach politicians in general. However I do support strong borders and both the Mexican and Canadian borders are unacceptably open in my opinion. There are too many people in this world that want all of us dead for the simple fact that we don't align with their god or that we have something they want or resent. There is no way to change this ... you change our policies to please one group and you alienate a different group.

I fully support isolationism at this point. Turn off all the foreign aid taps and take care of our own and do our best to protect the people in this country. This would make those countries that don't want us there happy and piss off those that do want us there (again, make one set happy, piss off an other)

Its ok, go ahead and isolate. China is waiting in the wings and it would be their pleasure in replacing you for our two-way trade in goods and services between Canada and the U.S. which was in 2004 worth over US$441 billion. (China has better credit, net 30)


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Canada is the United States' largest supplier of crude oil and refined products, natural gas, electricity and uranium.

In 2004, Canada's energy exports to the U.S. were valued at around $65 billion.

Canada supplies 88 percent of U.S. natural gas imports and 17 percent of U.S. imports of crude and refined oil products - more than any foreign supplier at over 2.1 million barrels a day.
isolate

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India has jumped into the intense competition for Canadian oil sands assets with plans to invest $1 billion over the next 12 months, a top Indian energy official said on Tuesday.

India, which has mounted a high-profile hunt for foreign reserves to help power its growing economy, is not worried its plans will put it head-to-head with longtime rival China in bidding for Canadian oil sands assets.

Chinese firms have been enthusiastic investors in northeastern Alberta's vast oil sands resources over the past year, taking stakes in a handful of development projects and a pipeline proposal.As many as four Indian companies are looking to invest in in the region.

Besides recent interest among Chinese firms, the region has attracted French oil major Total SA.
isolate

Canada has larger oil reserves than Saudi Arabia.

Please build a wall along our border of 5,526 miles of land, which separates us.

As long as it keeps you out of my country and from invading us and stealing our oil.

Aliantha 02-02-2006 12:16 AM

Would you consider for a moment that it's possible your paranoia is getting the better of you dov?

dov 02-02-2006 12:23 AM

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Would you consider for a moment that it's possible your paranoia is getting the better of you dov?

My paranoia is my best friend. Its kept me alive this long and loves partying with me.

Aliantha 02-02-2006 12:27 AM

I had a friend like that once. Not all friends are good friends. Not all friends are good for the soul or the body.

Incidently, Australia has to be one of the most isolated countries in the world but that hasn't stopped us from having issues with illegal imigrants or terrorism or any of the other things discussed on this thread due to shared borders.

Aliantha 02-02-2006 12:29 AM

'due to' probably should have been; being attributed to.

FloridaDragon 02-02-2006 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by dov
As long as it keeps you out of my country and from invading us and stealing our oil.

Trust me, you and Canada have nothing I want.

dov 02-02-2006 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by FloridaDragon
Trust me, you and Canada have nothing I want.

Tell me that when you run out of gas.

We are your number one oil supplier and there is a rumour the Saudi reserves are eighty percent depleted.

Your plan to rip off Iraqi’s oil fucked up.

China has signed with both Mexico and Venezuela, for oil, (and us).

I recommend you learn how to ride a horse to work.

We may talk about water another time.

FloridaDragon 02-02-2006 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by dov
Tell me that when you run out of gas.

We are your number one oil supplier and there is a rumour the Saudi reserves are eighty percent depleted.

Your plan to rip off Iraqi’s oil fucked up.

China has signed with both Mexico and Venezuela, for oil, (and us).

I recommend you learn how to ride a horse to work.

We may talk about water another time.

you are one deluded and confused individual ... good luck with that.

dov 02-03-2006 12:03 AM

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Originally Posted by FloridaDragon
you are one deluded and confused individual.

I am one hundred percent correct.

I could shove a thousand references that Canada is America’s leading supplier of imported oil, natural gas, uranium, and electricity, up your nose and you wouldn’t smell a thing. You would most definitely reply with something insightful and witty such as, you are one deluded and confused individual.

Here is a reference, I have one hundred more, but you have proven to me that even the time I am spending presently showing you facts, is useless. I have seen you on every Board I have ever visited, your predictable and a dime a dozen.

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Canada is America’s leading supplier of imported oil, natural gas, uranium, and electricity.

The United States imports more petroleum products from Canada than from any other country--including 1.6 million barrels of crude oil per day, which is around 15 percent of our oil imports.

Net imports of natural gas from Canada into the United States represent about 16 percent of U.S. natural gas demand.

Canada also supplies electricity to over 30 U.S. states. Our cross-border electricity trade flows in both directions, and our systems are highly integrated

Http://www.energy.gov/news/1947.htm
If Canada gave a shit, we may supply you with the mortar for your wall, but we do not, so find your own mortar.

American Freemasons are drooling

xoxoxoBruce 02-03-2006 12:03 PM

All your base belong to US. :p

dov 02-03-2006 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce
All your base belong to US.

What language is that?

glatt 02-03-2006 02:12 PM

Your confusion is understandable. Bruce was close, but he overlooked some simple grammar. It's "All your base are belong to US."

FloridaDragon 02-03-2006 05:15 PM

Why are any of us bothering to reply to this person? They post a question then jump on any one who doesn't agree with their point of view. So you think Canada is a great super power ... as I said before, "good luck with that". If we had any chance that Canada could actually safe guard it's own border, then we wouldn't need a border between us ... but you can't!

And you can reply with whatever inane or insane comment (that I know you will, go head, prove me right) as I will not be returning to this thread nor to any thread you start again ...

dov 02-03-2006 05:57 PM

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I will not be returning to this thread nor to any thread you start again ...

I didn't mean to scare you away.

"All your base are belong to US." Is that some type of code?

We have no reason to isolate. We are not worried that terrorists will enter Canada through the States. We do not need a wall. We are a peace loving country, and the world knows we will always be anywhere needed in the name of peace. Occasionally we go after the bad guys.

BTW, you need us, we do not need you. You are our only liability.


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Large numbers of new Canadian soldiers have begun arriving in perilous southern Afghanistan, where they will be deployed in the Taliban stronghold of Kandahar.

The Canadian troops are set to take over control of the coalition operations in the troubled province from the United States. "We're going to be out hunting down the last of the Taliban.” Kandahar
They will also be looking for OBL, remember OBL? OBL who was responsible for 9/11, contrary to the popular belief that Saddam was responsible.


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