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xoxoxoBruce 06-26-2005 10:31 AM

Sorry Griff but it seems several of them have failed in Lancaster County recently. If they can't do it there, it's a tough row to hoe. :(

Griff 06-26-2005 11:02 AM

There is a huge investment for animal handling and fencing. The land in Lancaster is too valuable for this kind of grazing as well. NEPA hill country actually has an advantage there, but it really is just a pipe dream. I ought to just put on some beefers.

LabRat 06-27-2005 09:10 AM

Here I can literally go out to a farm, pick an animal out, and within a couple weeks it can be on my grill. After working in the grocery business, and hearing about all of the crappy things that can go on in processing plants etc. we decided that this was the best way for us to continue eating beef (and pork) and not have to worry about all this. Plus, I swear to g*d the meat is SOOOOOOOOOO much better, probably because it's so fresh, and I know our cow was only grain/grass fed. (know the farmer) I would recommend looking into this if you don't want to give up meat, but worrying about what the hell is in it isn't worth the stress.

Lunaephiliac 06-27-2005 03:59 PM

Sorry for being uninformed, but what happens if you do accidentally eat diseased beef? What are the symptoms, and what is the disease called?

glatt 06-27-2005 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Lunaephiliac
Sorry for being uninformed, but what happens if you do accidentally eat diseased beef? What are the symptoms, and what is the disease called?

http://www.ninds.nih.gov/disorders/c...d.htm#24103058

warch 06-27-2005 05:05 PM

Dear deer hunters, What is the connection to the deer brain wasting disease? I remember hearing about that...

jinx 06-27-2005 05:44 PM

It's not a connection so much as "evidence" in a conspiracy theory.

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The anecdotes are ever-flowing, and all point to a hypothesis based upon some environmental causal factor that falls a long way short of the current government's nightmare infectious "ingestion" scenario. If the spongiform agent is as infectious as the authorities would have us believe, why has chronic wasting disease (the BSE equivalent in deer) remained uniquely confined to a small cluster zone in the Rocky Mountains for thirty years now, without spreading across to the neighboring deer herds roaming the rest of the Rockies? Why has no spongiform developed in the various predators of those affected deer?

Happy Monkey 06-27-2005 09:58 PM

Isn't chronic wasting all over the midwest by now? That's where my family is, and they're dealing with it.

busterb 06-27-2005 10:31 PM

I'm going to take a small poke at Labrat about fresh meat. If you take a fresh killed steer, cow or what ever, and cook it. You can't chew the damn thing, But if you can find some small family place that kills, and hangs. For I've heard up to 30 days at 30 degrees. Anyway I can't even buy ground chuck :smack:

xoxoxoBruce 06-27-2005 11:12 PM

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Originally Posted by glatt

From that link;
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Other TSEs are found in specific kinds of animals. These include bovine spongiform encephalopathy (BSE), which is found in cows and is often referred to as “mad cow” disease; scrapie, which affects sheep and goats; mink encephalopathy; and feline encephalopathy. Similar diseases have occurred in elk, deer, and exotic zoo animals.
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The appearance of the new variant of CJD (nv-CJD or v-CJD) in several younger than average people in Great Britain and France has led to concern that BSE may be transmitted to humans through consumption of contaminated beef. Although laboratory tests have shown a strong similarity between the prions causing BSE and v-CJD, there is no direct proof to support this theory.

Carbonated_Brains 06-28-2005 12:35 PM

Which is why everybody should chill the fuck out.

LabRat 06-28-2005 12:44 PM

Um, I said within a couple weeks, like, it hangs for awhile, then it's processed and frozen, I go pick it up and yum.

busterb 06-28-2005 04:58 PM

My bad. :smack:


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