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Carbonated_Brains 01-03-2005 08:52 PM

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Better resonate one's own personality: good or bad, weak or strong!

What the hell does that mean?

wolf 01-04-2005 01:02 AM

I knew sycamore was just joshin'! There's no way he could be that incoherent.

I've seen the man drunk.

He just can't do it.

melidasaur 01-04-2005 11:41 AM

The devil is Ned Flanders....

Brown Thrasher 02-02-2005 03:20 PM

Let us confess it: evil strides the world." Voltaire

"The world has always been ruled by Lucifer. The world is evil call his name, my love. Call the name of lucifer." Ritual of Evil"

If religion is a delusion due to wishes (Freud) Or bad society(marx) can't the same be said for atheism"?

Some may say the symbolism of christianity is a wonderful thing. However, trying to make it a philosophical system seems to me absurd.

Brown Thrasher 02-03-2005 09:52 PM

I know this is off the subject, but I like the word resident denizin. The definition of a denizon and I am paraprasing; is one who inhabits a certain location. Therfore, I am a denizon of the philosophy site, not only for the occasionally intellectual converasations but also because I find more humor and arrogance than on any other site.

richlevy 02-03-2005 10:22 PM

You probably mean denizen. I think 'converasations' is actually a pretty creative variation. I think I have done this before when I was choosing between two words and ended up combining them.

OnyxCougar 03-01-2005 09:34 AM

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People sometimes say they can't believe in God because the world is so full of suffering. But I have found that people who say that are rarely involved in stopping the world's suffering. And the people who are involved in healing the world's suffering rarely talk like that. When your life revolves around yourself, the world is a cold, sterile, and unfriendly place. When your life revolves around giving to others, you feel how wonderful it is to be alive.
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jaguar 03-01-2005 10:27 AM

What a load of crap.

Troubleshooter 03-01-2005 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by jaguar
What a load of crap.

Seconded

Catwoman 03-01-2005 11:18 AM

3rd

OnyxCougar 03-01-2005 11:23 AM

It's great that you think it's a load of crap.

Mind saying WHY you think it's a load of crap?

Clodfobble 03-01-2005 12:01 PM

Or try this: remove the phrase "they can't believe in God because" and re-read it. I don't think it's crap.

mrnoodle 03-01-2005 12:09 PM

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When your life revolves around yourself, the world is a cold, sterile, and unfriendly place.
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What a load of crap.

Seconded

3rd
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Happy Monkey 03-01-2005 12:15 PM

It's not so much a load of crap as it is meaningless.

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Originally Posted by OnyxCougar
People sometimes say they can't believe in God because the world is so full of suffering. But I have found that people who say that are rarely involved in stopping the world's suffering.

People in general, atheist or no, are rarely involved in stopping the world's suffering.
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And the people who are involved in healing the world's suffering rarely talk like that.
People in general, world-suffering-healers or no, rarely talk like that. Most people are religious in some form or another.
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When your life revolves around yourself, the world is a cold, sterile, and unfriendly place. When your life revolves around giving to others, you feel how wonderful it is to be alive.
The only way the concluding sentences can be tied to the first two parts is to associate self involvement with atheism, and feeling wonderful to being religious, which look more like the opinion of an unimaginative religious person than a meaningful statement.

OnyxCougar 03-01-2005 12:29 PM

Actually, in my discussions with people who don't believe in God, say one of the reasons is that "There is so much death and suffering in the world, how could a loving God allow that?"

Many of those people do nothing to help the people in the world (or even their own community) that are homeless, starving, need clothes or even a kind word. Why?

Because if there is no God, then we're all here by random chance, decended from animals, nothing more than a higher functioning ape. Survival of the fittest, natural selection, only the strong survive. There are haves and have-nots. If you have not, and can't get, then you die. End of problem.


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